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Atlantic Coaster 33234 on the U4 today along with the Metrodecker. 32097 on the A17.
 
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Dennis Trident 33233 in Atlantic Coasters 'A5' livery was on the 16:25 231 service from Truro College to Falmouth Moor along with an '08' plate Uni E400 also on 231 duties
 
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Guys, GOOD NEWS!!

K615LAE, K626LAE, V832DYD, S825WYD, & 34198 Have all been bought by Dan Shears!

S825 is being preserved with V832 being the parts donor.

K626 has got K615 as a parts donor and is going back on the road when fully functional!

News says that V832's been used of all of its parts and has now been scrapped.

I do not know what'll happen now with S825WYD, but people are saying it's awaiting collection to be taken to winkleigh.

34198 is in his winkleigh collection (preserved)

In other news:

I do not know the situation with P430ORL or S554RWP, but I know that both have been bought by people and are just awaiting collection. One at penzance, the other at Taunton, though people are saying that S554RWP has already been collected.

P430ORL is still being used as a seat store bus, so idk what's up with that unless one of the depot staff bought it.

L311PWR is in Penzance with a withdrawn state I believe, most likely awaiting the one way trip to death road.
 
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Guys, GOOD NEWS!!

K615LAE, K626LAE, V832DYD, S825WYD, & 34198 Have all been bought by Dan Shears!

S825 is being preserved with V832 being the parts donor.

K626 has got K615 as a parts donor and is going back on the road when fully functional!

News says that V832's been used of all of its parts and has now been scrapped.

I do not know what'll happen now with S825WYD, but people are saying it's awaiting collection to be taken to winkleigh.

34198 is in his winkleigh collection (preserved)

In other news:

I do not know the situation with P430ORL or S554RWP, but I know that both have been bought by people and are just awaiting collection. One at penzance, the other at Taunton, though people are saying that S554RWP has already been collected.

P430ORL is still being used as a seat store bus, so idk what's up with that unless one of the depot staff bought it.

L311PWR is in Penzance with a withdrawn state I believe, most likely awaiting the one way trip to death road.



so good to hear about K626 LAE went on it when on old 300 service also 34200 lives on in my house in the shape of a model bus
 

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It’s a shame from an enthusiasts point of view that there won’t be any closed top Olympian’s in service this year but I’m glad that a few Leyland examples will still be around in preservation.

Hopefully 34137 will get to see some use on the open top circuit during the summer.
 

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A Falmouth Uni E400, 2 Falmouth Uni E400MMCs and a Tinner E400MMC were parked up at Digby & Sowton Station this afternoon on rail enhancement duties for the Exeter Chiefs home game at Sandy Park.
 

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Sadly the Winkleigh open day in October doesn’t seem to have taken place for the last couple of years. I used to enjoy having a look around there and seeing how the restoration projects were getting on.
 

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Sadly the Winkleigh open day in October doesn’t seem to have taken place for the last couple of years. I used to enjoy having a look around there and seeing how the restoration projects were getting on.

I was lucky enough to have a brief visit last summer. Dan posts regular photos to his Facebook of his latest acquisitions. L311PWR was towed in by Cooks in mid january.
Dans main Olympian project I believe to be L***cfj (816 possibly from memory) And an A reg Olympian with an appropriate advert for him on the back... cider!
 

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The 24 isn’t particularly narrow, western greyhound used normal Short darts. From a passenger point of view those jersey darts are awful. Nowhere to put my knees,

I guessed this might be the case. I shall be staying in Exeter briefly at the end of April and considered an Exeter - Plymouth - Wadebridge - Bude - Exeter daytrip, connections permitting. Now that you have warned me of their discomfort, I reckon I shall travel direct from Plymouth to Bude. Even this route is intriguing for having been First when I rode it in 2013 but Go-Ahead now. (I know about the Western Greyhound story and First selling Plymouth to Stagecoach, but do not know whether it was First or Stagecoach who withdrew from this route).
 

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First pulled out of the Bude to Plymouth 27th September 2009, when they cut back to callington albeit with a few extensions to launceston until 2014, which ceased on 1st June 2014.
Western Greyhound took over Plymouth to Bude from First as the 576 with brand new long Solos(WK59***). They later used Citaros as the route outgrew the Solos. PCB now normally use a mix of Citaros and Enviro 400s. Occasionally Enviro 200s get on the route as well but their fuel tanks are too small for a full day’s duty!

Bude to wadebridge is far too long on the discomfort of a Jersey Dart!
 

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First pulled out of the Bude to Plymouth 27th September 2009, when they cut back to callington albeit with a few extensions to launceston until 2014, which ceased on 1st June 2014.
Western Greyhound took over Plymouth to Bude from First as the 576 with brand new long Solos(WK59***). They later used Citaros as the route outgrew the Solos. PCB now normally use a mix of Citaros and Enviro 400s. Occasionally Enviro 200s get on the route as well but their fuel tanks are too small for a full day’s duty!

Bude to wadebridge is far too long on the discomfort of a Jersey Dart!

Of the vehicles you mention, I hope my 12 will be an Enviro 400. My real bright hope though is an ex-Brighton & Hove Trident!
 

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Of the vehicles you mention, I hope my 12 will be an Enviro 400. My real bright hope though is an ex-Brighton & Hove Trident!

Yesterday (Friday) I passed an ex Brighton & hove Trident on the route. They aren’t the norm anymore though.
 

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I have been wanting to do a day trip to Bude by bus for a while. I want to do the 96 between Wadebridge and Camelford and spend some time in Bude. Sadly this is extremely difficult by bus from west Cornwall so it is on hold for now.
 

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I have been wanting to do a day trip to Bude by bus for a while. I want to do the 96 between Wadebridge and Camelford and spend some time in Bude. Sadly this is extremely difficult by bus from west Cornwall so it is on hold for now.

In 2009 it took me the best part of all day to travel from Bude to Truro, staying as near to the coast for as long as possible.

I can see from pix on Flickr that at least the Tinner Enviro 400-MMCs have a different red-based moquette. This pic taken in the dark does illustrate it. https://www.flickr.com/photos/drake...R9Z-Rehw3y-Stvva8-RbP9zd-TEuXnn-YMnoWn-VHBGJS

I wonder approximately what percentage of First Kernow buses still have First corporate livery or moquette. I look forward to when these disappear from Cornwall altogether!
 

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In 2009 it took me the best part of all day to travel from Bude to Truro, staying as near to the coast for as long as possible.

I can see from pix on Flickr that at least the Tinner Enviro 400-MMCs have a different red-based moquette. This pic taken in the dark does illustrate it. https://www.flickr.com/photos/drake...R9Z-Rehw3y-Stvva8-RbP9zd-TEuXnn-YMnoWn-VHBGJS

I wonder approximately what percentage of First Kernow buses still have First corporate livery or moquette. I look forward to when these disappear from Cornwall altogether!

Think you may have a long wait if it’s the moquette that you hope will disappear altogether. I suspect that there’ll always be the requirement to cascade older deckers for schools from across the group.
 

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Dart 42876 on service T2 on Saturday. The Optare Metrodecker is at Camborne today, well most of it!
 

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In 2009 it took me the best part of all day to travel from Bude to Truro, staying as near to the coast for as long as possible.

I can see from pix on Flickr that at least the Tinner Enviro 400-MMCs have a different red-based moquette. This pic taken in the dark does illustrate it. https://www.flickr.com/photos/drake...R9Z-Rehw3y-Stvva8-RbP9zd-TEuXnn-YMnoWn-VHBGJS

I wonder approximately what percentage of First Kernow buses still have First corporate livery or moquette. I look forward to when these disappear from Cornwall altogether!
The interior of the MMCs (inc the blue ones) is in the FirstBus scheme that seems to be used for premium services, ie grey and white with silver handrails, and bespoke seat moquette with white e leather headrests.

I've no idea whether the new buses will also be in this scheme, something different, or standard FirstBus with beige e leather seats.
 

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I have been wanting to do a day trip to Bude by bus for a while. I want to do the 96 between Wadebridge and Camelford and spend some time in Bude. Sadly this is extremely difficult by bus from west Cornwall so it is on hold for now.

Bad connections at wadebridge make it difficult from the east as well.
 

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Just wondering, why aren't the TT-- TRU plate coaches all in the green truronian livery (TT05TRU, TT55TRU, and TT07TRU)

The only one that carries the livery is TT04TRU, I'll show some images below (not mine):

Apart from all these coaches, a scania irizar also carries the branding, though only for a short time I think until the old first kernow coaches branding gets put back on it.

Please just link to images that aren't yours - if you republish the pictures without permission you are infringing the copyright of the photographer.
 

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First pulled out of the Bude to Plymouth 27th September 2009, when they cut back to callington albeit with a few extensions to launceston until 2014, which ceased on 1st June 2014.
Western Greyhound took over Plymouth to Bude from First as the 576 with brand new long Solos(WK59***). They later used Citaros as the route outgrew the Solos. PCB now normally use a mix of Citaros and Enviro 400s. Occasionally Enviro 200s get on the route as well but their fuel tanks are too small for a full day’s duty!

Bude to wadebridge is far too long on the discomfort of a Jersey Dart!
56004 was working Bude to Wadebridge but that was a few months ago. Would that be more comfortable than a Jersey Dart?!

On another topic 38001 is for sale on Ebay by Dan Shears at Winkleigh for a cool £3200. It still has Southbourne Buses in the destination!
 
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Sorry, I thought I did but I guess not, I'll remember next time!

Also lads, who's going to get their mouths stuffed with pancakes tomorrow? I know I am!
 

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56004 was working Bude to Wadebridge but that was a few months ago. Would that be more comfortable than a Jersey Dart?!

On another topic 38001 is for sale on Ebay by Dan Shears at Winkleigh for a cool £3200. It still has Southbourne Buses in the destination!

56004 would be very comfortable. Coach spec seats and leg room.

38001 ad says it could do with a paint job, but of an understatement :lol:
 
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Ok, so I know now what's happening with 34311, though I have some questions.

Has S554RWP been bought by a preservationist or a scrap company? It's been languishing in Taunton for ages now!

What exactly is happening with P430ORL? I know it's been bought by someone but it's in use at Penzance depot as a seat storage unit?

Whereabouts is 34198? There was news of it going to winkleigh but no sign of it since the start of January.

What is going on with 33099? It's been sitting in Taunton ever since it got transferred there, but following engine problems on the way down didn't help. You'd think that they would have repaired it by now!
 
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44920 (YX09 AHG) And another Enviro 200 have been transferred to Truro depot today

44920 spent a couple of years in Plymouth back around 2010 so full circle coming back to First SW
 

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44920 (YX09 AHG) And another Enviro 200 have been transferred to Truro depot today

44920 spent a couple of years in Plymouth back around 2010 so full circle coming back to First SW

They’ve been everywhere! New to First Glasgow, then to Plymouth, Swansea, Bristol, Bath, then Portsmouth.

Stated on FHD forum as being 44920/21 sent via Taunton.
 
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They’ve been everywhere! New to First Glasgow, then to Plymouth, Swansea, Bristol, Bath, then Portsmouth.

Stated on FHD forum as being 44920/21 sent via Taunton.

Are they unsuitable for everywhere they’ve been? Unpopular vehicles? Being offloaded so much can’t be a good sign? They were new March 2009, so 9 years old and onto their 7th operation
 

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Are they unsuitable for everywhere they’ve been? Unpopular vehicles? Being offloaded so much can’t be a good sign? They were new March 2009, so 9 years old and onto their 7th operation

Their short length and resultant low capacity has been a problem. That’s why they left Bristol. FHD spent quite a time sorting these out as they weren’t in the best of nick on leaving Bath.
 

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44920 (YX09 AHG) And another Enviro 200 have been transferred to Truro depot today

44920 spent a couple of years in Plymouth back around 2010 so full circle coming back to First SW

Thanks for the information, supposed to be four coming to Kernow I believe.
 

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