The oldest in London are London Bridge, Deptford and Greenwich (London and Greenwich Railway) opened in 1836 shortly before Euston in mid 1837Hello I was wondering i for anyone out there can help me. I’m looking for a list of the oldest train stations in the world? Not the horse drawn cart ones but passenger locomotive services. Any help will do. Thanks
Nick
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Do you mean Liverpool Road?Manchester London Road claims to be the oldest. It cant be as Heightington came first.
Is the first date "1835" in your comprehensive reply above a typo?The 'oldest passenger railway' is often claimed by both the 'Stockton and Darlington Railway' and the 'Liverpool and Manchester Railway'...
Is the first date "1835" in your comprehensive reply above a typo?
Do any of the Swansea & Mumbles stations survive?
It might lose that status to Curzon St (Birmingham) depending on if/how the surviving 1838 portico is incorporated into the HS2 station. However it will have suffered a long hiatus if passenger use is the criterion (or rather shorter for goods / parcels usage).* I'm going to cross out North Road and add Greenwich instead; its building dates from 1840 and is still in full use. It's the oldest in use station building that I can identify and beats North Road by 2 years.
The 'oldest passenger railway' is often claimed by both the 'Stockton and Darlington Railway' and the 'Liverpool and Manchester Railway'. I believe the distinction is that on the Stockton-Darlington Railway from 1825, passengers travelled on a carriage attached to freight workings, with some locomotives still horse drawn, and no regular timetable. Whereas Liverpool - Manchester opened in 1830 as a passsenger only service with a full timetable and as a steam-only line. So S&D is older, but L&M was the first to be what we'd recognize as a full railway today.
I think what cuccir means here is that passenger trains were passenger-only. There were also freight trains, indeed I think freight was the main reason the line was built.Whereas Liverpool - Manchester opened in 1830 as a passsenger only service with a full timetable and as a steam-only line.
The 'oldest passenger railway' is often claimed by both the 'Stockton and Darlington Railway' and the 'Liverpool and Manchester Railway'. I believe the distinction is that on the Stockton-Darlington Railway from 1825, passengers travelled on a carriage attached to freight workings, with some locomotives still horse drawn, and no regular timetable. Whereas Liverpool - Manchester opened in 1830 as a passsenger only service with a full timetable and as a steam-only line. So S&D is older, but L&M was the first to be what we'd recognize as a full railway today.
The very first service to take passengers on the Stockton-Darlington started in September 1825 at the location of modern day Heighington station, though there was nothing that we'd meaningfully call a station today; passengers were dropped off at level crossings. That legacy can be seen at Heighington, which is still either side of a level crossing.
So we could call Heighington the oldest - there have been trains calling on the site since 1825.
Other claimants might include:
* The oldest surviving building is Manchester Liverpool Road, the terminus of the Liverpool-Manchester line in 1830 - but it hasn't had passenger services since 1844!
* Broad Green also opened in 1830 as a fully functioning station and still is today, but the buildings are from the 1970s
* Brighton station still has elements of its facade which date from 1840. From what I can tell, this is the oldest bit of building that still remains part of a railway station, though much of it is now hidden. I believe that the external stone clock is part of the original building
* Darlington North Road still has full station buildings from 1842, but these are part of a museum attached to the modern day station. Still, it's effectively the same site though you can't move directly between the two
* I'm going to cross out North Road and add Greenwich instead; its building dates from 1840 and is still in full use. It's the oldest in use station building that I can identify and beats North Road by 2 years.
That's not comprehensive - I'm sure there must be other claimants??
The Swansea & Mumbles was the first fare paying passengers railway and opened in 1807. Scarely gets a mention in the NRM too.The 'oldest passenger railway' is often claimed by both the 'Stockton and Darlington Railway' and the 'Liverpool and Manchester Railway'. I believe the distinction is that on the Stockton-Darlington Railway from 1825, passengers travelled on a carriage attached to freight workings, with some locomotives still horse drawn, and no regular timetable. Whereas Liverpool - Manchester opened in 1830 as a passsenger only service with a full timetable and as a steam-only line. So S&D is older, but L&M was the first to be what we'd recognize as a full railway today.
The very first service to take passengers on the Stockton-Darlington started in September 1825 at the location of modern day Heighington station, though there was nothing that we'd meaningfully call a station today; passengers were dropped off at level crossings. That legacy can be seen at Heighington, which is still either side of a level crossing.
So we could call Heighington the oldest - there have been trains calling on the site since 1825.
Other claimants might include:
* The oldest surviving building is Manchester Liverpool Road, the terminus of the Liverpool-Manchester line in 1830 - but it hasn't had passenger services since 1844!
* Broad Green also opened in 1830 as a fully functioning station and still is today, but the buildings are from the 1970s
* Brighton station still has elements of its facade which date from 1840. From what I can tell, this is the oldest bit of building that still remains part of a railway station, though much of it is now hidden. I believe that the external stone clock is part of the original building
* Darlington North Road still has full station buildings from 1842, but these are part of a museum attached to the modern day station. Still, it's effectively the same site though you can't move directly between the two
* I'm going to cross out North Road and add Greenwich instead; its building dates from 1840 and is still in full use. It's the oldest in use station building that I can identify and beats North Road by 2 years.
That's not comprehensive - I'm sure there must be other claimants??
Eccles? oh do you mean the bus shelters first northwestern and northern installed c1980/2015Rainhill / Edge Hill / Huyton / Eccles - 1830 Liverpool to Manchester railway.
The Stockton and Darlington railway was first, not the Liverpool and Manchester Railway. That is the end of the discussion.
The Stockton and Darlington railway was first, not the Liverpool and Manchester Railway. That is the end of the discussion.
I can currently see remains of Blackpill station, perhaps 30ft long and 10 wide, now used as a cafe next to the lido. "The Slip" is sort of still there too..Did the Swansea & Mumbles even have stations, or just 'stopping points'? (genuine question)
The Swansea & Mumbles was the first fare paying passengers railway and opened in 1807. Scarely gets a mention in the NRM too.
Must be the only line to have used horse, sail steam, electric (including battery) and diesel during its bizarre lifetime.
* I'm going to cross out North Road and add Greenwich instead; its building dates from 1840 and is still in full use. It's the oldest in use station building that I can identify and beats North Road by 2 years.
That's not comprehensive - I'm sure there must be other claimants??
I can currently see remains of Blackpill station, perhaps 30ft long and 10 wide, now used as a cafe next to the lido. "The Slip" is sort of still there too..
really? would have been an interesting sight.......with some locomotives still horse drawn, ......................