MostlyHarmless
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I thought there was just a standard pass mark (although I have heard people mentioned enhanced) which all the TOCs used?
Hello mate, when I got a breakdown from OPC on my last attempt he said I had An Enhanced pass on all tests bar the TEA-Occ so I concluded there must be a few thresholds that different TOCs use potentially.I thought there was just a standard pass mark (although I have heard people mentioned enhanced) which all the TOCs used?
Wow now you’ve made me think. I’ve DM’d you my situation.To narrow down candidates, many TOCs now set their own pass marks for the Stage 1 assessments, known as an Enhanced Standard. This 'Enhanced Standard' differs from company to company, and only the OPC and the TOC in question knows what the pass mark is. The OPC will inform you when you sit the tests if you are required to achieve an Enhanced Standard.
If you fail to achieve the Enhanced Standard, you may have still passed to the National Standard. (The TOC will inform you if this is the case)
If you achieved the National Standard, then although you will have unfortunately been unsuccessful with the company you have applied for, after six months you will be eligible to apply for other companies who may accept your Stage One results as they are, or they may only ask you to resit specific tests in which you don't meet their own 'Enhanced Standard'.
Another thing to be aware of is a slight change in the two-life rule. Some people have sadly discovered that some TOCs now count an 'attempt' at the tests as a life, regardless of whether you passed or failed them. That means that it's possible to pass the assessments twice and never be given an opportunity to do them again. Because of this, think long and hard before resitting any OPC assessments to achieve a certain Enhanced Standard.
Finally, some TOCs set different life-spans to your OPC test results. Officially, your passes are valid for up to five years, but some TOCs will only accept them if they're under, say, two years old, for example.
On a less scary note though, I'm not aware of any Enhanced Standards for the Stage 2 OPC assessments.
Another thing to be aware of is a slight change in the two-life rule. Some people have sadly discovered that some TOCs now count an 'attempt' at the tests as a life, regardless of whether you passed or failed them. That means that it's possible to pass the assessments twice and never be given an opportunity to do them again. Because of this, think long and hard before resitting any OPC assessments to achieve a certain Enhanced Standard.
To narrow down candidates, many TOCs now set their own pass marks for the Stage 1 assessments, known as an Enhanced Standard. This 'Enhanced Standard' differs from company to company, and only the OPC and the TOC in question knows what the pass mark is. The OPC will inform you when you sit the tests if you are required to achieve an Enhanced Standard.
If you fail to achieve the Enhanced Standard, you may have still passed to the National Standard. (The TOC will inform you if this is the case)
If you achieved the National Standard, then although you will have unfortunately been unsuccessful with the company you have applied for, after six months you will be eligible to apply for other companies who may accept your Stage One results as they are, or they may only ask you to resit specific tests in which you don't meet their own 'Enhanced Standard'.
Another thing to be aware of is a slight change in the two-life rule. Some people have sadly discovered that some TOCs now count an 'attempt' at the tests as a life, regardless of whether you passed or failed them. That means that it's possible to pass the assessments twice and never be given an opportunity to do them again. Because of this, think long and hard before resitting any OPC assessments to achieve a certain Enhanced Standard.
Finally, some TOCs set different life-spans to your OPC test results. Officially, your passes are valid for up to five years, but some TOCs will only accept them if they're under, say, two years old, for example.
On a less scary note though, I'm not aware of any Enhanced Standards for the Stage 2 OPC assessments.
Hi Dynamonic,
Hope you don't mind me replying to your comment, but can you tell me where you found this information out regarding the slight change in the two life rule, even attempting at a test is considered a life whether you passed or failed?
I've only ever applied once, I applied for the trainee depot driver for EMT which you also did, (I was one of the people that did the stage 2 test on the Thursday there was a big group of us) I didn't pass to enhanced rate on all the test hence why I didn't get through to the next stage, but that hasn't deterred me from trying again in the future. But reading what you've just written has made me curious where you found that information out as I wouldn't want to jeopardise myself for the future if an opportunity arose and I didn't feel ready but tried again to apply.
EMT didn't mention nothing apart from saying that my results may be applicable for other companies after 6 months, but that's all I knew.
BTW congratulations on getting through to the talent pool I've read some of your comments throughout the thread and they've been very helpful to majority of people, even those that hadn't registered as a user on here (like me )
This is really useful, but at the risk of sounding stupid, what constitutes stage 1 and stage 2 tests? I did about 9 in the one day - although you had to pass each section to proceed to the next. After all that I was told I had passed and the next bit was the DMI.
Well Ladies and Gentlemen. On my 4th and final attempt I gone and bl@#dy passed. Unofficially I start driving course in October.
The 2 hand coordination (joystick) that I failed last time was different. The sticks had collars around the base. The left and right stick could only move on that axis, up and down stick the same. The interview was also a lot more relaxed and bordered on a friendly chat. Thanks for the hints and tips from the forum members.
I had previously sat the old psychometric test and failed the interview. I got sent back a year later to re do the interview and failed again. Interviewer contradicted her colleague from my previous attempt. Then as we all know the scores were reset when the new test was introduced. I failed my 1st attempt at the hand coordination (joystick) exercise. The person who administered the test informed me I wouldn't progress to the interview (since she was the person who failed me previously I was both glad I didnt have to deal with her and sad that I might have to later). I decided I wasnt going to pursue a driving career. Three attempts was enough.Firstly, well done! You must be thrilled!
What interview was it you had btw, and it was the 4th attempt at what?
These are the 5 scenarios I was asked for the interview.
1, explain a time when you had to take control of a difficult or dangerous situation.
2, explain a role that you have carried out that is similar to the role of train driver.
3, describe an occasion when you have had to persevere to learn or achieve something.
4, when have you had to carry out a task and be very careful not to make a mistake.
5, when have you had to go above and beyond your normal role to meet the needs of a customer.
TEA-OCC questions
- How many high/low tones can I expect to hear? tens, hundreds?
- Do people think the exact number of tones is required for a pass?
- Are you allowed to use scrap paper to tally up the tone count?
- Part 3 (combined tones/directory) is a consistent tone or high/low too?
TEA-OCC questions
- How many high/low tones can I expect to hear? tens, hundreds?
- Do people think the exact number of tones is required for a pass?
- Are you allowed to use scrap paper to tally up the tone count?
- Part 3 (combined tones/directory) is a consistent tone or high/low too?
This one I found is a little slower https://traineetraindriverinfo.com/low-tones-test-track-1/Seems faster than mine was...