As far as I know they're just hiding it again. The Queen Street twitter feed had a picture celebrating the old roof becoming visible which got deleted, possibly when somebody pointed out they just planned to put a slightly less awful carbunkle back in front of it. Now they're focusing on showing it from the inside and boasting about how light and airy it will be because the new carbunkle is glassWhy can't one see the overall roof in this rendition? Is that going too?
Although the AI doesn't show it, I suppose if it's all glass, then the roof will be visible through it?As far as I know they're just hiding it again. The Queen Street twitter feed had a picture celebrating the old roof becoming visible which got deleted, possibly when somebody pointed out they just planned to put a slightly less awful carbunkle back in front of it. Now they're focusing on showing it from the inside and boasting about how light and airy it will be because the new carbunkle is glass
I'd guess it would wreck the lines. Tbh I'm pretty relaxed about the next building - it's not what I'd have chosen, but it's less ugly than what was there, and it will likely be a far nicer station inside. It was only when old roof got exposed this week that I started looking at it and thinking "You'd be mad to go hiding that"Although the AI doesn't show it, I suppose if it's all glass, then the roof will be visible through it?
I'd guess it would wreck the lines. Tbh I'm pretty relaxed about the next building - it's not what I'd have chosen, but it's less ugly than what was there, and it will likely be a far nicer station inside. It was only when old roof got exposed this week that I started looking at it and thinking "You'd be mad to go hiding that"
I agree with the above post. My whole life I have known the current Queen Street and it is not an inspiring place. Everything seemed to work but in the same way everything seemed to work on my Mum's Triumph Dolomite but wasn't particularly good at anything.
Is there a map of the new station layout available anywhere?
I've looked at a couple of renders, one on the NR Media Centre website:
https://www.networkrailmediacentre....n-street-station-redevelopment-gets-underway#
and this one on the EGIP website:
https://www.networkrailmediacentre....n-street-station-redevelopment-gets-underway#
I was wondering if anyone knows if the big red National Rail sign has been removed from the final design?
It looks like that hotel might need to spend some money now that it is going to be more visible.
As far as I know they're just hiding it again. The Queen Street twitter feed had a picture celebrating the old roof becoming visible which got deleted, possibly when somebody pointed out they just planned to put a slightly less awful carbunkle back in front of it. Now they're focusing on showing it from the inside and boasting about how light and airy it will be because the new carbunkle is glass
They couldn't have because it was essential to move the concourse southwards so that the platforms could be lengthened to eight coaches. It is strange that the NR renders don't show the old station span behind the new frontage.
It looks like there is a big hole to be filled in the end of the hotel (covered with polythene in the picture) - I think the concrete block was an extension to the same hotel so they would have knocked through for access to it.I'm guessing most of that side will be re-hidden by the new glass fronted building, though I'm sure that the government could pick up the bill for a touch up and some paint from the hotel as part of the project.
It looks like there is a big hole to be filled in the end of the hotel (covered with polythene in the picture) - I think the concrete block was an extension to the same hotel so they would have knocked through for access to it.
Definitely was. The hotel has a planning application in to extend upwards, it shows the connecting link at that position on each of the various ‘existing’ floor plans.I did wonder if that was a passage through from the hotel to the concrete block.
I'm guessing most of that side will be re-hidden by the new glass fronted building, though I'm sure that the government could pick up the bill for a touch up and some paint from the hotel as part of the project.
I can see them paying for it, if only to eliminate the "North British" hate speech adorning the side of the building as quickly as possible.
I wonder if modern day 'Scotrail' will ever become 'Scottish Railways'.
Why would it?
In this era of brand being everything, ScotRail is snappy, descriptive and to the point.
Scottish Railways is just cumbersome (those two extra syllables make all the difference) and dare I say old-sounding.
Good research, thanks. I've pondered whether, if the extensions had all been in the identical classical style of the hotel, there would have been a cat in hell's chance of knocking them down. The homogeneity of it all would have been seen as sacrosanct, as opposed to a chance to demolish 50s brutality.Definitely was. The hotel has a planning application in to extend upwards, it shows the connecting link at that position on each of the various ‘existing’ floor plans.
Glasgow planning reference is:
14/02813/DC
Alterations and extension to hotel.
Millennium Hotel 40 George Square Glasgow G2 1DS
Part of the reasoning for extending higher is to replace all the lost bedrooms in the extension.
I think I almost prefer the old extension to a massive great shoe box looming over the hotel like that.Good research, thanks. I've pondered whether, if the extensions had all been in the identical classical style of the hotel, there would have been a cat in hell's chance of knocking them down. The homogeneity of it all would have been seen as sacrosanct, as opposed to a chance to demolish 50s brutality.
I think I almost prefer the old extension to a massive great shoe box looming over the hotel like that.
Yes, possibly I didn't make it clear. I meant, had both the hotel extension and the office block been the same height and classical style as the original hotel itself - then I think demolition would have been difficult.I think I almost prefer the old extension to a massive great shoe box looming over the hotel like that.
Ahh sorry, I meant the proposed new extension skywards is a massive great shoe box looming over the hotel.Yes, possibly I didn't make it clear. I meant, had both the hotel extension and the office block been the same height and classical style as the original hotel itself - then I think demolition would have been difficult.
Not according to their website, but, given any direct access to the side hotel stopped when the George Square entrance was closed off I'd assume any reciprocal arrangement probably terminated some time ago as the connection would become a bit more inconvenient (although, not as inconvenient as the mobility access arrangements, which are proving to be a continuing comedy).I believe the hotel is still used as scotrail's 1st class lounge.
It looks like Scotrail have recently updated their website. Other websites, eg Trainline, are still showing lounge facilities at the hotel.Not according to their website, but, given any direct access to the side hotel stopped when the George Square entrance was closed off I'd assume any reciprocal arrangement probably terminated some time ago as the connection would become a bit more inconvenient (although, not as inconvenient as the mobility access arrangements, which are proving to be a continuing comedy).