I appreciate to provide a service to the public heritage railways need a steady, regular income to maintain the infrastructure etc. However, over the past couple of years from articles I've read in various heritage rail-orientated magazines it seems for some of the larger lines the #1 priority is 'bums on seats' Don't get me wrong I like to see lines thriving but at the expense of a relaxing, hassle free day out? Comments from some railways seem to think it's great if the train is so full that passengers have to stand! If I want to stand on a train I'll just get the 8am train to Waterloo on a weekday! A few years back we were on a train on one of the 'largest' heritage railway where it was 'standing room only' We did have seats but the journey was spoilt by jostling passengers & on one occasion a guy standing in the aisle leaning right over us to look out of the window. No 'please' or 'excuse me'. I would mention that this particular day was not a 'special event' day. I expect many will disagree with me; we all have differing views & obviously my comment do not apply to all heritage lines but I think it's a pity that some have go so large that it's more of a business now than a leisure pursuit.