Train Describer Messages

[jon0844]

I wonder what this was a few days ago?

 

[GB]

I wonder what this was a few days ago?

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Engineering work. WON 18 refers to the Weekly Operating Notice Week 18. IT13 is the item number within the WON.

 

[jon0844]

Engineering work. WON 18 refers to the Weekly Operating Notice Week 18. IT13 is the item number within the WON.

Ah yes, that makes sense.

 

[fermit]

From January when HU closed.

 

[Surreytraveller]

Have seen (rarely tho!) TAX1 leave that one for you to decide

Usually a unit purposefully left in a station for a driver to take to sidings to save them having to walk

 

[Pete_uk]

I'll leave this here (03:00 hrs)

 

[LAX54]

Usually a unit purposefully left in a station for a driver to take to sidings to save them having to walk

Car in Car Park, some distance from depot, or vice versa

 

[185143]

From January when HU closed.

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I remember when 507002 derailed in Kirkdale TMD a few years ago on Boxing day-Traksy showed OOPS.

 

[GW43125]

Seen from an employee moved from a panel to a ROC
"-I-- MISS -MY- -PAN EL-- BOX-
-I-- WANT -TO- -GO- HOME"

 

[Andyjs247]

Following high winds I have seen SHED and ROOF as well as TREE. Was around Stourbridge IIRC.

 

[spark001uk]

I've also seen -EO- for electricity off.

Actually maybe we could start an alphabetical "glossary" for these terms and add their alternatives as we come across them?

 

[E_Reeves]

I've also seen -EO- for electricity off.

Actually maybe we could start an alphabetical "glossary" for these terms and add their alternatives as we come across them?

I wouldn't mind doing that, but would anybody find it useful?

 

[spark001uk]

I wouldn't mind doing that, but would anybody find it useful?

OK yes, that would be good. I guess it would be useful, if only to satisfy curiosity when seeing something on a diagram.
Another one I find useful for identifying train types is the 8-digit TSC (Train Service Code). The scot-rail community wiki has a list which I use sometimes, but there's a few codes that I haven't found (maybe unique to England, not sure?)

 

[E_Reeves]

List of common train describer messages:

-EO- - Electric Off/Engineer's Occupation

-T3- - Possession of line

1Z99 - Rescue train(usually locomotive)

BLKD - Line blocked

BLOC - Line blocked

BLOK - Line blocked

BRUK - Failed train

BTET - Blocked to electric traction

BUST - Failed train

CL57 - Class 57

DMIC - Failed train

DMU- - DMU in berth

DVT- - Loco hauled set

ELEC - Electric loco

FAIL - Failed train

GONE - Line out of use

LBLK - Line blocked

LECY - Electric loco

NAKA - Failed train

NDSS - North end of down station siding

NDVR - No driver

NO*R - No run-round

NOGO - Line blocked

OOU- - Line out of use

POSS - Possession of line

RUNR - Run-round

RUST - Line out of use

SHUT - Line blocked

SPRE - Spare

STBL - Stabled

TBRD - Thunderbird

TMPR - Tamper

TPEX - Transpennine Express

UNIT - Unit in berth

WAGS - Wagons in berth

WASH - Train being washed

WGNS - Wagons in berth

 

[E_Reeves]

How's that looking? Please tell me if I've made any mistakes and anything I've missed off

 

[Mag_seven]

How's that looking? Please tell me if I've made any mistakes and anything I've missed off

NDVR - No Driver

 

[E_Reeves]

NDVR - No Driver

Thanks

 

[Sunset route]

I've also seen -EO- for electricity off.

Actually maybe we could start an alphabetical "glossary" for these terms and add their alternatives as we come across them?

We use EO for “engineers occupation” for T3 possessions either by personal choice or when you have two T3 possessions back to back to distinguish the possessions from each other and BTET “block to electric traction” for when the traction current is off.

 

[frediculous]

How's that looking? Please tell me if I've made any mistakes and anything I've missed off

NODC is used at Fawkham Junction

 

[RailAleFan]

Following high winds I have seen SHED and ROOF as well as TREE. Was around Stourbridge IIRC.

TRAM
-PO-
LINE

 

[GW43125]

xCAR or xxCR seen quite often at Waterloo when the job's up the spout so they're reminding themselves how long a train is.

 

[E_Reeves]

NODC is used at Fawkham Junction

As in no DC current?

 

[ComUtoR]

How many of these messages are official or are they local jargon ?

 

[spark001uk]

How many of these messages are official or are they local jargon ?

Not sure, but I think it would be prudent to include them all, so that if we come across any 'local jargon' we also know what it refers to?

 

[318266]

FAIL - Failed train (just saw in Edinburgh, next to 1EMU)

 

[GusB]

I'm intrigued by this one:

NAKA - Failed train

Where does NAKA come from?

 

[spark001uk]

I saw STLB once on a diagram, and initially thought it was a typo of STBL, but then I saw it again somewhere else. Anyone know it?

 

[ComUtoR]

Not sure, but I think it would be prudent to include them all, so that if we come across any 'local jargon' we also know what it refers to?

I think there should be a separate list for official and non official. -EO- being a prime example of where there can be confusion.

 

[318266]

N0G0 - same as NOGO, in Pelaw.

 

[spark001uk]

I think there should be a separate list for official and non official. -EO- being a prime example of where there can be confusion.

You have a point, although I'm slightly concerned that one signaller could possibly be confused by another!