PHILIPE
Veteran Member
All of them onto the Voyager. It was a 5-car unit admittedly but that's still going to be cosy.
Sure ? Seen that the Voyager was 220025
All of them onto the Voyager. It was a 5-car unit admittedly but that's still going to be cosy.
Having looked into it some more, you are probably right - It wasn't the unit I originally thought it was. 389 passengers on a 4-car Voyager? Blimey.Sure ? Seen that the Voyager was 220025
I think you’d be glad to just be moving again. They had an HST forward from Exeter.Having looked into it some more, you are probably right - It wasn't the unit I originally thought it was. 389 passengers on a 4-car Voyager? Blimey.
Three words: standard coupler height.
Then the Voyager can drag the whole lot at 5mph to Exeter or Taunton or wherever. I get all the issues with brakes etc but the railway has got to stop disappearing up its own backside with incidents like this and realise that getting the punters moving is #1 priority. An almost 8hr delay is just totally unacceptable and indefensible on every level.
Evacuation complete just shy of six hours after the train failed.
The no doubt weary passengers are now on their way back to Exeter St Davids.
Get ready for the s**tstorm tomorrow GWR.
With no vestibule windows to open for fresh air.
If an HST had had such an air leak, once it had been fixed you're good to go. No TMS to go wrong!If the train failed at 17.10, why on earth did it take so long to get Hitachi staff down to look at it? Would it have taken that long had it been a HST (where GWR's staff deal with problems themselves)?
I seem to remember some comments about power being switched off, presumably in an attempt to rectify the fault, not sure if it was left off.Did the trains HVAC fail?
I've just seen this on the news and think it's absolutely shameful that it took GWR six hours to detrain the passengers! No wonder passengers numbers are falling!
I've just seen this on the news and think it's absolutely shameful that it took GWR six hours to detrain the passengers! No wonder passengers numbers are falling!
Which makes it even more infuriating when this wasn't actually the case! Who decided to carry out an evacuation as you have 7 trains queuing on the down?! The GWR higher ups need to get a grip on what is actually going on! No staff at Tiverton when I got back there last night and quite a few passengers not knowing what was going on. And as far as I can tell not even so much of an apology from GWR and Hitachi to passengers today.Noon
It looks as though the priority was to keep other traffic moving past the incident, thus reducing delays to other passengers.
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. But what else do you expect from GWR and WorstGroup?And as far as I can tell not even so much of an apology from GWR and Hitachi to passengers today.
Well quite, All the execs were ina meeting today apparently patting themselves on the back about some award and not a word was said about last night.Nothing. Absolutely nothing. But what else do you expect from GWR and WorstGroup?
Well according to this article they've been offered a full refund and some guy mentions a free journey.
There wasn’t really anything that could have been done quicker. Evacuating 400 people down a narrow ladder; along the track with poor underfoot conditions in the dark and then back up a narrow ladder takes time. If it’s rushed and people get hurt they end up in an RAIB report.
It’s correct that it’s really not great for the persons involved to be delayed that much; but the vast, vast majority of people directly involved were reportedly very patient and understanding of the situation - only the hindsight brigade who weren’t actually affected seem to be outraged by the incident.
Was detaching the good unit and then crossing it over to enable doorway bridging to allow evacuation not possible?
Didn't they try to keep trains running on the adjacent track?Why didn't the Voyager pull up next to the failure then use a walkway?
Until the evacuation happened, then all lines shut causing a backlog of 8 or so trains.Didn't they try to keep trains running on the adjacent track?
From what I read on the GWR Twitter, they're giving passengers a full refund (of course) plus a free journey, possibly even a free return, anywhere on the GWR network.
Did the trains HVAC fail?
Most likely the best available unit at the time as the only other unit could of been a 15x.Out of curiosity, why a Voyager? Purely because this was the closest available unit as GWR had nothing to offer?
Wasn't a Voyager used in the Watford landslip/derailment as the evacuation unit?
A bad enough air leak on one unit would lock the brakes on and prevent the train from moving.
But I agree that it SHOULD have been possible to uncouple the good unit and use that on its own, I can only surmise that the loss of air "confused" the good unit and resulted in a "computer says no" situation on the unit WITHOUT the air leak.
Transferring passengers into the good unit would be a challenge due to the lack of through gangways, but no worse than transfer along the track into a voyager, which is now underway.