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For your overnight stay, if you stay somewhere in Fife you can start the day in style with a 68 for haulage over the Forth Bridge.
 
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I'm thinking of an overnighter in 2019 as well

Plenty of Premier Inns and Travelodges
 

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For your overnight stay, if you stay somewhere in Fife you can start the day in style with a 68 for haulage over the Forth Bridge.

Wow that's a pretty special way to start a day on the rails. What route(s) do the 68s work north of the border?
 

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Thanks for all of the tips regarding Scotland guys, as ever it gives me plenty of food for thought in my planning.

As sightings are my priority at the moment I think I am probably working more like @palmersears in that I like to get somewhere, plonk myself down and tick off winners galore before moving on when repetition kicks in. As this trip will be time limited as the cheapest tickets offer only fixed trains to catch I think the trips out to depots would be too risky in that I might nab a few winners but would ultimately miss out at some of the stations.

That said, I will certainly need more than this visit to ScotRail land so I will still be looking at the overnight stay I have as a must do for next year which will allow me the time to get around the depots (and across to Haymarket) so @47403 and @433N your advice won't be wasted :)

That's no problem Mr Train. I learned a lot on this very forum, from like minded souls, so if I can pass that on, so others profit like I did, then all the better.
 

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The local can still surprise - Monday 26th November 2018

Having been very good to me during my first 6 months back in the game, the local had suddenly dried up of late. That hasn't deterred me from the odd visit and this day proved to be one of the better ones of recent times. It was early evening when I arrived and with Mondays sometimes throwing up surprises following loco changes over the weekend, I settled into the 4pm freight rush but without luck in the early exchanges. The first hour comprised of 4 dud sheds and a very dud 70007 before FLR 66594 rolled through working containers north to Trafford Park having come up from the docks at Southampton. I thought this might be a turn in luck but a couple of dud FLR 70s put paid to that until another Freightliner shed was chalked off with 66514 working a Ditton-Felixstowe turn. It was getting cold by now and I was ready to throw the towel in (even 92043 didn't put an appearance in as the car run was cancelled) but there was one move from Wembley keeping me interested so I engrossed myself in my book during the 'quiet hour' between 1800 and 1900 with just 325004 running a test to Rugby and dud 66517 actually being able to drag my eyes away from my book. But just before 1900 and with icicles dangling from my eyelids I could hear the grumble of a 68 crawling through the goods line, so I knew this was worth the wait even if it turned out to be a dud. 68009 showed it's face but it quickly became apparent she wasn't alone and it turned out that she had Chiltern liveried 68015, TPE liveried 68030 and DRS liveried 68004 for company as they worked from Wembley to Gresty Bridge. Unfortunately, the other 3 were duds, but it was still a great sight
68s passing through Stafford by The_Train

I also have a video of their departure which I will add to the thread once I've figured out how to do so haha.

That was it for that outing as the cold had truly bitten into me so it was homeward bound feeling happy to have a seen a lovely foursome of masterful engineering.

Chasing an Eastern Star - Friday 30th November 2018

I had originally planned to drive to Nottingham the previous day but had been unsure about access to the platforms without a ticket. I did email EMT to try and address this but as of this moment, I am still awaiting a response. On this basis, I decided to travel on train instead for an afternoon/evening around the East Midlands. The day started with a journey to Tamworth aboard LNWR 350118 which was a winner for haulage if not for sight. I'd been keeping an eye on RTT and we were due to arrive into Tamworth minutes before a bit of action on the high level platforms so there was no time for the standard 350 photo at Tamworth and it was a case of battling the crowds to get to platform 3 just in time to see DB 66160 pass by working Bescot to Toton before 60091 also trundled through with a working to Kingsbury having travelled from Lindsey Oil Refinery
DB class 60 60091 passing Tamworth station by The_Train

A good return considering I was only at Tamworth for around 15 minutes before I was heading into the East Midlands on 170101, another winner for haulage. I'd braced myself for Wetmore Sidings but then managed to miss most of what was in the row of locos (most were the 08s/09s I'd seen last time I went past) but I did catch 20904 which was trying to hide amongst the gronks. It had been a good opening but the chaotic scenes at Derby gave an insight into what would prove to be a day of disruption on the MML. These issues were soon forgotten as we moved off Derby and went past the Network Rail depot where there was a plethora of locos sat around. More 20s went into the book as 20189 and 20142 were sat together and then my first yellow DVT was chalked off thanks to 82129 before another gronk went into the book, this time 08588 doing the honours. There was also a Colas 37 sat in there but was just far enough away to avoid capture but still I was more than happy with the start I'd made to this outing. My arrival into Nottingham was met with 158810 and 158864 and soon after 156470 and 153368 also went into the book. It quickly became apparent that this place would require a lot of roaming and that's what was needed to bag my first Meridian of the day as 222102 made it into the Midlands albeit very late thanks to signal failure south of Luton
EMT 'Meridian' 222102 and XC 170519 seen at Nottingham by The_Train

I'd not eaten too far into the 156 class so it was nice to see 156403 as it worked a Newark to Matlock stopper and 156498 arrive in swift succession before my first sighting of a HST for the day allowed me to mark down duds 43058 and 43048 but it also allowed me to get more coaching stock into the book
EMT 156403 leaves Nottingham by The_Train

The winners were arriving at a steady pace and 156406 added to the list before 158773 arrived to join dud 158863 which had arrived ECS to make the 1157 ex Norwich to Liverpool service a 4 carriage affair from Nottingham onwards. 156405 also went into the book before I received a response from @Skymonster, who I'd asked for advice regarding the East Midlands area. His advice of 'I wouldn't bother' (these might not be his exact words) was read just as I heard a thunderous growl heading from the Eastcroft direction and was surprised to see Colas 70805 arriving with another loco in tow
Colas Rail 70805 pulls into Nottingham by The_Train

The other loco also turned out to be a winner, but not just any winner, it was the "Fearless" 50050 which, after a quick cab change, then took the lead to power out of Nottingham as they headed towards Barnetby sidings
50050 and 43058 at Nottingham by The_Train
50050 "Fearless" departs Nottingham by The_Train

Following this excitement, there was a little run of duds before more 156s were chalked off - 415 and 408 this time around. 158799 was the next unit into the book before we were blessed with more loco action as it was RHTT time with 56090 and 56105 working Sandiacre to Toton
Colas Rail 56105 heading into Nottingham by The_Train

Things were getting a bit hectic around the station by now and pretty much all of the MML services expected over the previous couple of hours had been cancelled. This was scuppering my end of day plans to grab a HST ride to Leicester on my way home so I was having to keep a close eye on RTT. There was still enough at Nottingham to just about keep me interested and 156401 was soon heading into the book, along with 153376. That said, even though it was a very busy station, in terms of footfall) there didn't seem to be a continuous coming and going of trains (probably not helped by the MML issue) and lots of trains were departing full and standing particularly the local stopper to Leicester which meant this was never an alternative option. 158780 was yet another unit to arrive empty and depart with an overcrowding issue before I had more luck with the 156s as 156413 took me to within 4 of completing the EMT 156 units. However, that wasn't going to be happening today as I'd found that the 1712 to St Pancras was running and as much as the 1745 I'd planned to catch was still showing as active, I'd easily worked out that it would either depart very late or be cancelled as there was no incoming set that could actually provide the service. On this basis the 1712 became my choice of escape even though it was pathed as a 222 set and I'd miss out on the HST ride. Before this though, there was more loco action due through and soon enough the Immingham to Ratcliffe Power Station turn was passing through with dud 66788 at the helm before another dud, in the form of 60100, arrived for a crew change working the Humber Oil to Kingsbury run
DB class 60 60100 pauses at Nottingham by The_Train

The incoming stock of my route out of Nottingham was now delayed so this gave me time to chalk off a Northern unit as 158795 arrived working a service to Leeds. I'd also caught sight of the crowd awaiting the now delayed 1712 service and it was a little bit off putting so I'd started to consider whether to jump on the XC service to Birmingham and to spend a bit of time at Derby on route home. A quick PNB gave me the necessary thinking time and I decided to head across to platform 7 and decide whether to cram on dependent on what unit actually turned up. My mind was made up not so long later as a sound we all love was heard and a HST set showed it's face with dud for sight, winner for haulage 43047 leading the way into Nottingham and winner for everything 43044 leading us back out and I can say 'us' as I somehow found myself ideally positioned for quick boarding and managed to grab myself a table seat (I had to share with an excited group heading for a night out in Leicester but could have been a lot worse). Not to forget that all of the coaching stock on this set being logged as winners made it a decent end to my time at Nottingham and despite some slow progress we soon made it to Leicester
EMT HST power car 43044 at Leicester by The_Train


No sooner had I watched the HST I'd travelled on depart, another one arrived being lead by dud 43046 and there was another set of coaching stock to chalk off along with the power car at the rear which turned out to be winner 43073. Whilst grabbing what I'd realised was my first drink since my morning coffee (hazelnut praline latte from Costa is unreal by the way), 66602 passed through with another 66/6 not far behind as dud 66613 worked a Dagenham to Earles Sidings in the Hope Valley turn. A bonus at Leicester was that track machine DR73118 was sat in the sidings and with the issues on the MML slowly being solved, I also got to see another HST set but unfortunately it turned out to be the set powered by 43058 and 43048 which I'd seen earlier in the day....I think this is my first set of coaching stock duds. A couple of dud 170s came and went before I hopped on 170106, another haulage winner, for the trip to Nuneaton where there was slim pickings. A couple of dud sheds passed through along with another FLR 70 - if FLR could loan some of these off Colas that would be nice :) I was able to grab 153364 as it worked the WMT shuttle between Nuneaton and Coventry - just 18 of the WMT units to find now! DR73930 was sat in the sidings as it had been when I visited in September and with little else going on I jumped on 350113 to add this to the winners for haulage today. I was going to take this all the way home but for no reason other than I could, I bailed at Tamworth and waited for the evening Pendolino for the final leg of the journey which turned out to be 390114 and made it a full set of haulage winners for the day. I didn't hang around at Stafford as I was cold, tired and hungry so it was straight home and another venture completed.

Who doesn't like Mondays? - Monday 3rd December 2018

The previous Monday had not been too bad with a few new 66s and the rake of 68s passing through so I decided to repeat it on the Monday just gone. Yet again, it took an hour to get going as the opening period was littered with dud sheds and 325004 still working test runs to Rugby. But it was to be the favourite working from Toton to Crewe that got things going as GBRf 66770 was at the helm of a rake of empty engineering wagons. It was a working from Norwich to Gresty Bridge that had caught my eye today and after a few more duds it was a lovely pairing of DRS 37s and even though they both have the same livery there was a clear contrast between their colourings (I will let you guess which one had been on RHTT duty). The glorious sight was made even better as both locos were required so it was a nice feeling to mark off 37716 and 37405, nearly as nice as the feeling when listening to them depart
DRS Class 37 37716 at Stafford with 37405 by The_Train
DRS Class 37 37405 at Stafford by The_Train

I hung around a little bit longer, mainly in the hope of a winning 66/6 being on the Bow Depot to Tunstead turn but no such luck as dud 66619 (I'd seen it previously sat at Earles Sidings on my trip to Yorkshire recently) lead it through. That was enough for me to call it a day and that brings us nicely up to date with my outings so I will complete with and quick summary of these 3 outings

Sight Summary

Winners: 38 (62 including coaching stock)
Classes completed: N/A
Sub classes completed: N/A

Haulage Summary

Winners: 7
Total Mileage: 141 miles
Classes completed: N/A
Sub classes completed: N/A

The Glasgow trip planned for this week has been delayed due to the threat of some bad weather this week (not really materialised as always). I currently have it planned for next week but will know better later when I do a check of my financial situation.
 

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If you are worried about being on Nottingham station without a ticket, then get a Robin Hood Day ticket from the tram ticket machine. Last time I was at Nottingham the main entrance has barriers but there is an entrance from the car park, from the tram stop & from the street which don't have barriers.


Sounded like a good trip to Nottingham for your book of sights anyhow :)
 
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Some more good stuff, train. I agree on Nottingham, whenever I went I found I walked round a lot but an ever actually felt I was seeing that much, or that there were masses of people on the station.

Most places will happily let you in if you mention you're there to take photos/spot, worst case scenario just buy the cheapest day return on offer, then you've got a ticket in and out sorted if asked.
 

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Anyone know what these are
The first train Crewe to Sellafield will be a train of nuclear flasks being taken to British Nuclear Fuels for reprocessing

The second train Shrewsbury to Shrewsbury will I would guess be a PWay train probably at this time of year clearing the tracks of leaves as you will note from the operational dates this train runs during the leaf fall season.
 

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A couple of profitable days at the local and a good trip out to Nottingham there Mr Train, roping in a days worth of winners for haulage too. I agree you gotta keep moving at Nottingham, especially when your roping in HST stock too.
I really need to get my butt to Toton bankside, especially with my last 60, 60093, stood there rotting away. Plus I'm brilliant at getting lost, so I'd need absolute fool proof directions, to find the bank side too.
I may try and make a day out of it between Derby Nottingham and Leicester myself, I do still need a fair few of EMT HST stock too, plus the NET trams, so if I do drag my arse that way, I may have the clearance cannons going off, if I could rope in that 60, my last 156 and Meridian. Not likely to be this year though.
If you do manage to get up to Scotland, you'll certainly make hay. Also what book you reading?
Anyway Mr Train, another good read there. Thanks for sharing.
 
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The first train Crewe to Sellafield will be a train of nuclear flasks being taken to British Nuclear Fuels for reprocessing

The second train Shrewsbury to Shrewsbury will I would guess be a PWay train probably at this time of year clearing the tracks of leaves as you will note from the operational dates this train runs during the leaf fall season.
Cheers
 

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If you are worried about being on Nottingham station without a ticket, then get a Robin Hood Day ticket from the tram ticket machine. Last time I was at Nottingham the main entrance has barriers but there is an entrance from the car park, from the tram stop & from the street which don't have barriers.


Sounded like a good trip to Nottingham for your book of sights anyhow :)

I saw the entrance to the car park (assume you are also referring to the one that leads to and from platform 7?) but didn't realise there are others. Seems a bit daft to have barriers when there are multiple alternative exits for people to use.
 

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Some more good stuff, train. I agree on Nottingham, whenever I went I found I walked round a lot but an ever actually felt I was seeing that much, or that there were masses of people on the station.

That pretty much sums up Nottingham although I felt there were lots of people around particularly during rush hour period but that might have been the MML issues forcing everyone onto the same trains. There were certainly lots of people around to look at me in that bemused way when I bounced down the platform in a mass of excitement because I'd seen a 50 pulling in ;):E

Most places will happily let you in if you mention you're there to take photos/spot, worst case scenario just buy the cheapest day return on offer, then you've got a ticket in and out sorted if asked.

Yeah I'd thought they'd probably just let me in but was unsure about taking the risk of driving there only to be refused entry. Thinking about it, I suppose I could just have a backup plan to visit some of the smaller local stations if I was refused entry through barriers to my planned destination.
 

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A couple of profitable days at the local and a good trip out to Nottingham there Mr Train, roping in a days worth of winners for haulage too. I agree you gotta keep moving at Nottingham, especially when your roping in HST stock too.
I really need to get my butt to Toton bankside, especially with my last 60, 60093, stood there rotting away. Plus I'm brilliant at getting lost, so I'd need absolute fool proof directions, to find the bank side too.
I may try and make a day out of it between Derby Nottingham and Leicester myself, I do still need a fair few of EMT HST stock too, plus the NET trams, so if I do drag my arse that way, I may have the clearance cannons going off, if I could rope in that 60, my last 156 and Meridian. Not likely to be this year though.
If you do manage to get up to Scotland, you'll certainly make hay. Also what book you reading?
Anyway Mr Train, another good read there. Thanks for sharing.

Yeah I need to do Toton bank as well. Need some bino's first though so will be next year before I do so as well. I was worried about getting lost as well but looking on Google maps it looks pretty easy once you navigate the housing estate. Don't know what parking on the estate is like but that might be easier than walking from the park and ride. I still need quite a few of the HST stock as well (was hoping for more reward on this last week) so will need to revisit the area at some point. Not spent a long period of time at Derby since I was a kid - is it any good over a long period of time?

Oh and the book I was reading (I finished it during my last stint at the local) was "The Liar" by Steve Cavanagh. It's a thriller that keeps you thinking right until the end. I would also recommend "Thirteen" by the same author - it's another thriller and it's very well written with a storyline unlike any I've ever read before
 

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Yeah I need to do Toton bank as well. Need some bino's first though so will be next year before I do so as well. I was worried about getting lost as well but looking on Google maps it looks pretty easy once you navigate the housing estate. Don't know what parking on the estate is like but that might be easier than walking from the park and ride. I still need quite a few of the HST stock as well (was hoping for more reward on this last week) so will need to revisit the area at some point. Not spent a long period of time at Derby since I was a kid - is it any good over a long period of time?

Oh and the book I was reading (I finished it during my last stint at the local) was "The Liar" by Steve Cavanagh. It's a thriller that keeps you thinking right until the end. I would also recommend "Thirteen" by the same author - it's another thriller and it's very well written with a storyline unlike any I've ever read before

I have some bino's so that wouldn't be a problem, I'd advise a butcher's on eBay. There's some relatively good ones and they're quite reasonably priced too.
I doubt I'd stay that long at Derby, maybe see if there's any EMT dogboxes kicking about and XC 170s, before scampering to Nottingham for a bit and a sojourn past RTC and In hope of roping in some HST stock and any of the 4 or 5 EMT units required, i'd forgot i need some 153s too.
Sounds a canny book, a book I would reccommend is Complicity by Iain Banks.
 

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I was worried about getting lost as well but looking on Google maps it looks pretty easy once you navigate the housing estate. Don't know what parking on the estate is like but that might be easier than walking from the park and ride.

It's pretty easy to do and only a couple of minutes from M1. I usually park either near or on (it's a biggie) the roundabout at the end of Banks Road - never had an issue ; very easy.

At least it is easier to reach Toton bank these days with the tram (for non-drivers)

Interesting you say that Mr Kite. When I look at Google maps, it doesn't actually look too much of a walk from Long Eaton (a mile or two maybe ?) but doesn't seem to be alot of people around who have done it.
 

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Interesting you say that Mr Kite. When I look at Google maps, it doesn't actually look too much of a walk from Long Eaton (a mile or two maybe ?) but doesn't seem to be alot of people around who have done it.

I have. It's about a 15/20 minute walk. Not great in winter as it's slippery and muddy.
 

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The walk from Long Eaton station to Toton bank (there and back) takes a considerable chunk of time out of a visit.
The walk from Toton tram stop is quicker but I would advise wellies at this time of year.
 

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I have some bino's so that wouldn't be a problem, I'd advise a butcher's on eBay. There's some relatively good ones and they're quite reasonably priced too.
I doubt I'd stay that long at Derby, maybe see if there's any EMT dogboxes kicking about and XC 170s, before scampering to Nottingham for a bit and a sojourn past RTC and In hope of roping in some HST stock and any of the 4 or 5 EMT units required, i'd forgot i need some 153s too.
Sounds a canny book, a book I would reccommend is Complicity by Iain Banks.

Ebay is a great shout for bino's - I never seem to think about eBay these days. Am I looking for anything in particular when it comes to binoculars for use on the railways (I have no other use for them) or are they all pretty much the same?
 

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The Glasgow trip planned for this week has been delayed due to the threat of some bad weather this week (not really materialised as always). I currently have it planned for next week but will know better later when I do a check of my financial situation.

Glasgow is on for next Thursday so I get one final outing for 2018 before an end of year review.
 

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As I have mentioned before it is odd that with so many entrances to Nottingham Station they just have barriers on the main front entrance.
 

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I got held up by a swan on the tracks once on the WCML out of London. Lots of blue lights on the overbridge
 

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Just a few little updates from recent visits locally, starting with Thursday 6th December where I'd seen a working of interest in the afternoon. I had an appointment in town so timed my walk across to coincide with this move passing through and it transpired to be 47854 working 0M43 1019 Southall to Carnforth Steamtown. Having nailed that winner I decided to make an unplanned visit to the local upon my return from town but the 90 minutes I spent there was just dud after dud. Summary of my logs below (note that I didn't log Pendos, Voyagers or 350s):

DBC - 66005, 66117, 90028, 90036
DRS - 66305
FLR - 66537, 66952, 70007, 70015
GBRf - 66709, 66752
NR - 43014, 43062
WCRC - 47854

DB 66117 passes Stafford by The_Train

A quiet Friday lead me to Tamworth the next day (7th). I'd seen quite a few workings that were worth a look at the local but decided to open up chances of success by visiting Tamworth to see if anything interesting passed through the high levels. 350110 was my steed for the journey down the Trent Valley so at least I'd chalked another off for haulage if nothing else came of the few hours here. It wasn't nothing that came off but it was slim pickings and my reward for facing the icy wind travelling across Tamworth was two more shed going into the book. 66568 was first as it worked containers towards Trafford Park having travelled from Felixstowe and this was followed a short while later by 66549, also working containers, but towards the Freightliner terminal at Garston. There was plenty of other action through the upper and lower levels but nothing that troubled the book of sights, meaning I still have the 2x HST power cars and 2x 170 units remaining to complete the XC set. Another summary of my logs from Tamworth (again the Pendos, Voyagers that didn't stop and 350s weren't logged) are below:

DBC - 60015, 60019, 66027, 66177, 90028
DRS - 66305, 88001
FLR - 66416, 66516, 66549, 66568, 66603, 66605, 70006, 90048
GBRf - 66709, 92043
LNWR - 350110
VTWC - 390129
XC - 170101, 170104, 170108, 170111, 170112, 170116, 170117, 170397, 170522, 170523, 170638, 220016, 220030, 221135

I did manage a final success in the shape of 390129 as another Pendolino gets the red treatment and is chalked off for haulage.

As the previous 2 Mondays had thrown up some nice treats at the local, I thought I'd chance my arm again yesterday (10th) and head down for a couple of hours. As ever there was a particular working, this one being a loco movement towards Leicester L.I.P, that I had my eye on. The duds came by first, 66709 being one of them and it still eludes me for a photo even though it has been on the same working for the last week or so.....if only I had a memory :rolleyes: We were also blessed with a nuclear movement but this was worked by dud 68s 005 and 002. The Toton to Crewe engineers working has been my friend on a regular basis but even this had failed me in recent times. Not this evening though, it didn't just throw up a singular winner it threw up a double whammy and a particularly nice whammy at that
66746 at Stafford by The_Train
66746 at Stafford by The_Train

Yes, it served me up 66746 in its Belmond Royal Scotsman livery with "Jayne", more popularly referred to as 66708, in support with both of these going into the book of sights
GBRf 66708 at Stafford by The_Train

70020 quickly followed (photo available on my flickr) this through but I simply just have to admire the sight and sound of the FLR 70s these days with them being cleared for sight. There wasn't much else to see except for the loco working I'd visited to see which was running nearly an hour late having had an unschefuled rest at Preston. I stuck it out though, battling near arctic temperatures, only to be disappointed when the very dud 37800 came and went in the blink of an eye. So that was that, it was a case of heading home to stave off the frostbite developing on my feet. Summary of sightings for the few hours at the local (minus Pendos, Voyagers and 350s) are below:

DBC - 90028, 90036
DRS - 68002, 68005
Europhoenix - 37800
FLR - 66539, 66543, 66562, 70010, 70015, 70020, 90042
GBRf - 66708, 66709, 66746, 92043

Sight Summary

Winners: 5
Classes completed: N/A
Sub classes completed: N/A

Haulage Summary

Winners: 2
Total Mileage: 46 miles
Classes completed: N/A
Sub classes completed: N/A

Next up is my trip north of the border on Thursday 13th December 2018 :E
(just need to decide how many pairs of socks to wear)
 
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