Advance ticket following Eurostar arrival

[BRM]

I'm travelling from Paris to St Pancras and then onto south Wales with GWR. Would an advance ticket be valid on a later service if the Eurostar arrival is delayed? I have booked the Eurostar so a through ticket is not an option.

 

[Wallsendmag]

Is there not a London Eurostar to South Wales option?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

If it's Cardiff, there is a CIV ticket called Euro High Saver which is available single for £65.20 ( assuming no railcard discounts are available to you - it would be £43.05 with a railcard ) and would allow you on any train; it'll be available to other South Wales stations for a similar price.

Origin code is 5470 ( London International CIV ) but you will have to show proof of your Eurostar booking when buying it.

 

[johnnychips]

Is there not a London Eurostar to South Wales option?

I make it £65.20 from London International LNE to Cardiff on brfares. This seems to be valid on any train if you can buy it, and would give you CIV protection if you got stuck in London. The Man in Seat 61 explains it better than I could.

Edit:

Peter - snap!

 

[Mag_seven]

Would an advance ticket be valid on a later service if the Eurostar arrival is delayed?

You take the risk with an advance so no. Best advice is to purchase the CIV ticket described rather than an advance.

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

Advance fares to/from London International CIV are available for certain destinations. I have previously bought them at a Virgin ticket office (and used them). However they are not set for destinations towards Cardiff (GWR territory). The nearest you could get would be somewhere like Birmingham with a Virgin-set Advance.

 

[30907]

AFAIK it is ATOC policy that inward journeys on ES are treated the same as any other: they will be accepted on a later train if there is evidence of the delay.

However I have no personal experience of this - do others?

 

[SickyNicky]

It's worth pointing out that the EU has recently decided:

To avoid passengers being left stranded after a missed connection, MEPs clarified that in the case that a passenger has been issued several tickets for a multi-leg journey, the rights to information, assistance and compensation are the same as under a through-ticket.

Of course, Brexit may have some impact on this, but this appears to give the same protection on split international tickets that we currently have on split domestic tickets.

 

[30907]

It's worth pointing out that the EU has recently decided:


Of course, Brexit may have some impact on this, but this appears to give the same protection on split international tickets that we currently have on split domestic tickets.

I would check with the Man in Seat 61. Unless something has changed, it only applies If the tickets are booked in one transaction, and the likes of Thello are not covered.

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

It's worth pointing out that the EU has recently decided:


Of course, Brexit may have some impact on this, but this appears to give the same protection on split international tickets that we currently have on split domestic tickets.

I would check with the Man in Seat 61. Unless something has changed, it only applies If the tickets are booked in one transaction, and the likes of Thello are not covered.

I have made a new thread on this subject.

 

[johnnychips]

Whatever ticket you have, make sure the train manager on Eurostar stamps the Eurostar ticket if your train is going to be delayed. If he/she doesn’t walk down the train, ask at the bar and they will get them. We had a through ticket to Doncaster once tied to a particular train at Kings X. When the Eurostar was delayed, permission to travel on the next train was given without question on production of the stamped ticket. Another time we had to spend a night in London because of a delay (Eurostar refunded hotel), and once again there was no problem at all getting permission to travel next day.

 

[30907]

Whatever ticket you have, make sure the train manager on Eurostar stamps the Eurostar ticket if your train is going to be delayed. If he/she doesn’t walk down the train, ask at the bar and they will get them. We had a through ticket to Doncaster once tied to a particular train at Kings X. When the Eurostar was delayed, permission to travel on the next train was given without question on production of the stamped ticket. Another time we had to spend a night in London because of a delay (Eurostar refunded hotel), and once again there was no problem at all getting permission to travel next day.

That confirms my theoretical understanding. The only qualification is that you must allow sufficient (as defined by online journey planners) cross London connection time.

 

[A Challenge]

That confirms my theoretical understanding. The only qualification is that you must allow sufficient (as defined by online journey planners) cross London connection time.

Which for LONDON INTERNATIONAL (CIV) to LONDON PADDINGTON appears to be 35 + 40 + 15 = 90 minutes

 

[Crossforth]

Hey guys,

Rather than starting a new thread I thought I would hijack this one.

How do I book a CIV ticket?

Not sure yet whether it'll be from Leeds or Liverpool but either way it'll be to London so I can get on a Eurostar which I have already booked.

I only learnt about CIV earlier and I inspect tickets for a living :P

Cheers

 

[ForTheLoveOf]

You can't get CIV tickets for domestic British journeys anywhere except at a ticket office (well, or on a knowledgeable and helpful guard's ticket machine!). It used to be possible to get them online at a limited number of retailers; however, this was stopped as some passengers were using CIV tickets in a way they were not intended to be used (bearing in mind CIV tickets generally have fewer restrictions than equivalently priced non-CIV tickets).

Staff are now instructed only to issue CIV tickets to passengers who produce a valid Eurostar ticket.

 

[Crossforth]

You can't get CIV tickets for domestic British journeys anywhere except at a ticket office (well, or on a knowledgeable and helpful guard's ticket machine!). It used to be possible to get them online at a limited number of retailers; however, this was stopped as some passengers were using CIV tickets in a way they were not intended to be used (bearing in mind CIV tickets generally have fewer restrictions than equivalently priced non-CIV tickets).

Staff are now instructed only to issue CIV tickets to passengers who produce a valid Eurostar ticket.

Fantastic.

I'll drop in on Lime St ticket office tomorrow after work then

Thanks for the help

 

[mad_rich]

It used to be possible to get them online at a limited number of retailers

Still available on Raileasy.