Cityfox Bus

Robertj21a · 23 Nov 2018

embers25 said:
It was to highlight your unhealthy obsession with this (which is reaching trolling levels given the purely one sided usually rehashed arguments you post). It just comes across as envy and just because you can articulate your responses well, doesn't make your responses any less troll-like. Rhys could win operator of the year and you'd still find a fault somewhere, it's just so childish.

I think you may find that a number of people have concerns similar to those often expressed by nesw. It's certainly nothing to do with 'envy'.

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Galaxy · 6 Dec 2018

How's the new venture in Newport going with Foxstar?

spw24 · 6 Dec 2018

getting in the way of Severn Express departures from Newport.

Bwsbro · 6 Dec 2018

spw24 said:
getting in the way of Severn Express departures from Newport.

Nat used to park vehicles on that stand throughout most of the day, which didnt cause too much problems

anthony263 · 7 Dec 2018

Galaxy said:
How's the new venture in Newport going with Foxstar?

The locals seem to be very happy and keep pestering rhys to run other routes in newport

anthony263 · 7 Dec 2018

anthony263 said:
The locals seem to be very happy and keep pestering rhys to run other routes in newport

Maybe the bloke has made mistakes but we have had others in South Wales shamrock st David's travel etc have all had had reputations but also had good loyalty from locals. Hopefully the Newport operations will go well and allow thus to prove he is redeeming himself etc

nesw · 7 Dec 2018

The TC has published that they are not taking any action against the licence of Snowdonia and Nick Siddaway retains his repute. The application for an increase in the Snowdonia licence appears to still be ‘under consideration’.

It must be quite expensive to run the Newport service commercially , those buses aren’t cheap?

anthony263 · 7 Dec 2018

They do seem to be carrying a fair number of passengers

carlberry · 7 Dec 2018

nesw said:
The TC has published that they are not taking any action against the licence of Snowdonia and Nick Siddaway retains his repute. The application for an increase in the Snowdonia licence appears to still be ‘under consideration’.

It must be quite expensive to run the Newport service commercially , those buses aren’t cheap?

The buses quoted above are likely to have had a bit of deprecation already and are likely to hold their value (or have lower rental charges if rented) so would appear to be a good compromise between cost and trying to give a good image. NAT had much newer buses on their Newport services (as well as older deckers).

nesw · 7 Dec 2018

Traveline still doesn’t have the timetable uploaded.

carlberry · 7 Dec 2018

nesw said:
Traveline still doesn’t have the timetable uploaded.

Traveline Wales rarely bother to upload timetables on time. The recent Traws changes were missing for nearly a month.

Jordan Adam · 7 Dec 2018

carlberry said:
The buses quoted above are likely to have had a bit of deprecation already and are likely to hold their value (or have lower rental charges if rented) so would appear to be a good compromise between cost and trying to give a good image. NAT had much newer buses on their Newport services (as well as older deckers).

Allegedly they were bought for £125K each. It will be interesting to see what happens when a breakdown occurs... :lol:

nesw · 7 Dec 2018

I was reckoning around 80k each or about £700 per week leased. With fuel, drivers wages etc it does start to look very expensive. I’m guessing that Newport Council also want a departures fee for using the bus station?

Jordan Adam · 7 Dec 2018

nesw said:
I was reckoning around 80k each or about £700 per week leased. With fuel, drivers wages etc it does start to look very expensive. I’m guessing that Newport Council also want a departures fee for using the bus station?

If i'm not mistaken they already had B7RLEs operating under another one of their many brands.

Bwsbro · 8 Dec 2018

They have former Ferryhill Motors (Hire Company) opedated by some Stagecoach divisions then Wheelers SF08RRO. This has a Cityfox livery

carlberry · 8 Dec 2018

Bwsbro said:
Nat used to park vehicles on that stand throughout most of the day, which didnt cause too much problems

It does appear an odd choice given the service has a large stand time and other stands have lower occupancy, almost as if it was allocated that stand as it's the furthest away from Newport Transport's services! To be fair the Severn Express isn't supposed to operate from that stand either as (according to the 'find your bus' posters in the bus station) it's supposed to be used by the X7 and nothing has changed since 2015!

Smethwickian · 8 Dec 2018

carlberry said:
To be fair the Severn Express isn't supposed to operate from that stand either as it's supposed to be used by the X7 and nothing has changed since 2015!

The Severn Express IS the X7, surely? That's the number used as well as branding as far as I can see, anyway.

Observer · 8 Dec 2018

Bwsbro said:
They have former Ferryhill Motors (Hire Company) opedated by some Stagecoach divisions then Wheelers SF08RRO. This has a Cityfox livery

Are you sure about that? Sure it was given back to Wheelers after a period of time, pictures online show the bus is now white rather than blue or orange.

I do commend Rhys for giving things a bash though, it's something that people (myself included) would enjoy having the opportunity to do so if they ever have the disposable funds. Maybe one day...

Dai Corner · 8 Dec 2018

Smethwickian said:
The Severn Express IS the X7, surely? That's the number used as well as branding as far as I can see, anyway.

No. The X7 is Bristol - Weston-super-Mare via almost everywhere in between. Before that it was used for Bristol - Newport and before that for many years was Bristol-Clevedon.

The number now associated with the Bristol-Newport Severn Express service is 7XP.

philthetube · 9 Dec 2018

nesw said:
I was reckoning around 80k each or about £700 per week leased. With fuel, drivers wages etc it does start to look very expensive. I’m guessing that Newport Council also want a departures fee for using the bus station?

possibly, also depends on how keen Newport are to have the services though.

Dai Corner · 9 Dec 2018

philthetube said:
possibly, also depends on how keen Newport are to have the services though.

I doubt if Newport City Council are very keen on Cityfox as they're competing with their municipal operator.

RhysHand · 9 Dec 2018

Dai Corner said:
I doubt if Newport City Council are very keen on Cityfox as they're competing with their municipal operator.

We were given quite a welcoming response considering.

RhysHand · 9 Dec 2018

philthetube said:
possibly, also depends on how keen Newport are to have the services though.

Every operator pays 74p per departure.

nesw · 3 Jan 2019

Foxstar Newport have tweeted a rather generous special offer with a weekly ticket reduced to £5 (previously £12) for the whole of January 2019.

6Gman · 4 Jan 2019

Dai Corner said:
I doubt if Newport City Council are very keen on Cityfox as they're competing with their municipal operator.

I don't think they would be allowed to take any discriminatory action as it would breach competition law. The bus operation will be at "arms length" and entirely separate from the rest of the Council.

Dai Corner · 4 Jan 2019

6Gman said:
I don't think they would be allowed to take any discriminatory action as it would breach competition law. The bus operation will be at "arms length" and entirely separate from the rest of the Council.

True. Though it's worth noting that neither Foxstar nor NAT operate from the Friars Walk bus station where they could compete more effectively with Newport Transport. I don't know whether the City Council own/control Friars Walk though.

nesw · 4 Jan 2019

The timetable for the Newport route still isn’t listed by Traveline, therefore it’s also missing on other apps’/websites.

Mwanesh · 4 Jan 2019

carlberry said:
It does appear an odd choice given the service has a large stand time and other stands have lower occupancy, almost as if it was allocated that stand as it's the furthest away from Newport Transport's services! To be fair the Severn Express isn't supposed to operate from that stand either as (according to the 'find your bus' posters in the bus station) it's supposed to be used by the X7 and nothing has changed since 2015!

I applaud Cityfox for using a different stand from Newport Bus .Its better than Phil Anslow who in his fight with Stagecoach wants to use the same stand.Wish you all the best in your venture.

carlberry · 4 Jan 2019

nesw said:
The timetable for the Newport route still isn’t listed by Traveline, therefore it’s also missing on other apps’/websites.

Somebody obviously just fixed it.
Go to https://www.traveline.cymru/timetables/
Type in one
Press return:
https://www.traveline.cymru/uploads/OmniPDF/OWPDF__Snowdonia_Travel-One-1/OneSTA1.pdf

RhysHand · 4 Jan 2019

carlberry said:
Somebody obviously just fixed it.
Go to https://www.traveline.cymru/timetables/
Type in one
Press return:
https://www.traveline.cymru/uploads/OmniPDF/OWPDF__Snowdonia_Travel-One-1/OneSTA1.pdf

Interesting. Thanks for the link - will try to get the op co changed to FoxStar too.

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