TPE Nova 1 Class 802/2 Progress

[sprinterguy]

They'll be as common as 185s.

They won't, because as samuelmorris notes in the post above yours, half of the four services per hour through York will be worked by class 68s and mark 5s.

 

[driver9000]

They won't, because as samuelmorris notes in the post above yours, half of the four services per hour through York will be worked by class 68s and mark 5s.

What I meant was they will be a daily sight not a literal 1 for 1 sighting.

 

[LittleAH]

If the TPE 802s are just the same as GWR's, why is there any need for endurance tests for its fleet?
Aren't they just another batch of an existing approved type?

They're not exactly the same.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

They're not exactly the same.

What's different in a dynamic sense (ie forgetting interiors)?
Are the vehicles still 26m long?

 

[sprinterguy]

What I meant was they will be a daily sight not a literal 1 for 1 sighting.

Ah yes, very true!

 

[paddyb6]

Whats on tonight's test? 802201+202 or just 201 or 202?
Thanks in Advance

 

[paddyb6]

5Q80 Doncaster to Mirfield
5Q81 Mirfield to Crewe

TPE Class 802 'Nova 1' Test Run
Activated

 

[paddyb6]

TPE Class 802 201+202 passing Alderley Edge last night:

 

[sprinterguy]

TPE Class 802 201+202 passing Alderley Edge last night:

Thanks for posting that, never expected to see footage of TPE 802s just a handful of miles from where I am!

 

[paddyb6]

Thanks for posting that, never expected to see footage of TPE 802s just a handful of miles from where I am!

No probs!

 

[55z]

My photo of 802 202/201 passing through Huddersfield on Thursday night.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/fenaybridge/46641412692/in/dateposted-public/

 

[Jonny]

So, what are/were the mileage targets and how far along are the TPE 802s ()?

TPE Class 802 201+202 passing Alderley Edge last night:

Nice work; could you see if the pantographs were up?

 

[anamyd]

So, what are/were the mileage targets and how far along are the TPE 802s ()?



Nice work; could you see if the pantographs were up?

they appear to be up to me

 

[td97]

they appear to be up to me

Pantograph seems to be up with lights/monitoring equipment also on.
Can these run on diesel with the pantograph raised, or does pan up definitely mean electric running?

 

[paddyb6]

At Alderley Edge, last Friday, the Pantographs were up and the engine was off

 

[JWB_]

802 201 is sitting in Hull Paragon this morning. The first time I've seen a Class 800 of any ToC or variant and I have to say, they look really nice.

 

[Fez14]

Where’s it going? Anyone know?

 

[bnsf734]

Assuming the 802 arrived on 5Q94 from Doncaster Carr depot, Realtimetrains is showing 5Q95 0914 Hull - Kings Cross this morning so looks like it is having a trip to Kings Cross (bit off route for TPX!) Currently around Newark. It then returns from Kings Cross on 5Q96, the 1248 departure back to Doncaster. Is this for mileage accumulation?

 

[sprinterguy]

Assuming the 802 arrived on 5Q94 from Doncaster Carr depot, Realtimetrains is showing 5Q95 0914 Hull - Kings Cross this morning so looks like it is having a trip to Kings Cross (bit off route for TPX!) Currently around Newark. It then returns from Kings Cross on 5Q96, the 1248 departure back to Doncaster. Is this for mileage accumulation?

That sounds like it could be a timing trial or something similar for sister First Group operation Hull Trains, ahead of them receiving their own sets.

 

[Fez14]

That sounds like it could be a timing trial or something similar for sister First Group operation Hull Trains, ahead of them receiving their own sets.

Nice idea

 

[BMIFlyer]

Performance tests on behalf of HT, running at the appropriate line speeds.

 

[realnovice]

When do we think these will be running in passenger/revenue generating service?

 

[samuelmorris]

When do we think these will be running in passenger/revenue generating service?

Late summer I think, so probably August / September assuming no setbacks (The TPE examples, the HT ones will probably follow last).

 

[js1000]

802 201 is sitting in Hull Paragon this morning. The first time I've seen a Class 800 of any ToC or variant and I have to say, they look really nice.

They look fantastic. The fluorescent blue with black colour scheme really suits the TPE 397s and 802s.

 

[Bletchleyite]

They look fantastic. The fluorescent blue with black colour scheme really suits the TPE 397s and 802s.

I think it is one of the nicest liveries around. It'd suit a rusty 142 if it came to it.

 

[Jozhua]

I think it is one of the nicest liveries around. It'd suit a rusty 142 if it came to it.

Don't say that, you'll give grayling ideas

Probably lengthen the TPE fleet by scrapping the Nova's and tagging a pacer to the back of every 185...

 

[Southern Dvr]

With Hull Trains having a lot of difficulties with their Class 180s, is it feasible that some of the TPEX examples might start their careers at Hull Trains until their own 802s are ready?

 

[samuelmorris]

With Hull Trains having a lot of difficulties with their Class 180s, is it feasible that some of the TPEX examples might start their careers at Hull Trains until their own 802s are ready?

Given the level of overcrowding on TPE, I can see it being rather unpopular to defer their introduction where they are desperately needed to help an open access operator, regardless of the shared ownership.

 

[43096]

With Hull Trains having a lot of difficulties with their Class 180s, is it feasible that some of the TPEX examples might start their careers at Hull Trains until their own 802s are ready?

Not a chance. Can you imagine the DfT reaction if stock procured for a franchised operator was late into traffic because it was bailing out an open access service?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Not a chance. Can you imagine the DfT reaction if stock procured for a franchised operator was late into traffic because it was bailing out an open access service?

Given that Chiltern got into a lot of trouble for meeting its franchise obligations by way of a "contract" to WSMR, which is a far less serious offence as it, unlike this, didn't actually cause any disadvantage to passengers, I think this would be a "serious breach penalties" situation, so isn't going to happen.