samuelmorris
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Good to hear. At least somebody out there likes them!
Watching these things go through Finsbury Park leaves me dreading journeys on them. They’ve got the same clinical bright white interiors as the Thameslink Class 700 and dreary grey seats which looks very harsh. They certainly don’t look like a nice place to spend the 3 hours or so on my regular LNER trips.
Watching these things go through Finsbury Park leaves me dreading journeys on them. They’ve got the same clinical bright white interiors as the Thameslink Class 700 and dreary grey seats which looks very harsh. They certainly don’t look like a nice place to spend the 3 hours or so on my regular LNER trips.
Spare a thought for those us whose LNER trips are usually 8 hours long!Watching these things go through Finsbury Park leaves me dreading journeys on them. They’ve got the same clinical bright white interiors as the Thameslink Class 700 and dreary grey seats which looks very harsh. They certainly don’t look like a nice place to spend the 3 hours or so on my regular LNER trips.
I see on the their website that LNER no longer mention Hull to London as being the first service. It's now London to Leeds.
Thought seats would be redSpare a thought for those us whose LNER trips are usually 8 hours long!
I definitely saw an LNER unit with grey seatsLNER will not have the grey seats. Red for Standard. As for lighting......watch this space
Like TPE, some of the LNER initial testing units from Japan (i think) come with the "standard" grey IEP interior, like what you saw, but NO units will enter revenue service with thar interior. Infact there is an 801 going around with its seats stipped to its frame and carpets removed prior to it being fitted with the new red .I definitely saw an LNER unit with grey seats
From the write ups the seats get in GWR land, saying they’re currently stripped down to their frame sounds little different to their in-revenue service state anyway!Like TPE, some of the LNER initial testing units from Japan (i think) come with the "standard" grey IEP interior, like what you saw, but NO units will enter revenue service with thar interior. Infact there is an 801 going around with its seats stipped to its frame and carpets removed prior to it being fitted with the new red .
It's not the motors that are seemingly to blame, but the transformers.as I understand it the motors on the train are causing the problem, giving off RF that is in the band that the signals pick up.
The solution was described in Modern Railways in November and quoted on page 10 of this thread, and involves modifications to both the lineside signalling and the Driving Pantograph Trailers of the units:It’s a shame to see the delays occurring to do with electronic signal interference as well as the cabling issue. Not being the most engineering minded, what sort of equipment could help shield/stop the interference or is it a case of a whole replacement of components producing the interference on Azuma’s?
According to Informed Sources the solution is to add the reactance that is missing from the Class 800 transformers. As explained last month this will involve fitting a choke (coils of copper wire on an iron core) between the transformer and the traction converter under each Driving Pantograph Transformer cars.
This raises a number of issues. Assuming space can be found in the under-frame area, and that strong enough mounting points are available, the next question is weight. I would expect a choke to weigh between one and two tonnes.
Meanwhile, Network Rail has ordered 270 Isolating Surge Protection Units (ISPU) to cover the known weakness in the Solid-State Interlocking (SSI)signalling on the ECML. These should be ready for fitting to start in January.
I thought it was the traction inverters at fault, and hence the frequency emissions came out at the traction motor end, hence every powered vehicle being modified. The quotation above suggests I may have misremembered/been misinformed about that. I recall a specific weight of 750kg being quoted, but I was sure that was per powered vehicle and thus 2.25t for a 5-car unit.It's not the motors that are seemingly to blame, but the transformers.
The solution was described in Modern Railways in November and quoted on page 10 of this thread, and involves modifications to both the lineside signalling and the Driving Pantograph Trailers of the units:
I definitely saw an LNER unit with grey seats
The seat colour is of no consequence. Red fabric won't make them any more comfortable.
From images I saw of a First Class seat being used for marketing photography, that appeared to feature a Moquette covering as opposed to standard cloth seen thus far at GWR. Maybe I’m optimistic but if that’s been done for the 1st Class seats, then someone would think to do the same for Standard also? Recent PR output certainly suggests they’re aware of the current criticism and trying to deflect or prepare.Is it just a red version of the same cloth fabric or is it a moquette like on the current LNER trains?
From images I saw of a First Class seat being used for marketing photography, that appeared to feature a Moquette covering as opposed to standard cloth seen thus far at GWR. Maybe I’m optimistic but if that’s been done for the 1st Class seats, then someone would think to do the same for Standard also? Recent PR output certainly suggests they’re aware of the current criticism and trying to deflect or prepare.
Is it just a red version of the same cloth fabric or is it a moquette like on the current LNER trains?
It's a red version of the covers used on 800/3s and 802s, not the original GWR 800/0s (this one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_802#/media/File:Class_802_Interior.jpg )Is it just a red version of the same cloth fabric or is it a moquette like on the current LNER trains?
Just seen a photo taken last week of two LNER Class 800's down at Eastleigh Works, any idea what they're doing down there?
Surely it can't be too much longer before the first one is in service
Just seen a photo taken last week of two LNER Class 800's down at Eastleigh Works, any idea what they're doing down there?
Surely it can't be too much longer before the first one is in service
From images I saw of a First Class seat being used for marketing photography, that appeared to feature a Moquette covering as opposed to standard cloth seen thus far at GWR. Maybe I’m optimistic but if that’s been done for the 1st Class seats, then someone would think to do the same for Standard also? Recent PR output certainly suggests they’re aware of the current criticism and trying to deflect or prepare.
Hello there. I've seen comments about potential 140mph running but does anyone know when the Azumas will be allowed to reach that speed?