cactustwirly
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When does this diagram end?
8th March I think?
When does this diagram end?
IW11 is a HST today, but IW12 is a 9 car IET.
Ah thanks - understand diagrams are altered today so that would be why.The HST is actually on IW10 (IW11 is the SPM Spare)
The 9 car IET is on a 802 9 car diagram (IW903) IW12 is unused today.
Apparently goes over on May 20th.Does anyone know how the IW3 weekday diagram will remain for?
Does anyone know how the IW3 weekday diagram will remain for?
Which particular service are you after because:
IW3
1A79 06.47 Penzance - Paddington
1C82 13.03 Paddington - Plymouth
1A96 16.57 Plymouth - Paddington
1C98 21.03 Paddington - Plymouth
is the LTP diagram, it’s being amended weekly by the STP so IW3 may look completely different week by week.
For example looking at the STP for 26-28 Feb it has the above workings on different diagrams:
1A79: IW9 (HST)
1C82: IW2 (HST)
1A96 & 1C98: IW960 & IW966 (802 5 Cars)
How many HSTs are left for Cotswold Line Operations?
There's about 2 diagrams that have work on the Cotswolds line
Looking at the STP diagrams for the next couple of weeks up to Fri 1st March, there are no HST diagrams over the Cotswolds Line.
Some workings picked from the three LTP diagrams mentioned in Jimms post above:
1W00 & 1W42 are now part of a 9 car IET diagram (NP64)
1D20 / 1P26 / 1W27 / 1P37 & 1W03 are all on a 9 car IET diagram (NP62).
Are there any STP changes which have permitted HSTs to run through there on Saturdays/Sundays until 1st March?
Hopefully the final week of IW8/9/10 will return to HSTs. It'd be a shame for them to go away so prematurely on runs through Oxford & the Cotswold line.
Are there any STP changes which have permitted HSTs to run through there on Saturdays/Sundays until 1st March? As there isn't any on the LTP runs.
It seems a bit dumb to take 80x sets off the West of Englands during the blockade given the service reduction. You might think more 80x would be used as they have higher seating capacity.Looks like it is the end, given that this switch has coincided with the Whiteball Tunnel blockade, which has presumably freed up a number of IETs from West Country services. That blockade continues until Friday, March 8 - with more nine-car 802s being accepted all the time - and staff said on board that last Friday's 18.22 Paddington-Hereford was the last HST - post 686 by mikeastons on the previous page.
I imagine it's to do with crewing issues, it's hard enough finding enough crew with the blockade running down here without the need to have to double man all the little 5 car pairings. Far better to use HSTs for the next 3 weeks (or indeed 9 car IETs)It seems a bit dumb to take 80x sets off the West of Englands during the blockade given the service reduction. You might think more 80x would be used as they have higher seating capacity.
Any Sunday hst diagrams?Not HST related, but for interest: GWR cannot run more 80X units on the WoE diverts.
800s (5s or 9s) cannot be diagrammed to start or finish anywhere other than North Pole, Stoke Gifford, Maliphant or a small handful of agreed outstanding locations - none of which are west of Exeter.
802 5s in pairs cannot be diagrammed via Honiton as they cannot pass another '10' formation anywhere other than Axminster. (Yes, the last one down and the first one up is diagrammed a pair, but the thinking is that there won't be anything around at those times of the day that they'll have problems crossing!)
There are not enough 802 9s in service yet to cover the service. (Just 3 diagrams throughout the entire block period: IW901, 902, 903.)
Hence so many HST diagrams for the duration of the Whiteball block!
It was annoyingly 43091+43162 both required for the year .1B15 0845 London Paddington - Swansea / 1L62 1229 Swansea - London Paddington was a HST today vice IET.
Amended STP HST diagrams due to the blockade between Exeter and Taunton.
2E37 0512 Plymouth - Exeter St Davids
2P11 0744 Exeter St Davids - Plymouth
2C71 0945 Plymouth - Penzance
2A88 1204 Penzance - Plymouth
1A93 1516 Plymouth - London Paddington
1C66 2003 London Paddington - Taunton
1A75 0616 Plymouth - London Paddington
1C50 1203 London Paddington - Taunton
1A87 1424 Taunton - London Paddington
1C60 1703 London Paddington - Taunton
1Z97 1929 Taunton - London Paddington
5Z97 2137 London Paddington - St Phillips Marsh TMD
1A77 0505 Penzance - London Paddington
1C82 1303 London Paddington - Penzance
1A81 0916 Plymouth - London Paddington
1C86 1503 London Paddington - Plymouth
2E79 2046 Plymouth - Exeter St Davids
1C97 2242 Exeter St Davids - Plymouth
1A71 0622 Taunton - London Paddington
1C74 0903 London Paddington - Plymouth
2Z80 1511 Plymouth - Penzance
2Z35 1742 Penzance - Plymouth
2C90 2028 Plymouth - Penzance
1C40 0702 Plymouth - Penzance
2A84 1000 Penzance - Plymouth
1A90 1316 Plymouth - London Paddington
1C94 1903 London Paddington - Penzance
3A08 0545 Bristol Temple Meads - Taunton
1A08 0657 Taunton - London Paddington
1C78 1103 London Paddington - Plymouth
2C84 1725 Plymouth - Penzance
2A94 1400 Penzance - Plymouth
1A97 1712 Plymouth - London Paddington
1C36 2330 London Paddington - Cardiff Central
5C36 0302 Cardiff Central - Bristol Temple Meads
3C89 1351 St Phillips Marsh TMD - London Paddington
1C89 1633 London Paddington - Penzance
mmmmm Looking at the above.. It seems 1C89 :- 1633 London Paddington - Penzance is going to be an HST for my journey in 2 weeks time (last schedule weekday Whiteball tunnel closure)
That means that my 1st Class tickets I've pre-booked in coach E (IET) are not going to happen as those seat numbers don't seem to exist on a HST!
What’s incomplete about them? The other workings starting at Penzance aren’t taking the diversionary route, hence why they aren’t there.Looks like these diagrams are incomplete, as 5 workings terminating at Penzance and only 2 starting !
Why didn’t you say that in the original post then?! If you haven’t included other workings then by definition they are incomplete.What’s incomplete about them? The other workings starting at Penzance aren’t taking the diversionary route, hence why they aren’t there.