Islamic Extremists vow to march through Wootton Bassett

[Geezertronic]

However if the march decends into something that resembles inciting hate then I would expect the authorites to take action.

And we shall await the accusations of racism should this occur...

 

[43021HST]

I fully support Islamic extremists demonstratiing in Wooton Basset.

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YOU TRAITOR!!!!!!

 

[90019]

YOU TRAITOR!!!!!!

I love some of the responses you get on here

 

[thefab444]

Whoosh. :roll:

 

[90019]

Whoosh. :roll:

Was that at me or him? :?

 

[Kneedown]

Our own civilians wouldn't be in danger if we hadn't sent our troops to invade foreign countries!.

And here's me thinking this latest round all started when Uncle Osama's hellbound minions hijacked 4 planes, slaughtered the crews, and crashed 2 into the World Trade Centre, one into the Pentagon (the fourth crashing before it reached it's target thanks to the actions of it's brave passengers) all in all causing the deaths of around 3000 innocent civilians.

Another aspect to look at is the fact that the vast majority of the worlds heroin comes from Afghanistan, killing thousands worldwide. Unfortunately our spineless, so called, government baulks at the idea of following China's excellent example of turning drug runners into worm food, and so destroying the poppy fields of Afghanistan is the next best thing to stem the supply.

 

[43021HST]

I love some of the responses you get on here

bighat knows what I mean

 

[thefab444]

Was that at me or him? :?

Him.

 

[Drsatan]

Ok ok, Anjem Choudary clearly is a fanatic and I'd advise that he goes to some remote part of Pakistan where he can indulge in his Islamic fantasies. However, he's a media-savvey fanatic: he obviously wanted the DM and other papers to pick up on plans for this march knowing it would create public outrage because it's creating publicity for his group. The march was announced on New Years Day which is normally a slow news day so the press would be more likely to focus on the planned march.

What I would like to see is that Anjem Choudary is arrested for sedition under the 1928 Sedition Act. Islam4Uk's talk about implementing Sharia law in the UK is blatantly seditious given that what they're advocating is the overthrow of democracy and the implementation of Islamic law. However, that legislation will not be used against Islam4Uk because the government's frightened of offending Muslims. After all, Geert Wilders was only barred from entering the UK in February last year because (I suspect) his prescence would have offended the Muslim lobby in this country.

 

[ralphchadkirk]

is arrested for sedition under the 1928 Sedition Act

Sedition was abolished in 2009 under the Coroners and Justice Act.

 

[Drsatan]

Sedition was abolished in 2009 under the Coroners and Justice Act.

Admittedly, Anjem Choudary has been very careful to stay within the law by not inciting racial or religious hatred under the 2006 Racial and Religious Hatred Act, but I would say that there's something deeply wrong with this government that allows a religious fanatic to openly call for the introduction of sharia law in the UK. He's been allowed to hold "Islamic roadshows" in cities up and down the UK where he preaches his particularly vile interpretation of Islam. At one in Birmingham I think he tried to "convert" a nine-year-old white lad to Islam

As I said, if he doesn't like it here he can **** off!!

 

[SouthEastern-465]

bighat knows what I mean

And so do I

 

[ralphchadkirk]

The problem is that nothing can be done until a law is broken.

 

[royaloak]

And what law did Geert Wilders break then to be refused entry into this "free" country, oh sorry I forgot that different rules apply because he is white.

 

[ralphchadkirk]

The ban on Geert Wilders was overthrown by the Asylum and Immigration Tribunal, needless to say, it shouldn't have happened.

 

[royaloak]

But the fact is it did happen, wonder if he had a different "complexion" if it would have happened?


Probably would have offered him a "council house" and a lot of advice on "benefits" he would be entitled too!

 

[Drsatan]

But the fact is it did happen, wonder if he had a different "complexion" if it would have happened?


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Well said! While Geert Wilders was barred merely for speaking out against Islamic supremacism and in favour of women's rights and democracy, while we let in a Saudi hate cleric who once said that Jews were the offspring of apes and pigs!

http://londonersdiary.standard.co.uk/2009/08/home-office-caught-out-by-hate-preacher-.html

It's likely that he was allowed in otherwise barring him from the UK would upset the Saudis. Remember in Saudi Arabia you're not allowed to be Christian, or practice any other faith other than Sunni Islam. Saudi Arabia has also funded movements across the Islamic world and the West that preach Wahhabism, a particulary vile version of Sunni Islam.

 

[the sniper]

I find this pretty funny, islam4uk don't have the guts (or aren't crazy enough) to carry out this march, they are a minority group within the Muslim community, let alone British society as a whole. Anyone with any kind of affinity to the EDL (English Defence League) would take this as a call to arms, it would no longer just be a relatively small number of small minded skinheads, it would have the manpower of a small army.

I sure as heck wouldn't want to be a Police Officer having to defend the Muslim extremists if they do show up, it won't be pretty...

 

[Oswyntail]

.... While Geert Wilders was barred merely for speaking out against Islamic supremacism and in favour of women's rights and democracy, while we let in a Saudi hate cleric who once said that Jews were the offspring of apes and pigs!
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Actually, he speaks out about Islam in general, saying he hates it, describing Mohammed as a terrorist. Like the Islamicist terrorists he claims to oppose, he focuses on texts extraneous to the central Koran which, they all claim, call for the overthrow of other cultures by Islam. Most Muslims recognise that these texts are not part of the essence of Islam, and are as wary of them and those who use them as justification for anything as we are. It would be rather like people basing their view of Christianity on Crusaders' propaganda tracts. Wilders uses his position to stir up hatred towards Islam in general, and so would be in conflict with the laws of the UK if he took his normal line here. That is why there was an attempt to ban him. This was rightly overturned because he had not committed the offence in the UK.
He states he is in favour of women's rights and democracy chiefly to contrast these with his interpretation of Islam's views in these areas. Again, the central Koran is surprisingly liberal on such matters, and it is the external texts that anyone in a Western democracy would take issue with.
IIRC, the "Saudi hate cleric" was a British citizen by birth, so deportation was not an option (of course, you could be referring to another cleric entirely - if so, let us know who).
This group does not represent mainstream Islam any more than Rumsfeld and Blair represent mainstream Christianity!

 

[Trog]

My thought is let them march through Wotton Bassett, if the people all turn out to honour those they respect. Treat these people to the reverse, let them march down a deserted street, between closed and shuttered shops. Will make them realise what people think of them, while the open space around them will make tham look small on the TV which is the last thing they want.

 

[yorkie]

... I would say that there's something deeply wrong with this government that allows a religious fanatic to openly call for the introduction of sharia law in the UK....

But from another topic....

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However, this is a free country, and I do applaud the BBC for pulling out all the stops to make sure Nick Griffin appeared on the show. It's ironic that our right to free speech has been taken away though, due to the Racial & Religious hatred act 2006 and other such punitive measures.....

I find both views equally ridiculous, but I find it very interesting that you support the right to express one side of extremist view, but not the other side of extremist view. Are you supporting the right to express extremist views or not?

 

[Old Timer]

It is both an interesting and saddening comparison that a frontline soldier in Afghanistan earns £17,004 a year compared to Choudary who claims £25,740 a year in benefits.

This individual contributes absolutely nothing to this Country in any way and is simply a drain on our welfare, social, and housing provisions.

As I understand matters, to claim these benefits, Choudary should be "actively seeking work", something I suspect he has not done, nor presumably has any intention of doing. Instead he spends his time creating disharmony, rabble rouisng and appearing in TV studios, seemingly without let or hindrance.

It says much for the attitude of this Government that the purveyors of hatred and war against the UK are paid more than those who seek to defend the UK.

One wonders if anyone will dare to look closely at Choudray's entitlement to these benefits if he is not actively seeking work, and indeed on the basis of how he spends his time, never can be, thus being in violation of the requirements to receive benefit ?

 

[Geezertronic]

One wonders if anyone will dare to look closely at Choudray's entitlement to these benefits if he is not actively seeking work, and indeed on the basis of how he spends his time, never can be, thus being in violation of the requirements to receive benefit ?

The Government should look at all cases like this regardless of whether the person is new to the country or resident. I would suggest that a complete overhaul of the benefits system would go some way to getting the country out of debt, identifying the people who genuinly need benefits, and getting the spongers (British or not) back to work.

 

[90019]

As I understand matters, to claim these benefits, Choudary should be "actively seeking work", something I suspect he has not done, nor presumably has any intention of doing.

The problem is that it's p*ss easy to show them that you're actively seeking work even if you're not, because they don't check whether you've actually applied for things you say you have.

 

[Geezertronic]

For those that think it will make a difference, there is a petition setup to stop the march:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/RespectWBassett/

 

[Old Timer]

Wrong approach.

Petition ought to call for the removal of these people from the UK or if not then Prosecution for treason.

If they hate the UK so much let them depart.

 

[Geezertronic]

Wrong approach.

Petition ought to call for the removal of these people from the UK or if not then Prosecution for treason.

If they hate the UK so much let them depart.

This would happen in the real world but in this day and age, unfortunately this is where the race card is played all too often. People like this tend to believe that you either agree with their point of view or you are racist for disagreeing with them

 

[thefab444]

Would people support a peaceful remembrance service for all the innocent civilians killed in the Afghan/Iraq Wars, not associated with a terrorist group in any way?

Trying to fathom if people are against this purely because of the extremist connections.

 

[90019]

Trying to fathom if people are against this purely because of the extremist connections.

Alleged extremist connections;

An Islamic group said to have links to an extremist movement is planning to march through the Wiltshire town of Wootton Bassett.

 

[ungreat]

Would people support a peaceful remembrance service for all the innocent civilians killed in the Afghan/Iraq Wars, not associated with a terrorist group in any way?

Trying to fathom if people are against this purely because of the extremist connections.

Possibly...I live in an area of heavy Muslim population and to be perfectly honest,the great majority seem to be in favour of anything that annoys old whitey man!

Having said that,one of my greatest mates is a muslim and I couldn't find a better mate TBH..he agrees with the march and I don't..simply because it's going to drive a bigger wedge between cultures,plus I feel it's deliberately planned to cause outrage and publicity for these loonies.Which it has.