Brilliant, so shortforms all around the SDA triangle and beyond until at least May?
They're being replaced with Class 385 sets.Brilliant, so shortforms all around the SDA triangle and beyond until at least May?
Of course, they may have a bunch of 385s at the back of a cupboard somewhere that no one knows about to cover the services - although, if they do, I don't know why they didn't use one on the via Cumbernauld service that I saw a 158 on the other day.
They're being replaced with Class 385 sets.
Imagine, a peak time train being quite busy.But our 4 car 365 is replaced by a 3 car 385. At least for now in the morning. So it’s standing room by Larbert or sometimes STIRLING if an earlier cancellation from Alloa or Dunblane. So his point is valid. Short formed.
Well it isn’t really a short former as it is now booked to be a 3 car 385.
Just for the record, how long was the equivalent train when it used to also call at Polmont and Linlithgow?
Well if you replace a 4 car with a 3 car it’s a reduction in capacity.
Not by much, actually. 365 vehicles are 20m, so a 365 is 80m long and has about 240 seats. A 3-car 385 is 69m long and has 206 seats. I'd say that's a fairly insignificant difference and won't make much difference unless you get serious crush-loading.
Not by much, actually. 365 vehicles are 20m, so a 365 is 80m long and has about 240 seats. A 3-car 385 is 69m long and has 206 seats. I'd say that's a fairly insignificant difference and won't make much difference unless you get serious crush-loading.
Would it be worth starting a thread specifically for Dunblane Line woes rather than having it spread over every Scotland related thread on the forum?Remember new timetable one less service in peak. So it’s a significant reduction. Hence we need the 4 car
Would it be worth starting a thread specifically for Dunblane Line woes rather than having it spread over every Scotland related thread on the forum?
I'm perplexed as the long term plan. When Edinburgh - Glasgow goes to 8 car, I assume that will lock down the majority of the 24x 4 car sets there, so what will come of the lines that need more than 3 and less than 6?
It's been said on the 385 forum many times before.But our 4 car 365 is replaced by a 3 car 385. At least for now in the morning. So it’s standing room by Larbert or sometimes STIRLING if an earlier cancellation from Alloa or Dunblane. So his point is valid. Short formed.
Perhaps since the Dunblane services now have less stops and less opportunity to pick up passengers. So your not comparing apples with apples.a 365 has 263 seats, a 4 car 385 has 257 seats and a 3 car 204 so not sure why you think the 385 have a higher capacity?
A 3 car 385 has as many seats as a 4 car 365.
You said one thing, were called out on it being not true, then basically say that you meant something elseSo your not comparing apples with apples.
It's really quite simple. Before the Dunblane services served all stations to Edinburgh. Now they don't. The biggest problems with overcrowding were at Falkirk Grahamston, Polmont and Linlithgow. They now miss those stops and the slot is picked up by the slow Glasgow to Edinburgh services.You said one thing, were called out on it being not true, then basically say that you meant something else
Is it too early to nominate the funniest post of the year?However no doubt ScotRail know their market and passenger numbers.
right but you saidIt's really quite simple. Before the Dunblane services served all stations to Edinburgh. Now they don't. The biggest problems with overcrowding were at Falkirk Grahamston, Polmont and Linlithgow. They now miss those stops and the slot is picked up by the slow Glasgow to Edinburgh services.
So it's a hard to believe problems that Dunblane services are now overcrowded.
However no doubt ScotRail know their market and passenger numbers.
which is simply not true.A 3 car 385 has as many seats as a 4 car 365.