I haven’t had the chance to try out the units but on Thursday the one that pulled out of Newcastle, on low power, was not quiet. There was my voyager alongside and the noise from that was dreadful. So there an improvement there. But we aren’t comparing g them to the new units
For long distance I always travel first class on the EC. The mK 4 is simply stunning.in the current climate where profit come before people, it’s highly unlikely the azuma will equal the mark 4 for comfort.
I am 6ft 4 so have long legs. I’ve done a few short trips on the EC recently in second class and there’s just enough room for my legs. On a voyager it’s impossible. The mk 4 also has very supportive seats and reclined just enough for comfort in second class. It’s obvious that azuma seats are almost vertical, as are voyager seats, which are torture for me.It’s stated that second class azuma has an extra 7cm leg room. This may or may not be so. Unfortunately this is counteracted by the lack of recline of the seat.
On short journeys on a voyager I prefer to stand in the vestibule rather than be tortured in a second class straitjacket.
Given the angle or lack of it on the azuma, then it’s probably going to be the vestibule for me.
I am of a lean build. I would suggest that anyone whom is of a large built is going to have a journey from hell in a second class azuma seat dur to their upright position.
I am all for progress but in my book, this means , quicker journey times, and a more comfortable journey. I am old fashioned as it see progress from the point of view of the customer rather than these point of view of a multi national rich company
I honestly do not envisage that these new units will be superior to what we have already.
This is why I am so critical as I believe we, the taxpayer just wasting so much money for no other reason than making rich companies even richer
As passengers and taxpayers we are being used and are nothing more than pawns in the corporate world of politics
I’d love nothing more than to have a truly improving rail network. But from a passengers point of view there’s no evidence of this. I can only get a decent travelling experience in first class. In second class it’s always unsatisfying at best.
I travel a lot by rail and I call a spade a spade. I must be therefore an anachronism
For long distance I always travel first class on the EC. The mK 4 is simply stunning.in the current climate where profit come before people, it’s highly unlikely the azuma will equal the mark 4 for comfort.
I am 6ft 4 so have long legs. I’ve done a few short trips on the EC recently in second class and there’s just enough room for my legs. On a voyager it’s impossible. The mk 4 also has very supportive seats and reclined just enough for comfort in second class. It’s obvious that azuma seats are almost vertical, as are voyager seats, which are torture for me.It’s stated that second class azuma has an extra 7cm leg room. This may or may not be so. Unfortunately this is counteracted by the lack of recline of the seat.
On short journeys on a voyager I prefer to stand in the vestibule rather than be tortured in a second class straitjacket.
Given the angle or lack of it on the azuma, then it’s probably going to be the vestibule for me.
I am of a lean build. I would suggest that anyone whom is of a large built is going to have a journey from hell in a second class azuma seat dur to their upright position.
I am all for progress but in my book, this means , quicker journey times, and a more comfortable journey. I am old fashioned as it see progress from the point of view of the customer rather than these point of view of a multi national rich company
I honestly do not envisage that these new units will be superior to what we have already.
This is why I am so critical as I believe we, the taxpayer just wasting so much money for no other reason than making rich companies even richer
As passengers and taxpayers we are being used and are nothing more than pawns in the corporate world of politics
I’d love nothing more than to have a truly improving rail network. But from a passengers point of view there’s no evidence of this. I can only get a decent travelling experience in first class. In second class it’s always unsatisfying at best.
I travel a lot by rail and I call a spade a spade. I must be therefore an anachronism