Class 170401

[kidman123]

Class 170401 is still up at the head shunt at Haymarket this is 3 weeks now is there anything wrong with this unit

 

[chuff chuff]

Class 170401 is still up at the head shunt at Haymarket this is 3 weeks now is there anything wrong with this unit

One must assume so,awaiting parts or whatever.Haymarket is short of space with these hst sets,401 has been dumped well out of the road.

 

[hexagon789]

One must assume so,awaiting parts or whatever.Haymarket is short of space with these hst sets,401 has been dumped well out of the road.

I could've sworn I saw 401 out on Monday working with another unit into Edinburgh at about 0820.

 

[Highlandspring]

I could've sworn I saw 401 out on Monday working with another unit into Edinburgh at about 0820.

It has been at Haymarket shed since the 15th of May.

 

[hexagon789]

It has been at Haymarket shed since the 15th of May.

Must've been something else - 410 perhaps and I've mixed the 0 and 1 up.

 

[kidman123]

Still there am I right and saying that unit was the first 170 in Scotland I kind taking it for my job when the unit first came in 1997. A nice Dundee to Edinburgh where I met my now wife how times change eh.

 

[hexagon789]

Still there am I right and saying that unit was the first 170 in Scotland I kind taking it for my job when the unit first came in 1997. A nice Dundee to Edinburgh where I met my now wife how times change eh.

Don't know of it was the very first one but certainly it's of the original "Express" batch of 170/4 units. Also, I thought the first 170s entered service in 1999 on Edinburgh-Glasgow?

 

[Highlandspring]

Still there am I right and saying that unit was the first 170 in Scotland I kind taking it for my job when the unit first came in 1997. A nice Dundee to Edinburgh where I met my now wife how times change eh.

402 was the first ScotRail unit to arrive in the country (as a two car) in 1999 with 401 following a couple of weeks later (as a four car with 402’s centre car).

 

[hexagon789]

402 was the first ScotRail unit to arrive in the country (as a two car) in 1999 with 401 following a couple of weeks later (as a four car with 402’s centre car).

Did they enter passenger serviceslike like than or were they reformed?

 

[kidman123]

Sorry upon seeing the wiki it was 1999 god I'm old lol

 

[hexagon789]

Sorry upon seeing the wiki it was 1999 god I'm old lol

Well I'm older than ScotRail's oldest 170, but I can't remember NatEx livery

 

[Highlandspring]

Did they enter passenger serviceslike like than or were they reformed?

They were reformed before entering traffic.

 

[hexagon789]

They were reformed before entering traffic.

Ah, wasn't sure if I was imagining 2-car 170s or not.

 

[Highlandspring]

There have been a few operated as 2 cars over the years. Also a few mix-n-match sets using vehicles from two different units combined.

 

[hexagon789]

There have been a few operated as 2 cars over the years. Also a few mix-n-match sets using vehicles from two different units combined.

Presumably sets with a damaged vehicle and as with many units they use undamaged vehicles from different sets so that they aren't effectively down two units or so.

 

[Highlandspring]

Don’t forget Porterbrook’s one off speculative 2 car 170399 which NatEx leased for a while.

 

[hexagon789]

Don’t forget Porterbrook’s one off speculative 2 car 170399 which NatEx leased for a while.

Looks like effectively a ScotRail "Express" unit but without a centre car.

 

[chuff chuff]

Don’t forget Porterbrook’s one off speculative 2 car 170399 which NatEx leased for a while.

If memory serves that was an all white livery.

 

[Highlandspring]

Yes, all white with purple doors and Porterbrook branding.

 

[Highlandspring]

In fact, here’s a photo from Flickr (not mine)

https://flic.kr/p/qtquC3

 

[chuff chuff]

Aye that's the bugger.

 

[hexagon789]

Looks rather like GA livery but for the logo and doors.

 

[kidman123]

Well a wee update 401 as of yesterday still at the headshunt. That's from mid may over a full month now. Not moved or even lights on you have 417 going up there most times but that goes in service is it the case the rail safety cert expired or is it the case it has been forgot about.

 

[Highlandspring]

is it the case the rail safety cert expired or is it the case it has been forgot about.

No and no.

 

[kidman123]

So the same unit as off today is still at the headshunt seems a bit funny that it's nearly 2 months that it's sat cold there.

 

[dmkc]

Out of the headshunt now (may have been since Friday) but still sitting unloved on one of the depot roads close by

 

[SC318250]

It was still sitting in the head shunt at 1635 on Friday

 

[Class455]

Don’t forget Porterbrook’s one off speculative 2 car 170399 which NatEx leased for a while.

What became of that unit in the end?

 

[hexagon789]

What became of that unit in the end?

Renumbered 170309, went to TransPennine Express and I assume was one of the units converted to 168s now with Chiltern.

 

[Highlandspring]

Renumbered 170309, went to TransPennine Express and I assume was one of the units converted to 168s now with Chiltern.

Now 168329.