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Crossrail opening delayed (opening date not yet known)

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That shouldn't be an issue as long as it's obvious what the link is about. I think just posting a link with no supporting text is frowned upon but otherwise should be fine.
Available to re-watch online for the next 5 years "apparently" unlike many of the BBC CR documentaries.
 
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Available to re-watch online for the next 5 years "apparently" unlike many of the BBC CR documentaries.

That's good. Hopefully the BBC will change to one year in the next few weeks.

The BBC Crossrail documentaries can be found on YouTube if you search for them. I watched all the first and second series on YouTube last January.
 

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OT but 4 seasons of Chris Tarrant: Extreme Railways also available to watch on My5.
 

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Per-mile, though, as many London journeys are quite short, they can be very expensive. 1-2 mile journeys are still priced at the zone 1 all-day fare of £2.40 which means they are in excess of £1/mile. Not saying I disagree with this as I know why fares need to be priced such but 'higher fares in London' is generally a fair statement except for a few specific journeys (e.g. long journeys to zone 6 that aren't on the premium Oyster rate, such as c2c).

Yes I can confirm that. I live in London and tend to be pretty familiar with the Oyster Pay-as-you-go fares on the routes I frequently use. However it's pretty rare that I need to make journeys entirely within zone 1. So I was pretty shocked a week or so ago when I got charged £2.40 for an off-peak Holborn-Euston journey of less than a mile (and sadly, I didn't travel enough on that day for capping to come into effect).

(Ordinarily I'd walk a journey like that but in this case I was in a bit of a hurry. I think I would have still walked if I'd realised how much the fare was going to be).
 

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The Crossrail programme on Channel 5 last week didn't give us any information that we didn't know to be honest. We know that Senior management screwed up and got paid big bonuses for doing so, and that no one or no one organisation can be held responsible so it seems more of a JFDI approach now to get it done
 

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Hanwell has a station completion date of janaury 2020 put up on the westbound platform. Actual wording "26 week project starting July 2019" it doesn't look like its being made out of a material designed to last 100 years though to be honest
 

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There are many points along the system where work has effectively been given up for months. The plant yard east of Custom House seems to have a range of plant (presumably being paid for) that is has been sat idle long term. Either that or they manage to park all the plant back in exactly the same positions with the booms at exactly the same angle each time they use it. https://www.google.com/maps/@51.509...k-no-pi-0-ya236.99783-ro0-fo100!7i6912!8i3456

The work yard by London City airport looks exactly the same today, blocking off public access along the dockside, as in this May 2018 Google shot https://www.google.com/maps/@51.507...4!1s19lDR_AbPIBlcfyfP8XW5g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Just get on with it!
 

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Made a visit to the Big Smoke today, so I was able to observe the ongoing works in (and not in) progress on the Western Branch stations up to Maidenhead at platform level.

Acton Main Line and West Ealing (TfL):
Accessible footbridges are currently being installed.

Ealing Broadway (TfL):
Platform 2/3 island platform: New entrance/exit staircase in use, waiting room is now a waiting shelter.

Hanwell (TfL):
I could see nothing except the hoardings on the island platform.

Hayes & Harlington (TfL):
New eastern end platform extensions in use. Yet to see significant progress on the new station buildings, lifts etc.

West Drayton (TfL):
Yet to see significant progress on the new station building. Nothing to see except the blue hoardings. New station footbridge still incomplete; missing lift shafts.

Beyond Greater London:
Iver (TfL):
Massive building site on the southern side, at least one lift shaft appears to be in situ.
345 DOO cameras are installed. Some works ongoing with the existing platform waiting shelters.

Langley (TfL):
Accessible footbridge is half installed, walkway yet to be craned in. 345 DOO cameras are installed. Footbridge shares the same dark grey colour (and design) with the ones at Taplow and Seven Kings.

Slough (GWR):
Platform extensions nearing completion (see GW electrification thread for pictures), lamp posts not installed yet. Platforms have new GWR metal seats.

Burnham (TfL):
Station lift is now in public use. Widened entrance staircase built, removing most of the existing waiting room/ticket hall. 345 DOO cameras are installed. The proposed new station entrance with gateline appears to have been quietly dropped.

Taplow (TfL)
Accessible footbridge structure is installed, glazing is fitted, the 3 lift shafts have no outer cladding yet. 345 DOO cameras are installed. Majority of signage is still not in Johnston 100/New Johnston.

Maidenhead (GWR):
Platform extensions are a work in progress, significant height difference in the new platform extension at the western end and the existing p2/3 island platform. Should require at least a long ramp. 345 DOO cameras are currently being installed. New GWR seats installed.

TfL have put in a number of small grey cube planters at all their stations, as well as the standard wood/metal TfL platform seats in Elizabeth Line colours and new ticket machines.
 

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The latest monthly report from Mark Wild to the London Assembly Transport committee has been published on the TfL website.

The situation with the Western section stations is mentioned:
Network Rail (NR) continued delivery of their infrastructure works for Stage 5A TfL Rail services between Paddington and Reading from December 2019. Platform extensions at West Drayton are on target to be completed by the end of August, whilst extensions at Slough and Maidenhead are forecast for completion by the end of September. Previously reported delays to the installationof driver’s CCTV at Burnham, Taplow and Langley have been reviewed with NR and an action plan has been put in place for approvals before the end of August.
The outstanding design issues with the station enhancement works at Ealing Broadway station are now resolved

There are contracts also being arranged for work on the line to Shenfield:
works at Ilford and Romford stations remain on forecast for contracts to be awarded at the end of August.
 

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West Drayton (TfL):
Yet to see significant progress on the new station building. Nothing to see except the blue hoardings.

The hoarding have been there for years, probably from around the time they started work on electrification. Was the original idea that they were going to terminate some trains there in platform 5? In the event they've used Hayes, and that may have been something to do with getting the signalling to work on the Heathrow branch.

Platform 5 at West Drayton used to be for the Uxbridge and Staines branches. I doubt it will have been used for passenger services since those Branches were closed to passengers over fifty years ago.
 

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Platform 5 at West Drayton used to be for the Uxbridge and Staines branches. I doubt it will have been used for passenger services since those Branches were closed to passengers over fifty years ago.

It was used for terminating/starting trains from Paddington during disruption; right up to when it closed for rebuilding.
 

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Wasn't there also an up morning peak stopping train that went through the loop at West Drayton until relatively recently?
 

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The hoarding have been there for years, probably from around the time they started work on electrification. Was the original idea that they were going to terminate some trains there in platform 5? In the event they've used Hayes, and that may have been something to do with getting the signalling to work on the Heathrow branch.

Platform 5 at West Drayton used to be for the Uxbridge and Staines branches. I doubt it will have been used for passenger services since those Branches were closed to passengers over fifty years ago.

Well I've been on a off peak Turbo from Reading that stopped at platform 5, took me by surprise as you'd expect!

Using Google 3D satellite view you can see that the p5 loop has been re-laid and no longer meets up with the old p5 platform edge, hence the hoardings. Platform 5 is being rebuilt for the new straighter alignment and extended with p4 at the London end, this work is still ongoing. When it's all complete, I expect West Drayton p4/5 will be utilised like Maidenhead's p4/5 is today.
 

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Hanwell (TfL):
I could see nothing except the hoardings on the island platform.

Most of hanwells work is being done outside the station due to the listed status l. The eastbound platform has a lift outside the station, the westbound platforms lift. Goes into a disused waiting room (Hence the hoardings)

And there will be a glass building outside the station
 

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In an article today, Building seems to be concerned by the ongoing lack of certainty over the final cost of Crossrail.

Mark Wild says 'some elements of risk' mean full cost still not known. The final bill for completing the central section of Crossrail is still up in the air, the scheme's boss has admitted.

In his monthly update to the chair of the London Assembly's transport committee, chief executive Mark Wild said some risk needed bottoming out before he could put a firm figure on the section that links Abbey Wood in the east and Paddington in the west.

I'm hoping we won't have to wait much longer to see the next report from Jacobs. The report from period 3 has not been posted on the TfL web site yet.
 

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In an article today, Building seems to be concerned by the ongoing lack of certainty over the final cost of Crossrail.



I'm hoping we won't have to wait much longer to see the next report from Jacobs. The report from period 3 has not been posted on the TfL web site yet.
Probably more the case they they don't believe what the contractors are saying.
 

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works at Ilford and Romford stations remain on forecast for contracts to be awarded at the end of August.
"forecast to be awarded". That's August 2019. Crossrail was given the go-ahead for construction in 2009. How can contracts for straightforward station reconstruction work not even have been awarded, let alone started, 10 years later?
 

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"forecast to be awarded". That's August 2019. Crossrail was given the go-ahead for construction in 2009. How can contracts for straightforward station reconstruction work not even have been awarded, let alone started, 10 years later?
Crossrail get NR to do the work but budget is the 2010 post value engineered one so original planned scope can't be delivered within funding envelope but works weren't meant for another few years, discussion go on for years with scope decreasing and costs still rising (London construction running at almost 10% for most of the decade) till it eventually comes out that there are delays /cost over runs when things finally get realistic.
 

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"forecast to be awarded". That's August 2019. Crossrail was given the go-ahead for construction in 2009. How can contracts for straightforward station reconstruction work not even have been awarded, let alone started, 10 years later?

I do wonder!
 

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On the TfL Rail front of things, new station signs have been put up at Brentwood and Gidea Park.

The new sign is just TfL corporate blue background with white Johnston ITC font in capital letters, for example: GIDEA PARK

No TfL Rail roundel, or indeed any roundel, on the signs - presumably to remain neutral in terms of branding when the handover to Elizabeth line happens.
 

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I do wonder!
It would be as well if the London Assembly, when presented with the progress reports, actually asked such seemingly straightforward questions about what seem to be poor practices at high level in the project. Instead, apart from those of opposite political parties looking for opportunities to embarrass the Mayor, nothing ever seems to get queried.

Separately, I was just past the Canary Wharf station building for the first time for a week today. The construction boards over the station entrances are finally off, and some brand new and very substantial Bostwick gates in their place. The signage over the entrances has also been unveiled, which all looks very Underground style, no purple Elizabeth Line ones at all.

I shouted through to the orange army working on the other side of the gates "will the trains be running next week". No sense of humour ….
 
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Beyond Greater London:
Iver (TfL):
Massive building site on the southern side, at least one lift shaft appears to be in situ.
345 DOO cameras are installed. Some works ongoing with the existing platform waiting shelters.

That's a lot of cameras! ;)
 

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There is a nicely written piece on the MyLondon website with details of the progress on stations in the Central Operating Section. It also has copies of the pictures recently published on the crossrail website.

Crossrail, the team which is building the biggest railway infrastructure project in Europe, has tried to dispel those ideas by sharing the pictures of what's going on at the stations it is building.

Starting from the penultimate stop on the southeastern branch of the Elizabeth line, Woowich, we will run through the latest pictures shared by Crossrail of progress at each station.

I can't see how they believed last summer they would be finished in December. From the photos it looks like it won't be finished this December.
 

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There is a nicely written piece on the MyLondon website with details of the progress on stations in the Central Operating Section. It also has copies of the pictures recently published on the crossrail website.



I can't see how they believed last summer they would be finished in December. From the photos it looks like it won't be finished this December.
Strange typo, he /she keeps on writing 'Woowhich'. :)
Edit: Also 'Oxfords Street'.
 
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There is a nicely written piece on the MyLondon website with details of the progress on stations in the Central Operating Section. It also has copies of the pictures recently published on the crossrail website.



I can't see how they believed last summer they would be finished in December. From the photos it looks like it won't be finished this December.
Lack of mk1 eyeball assessment...
 
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