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RealTrains07

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Not exactly the first mess up of Anne Announcements on the rail network

Hopefully it will be sorted soon unlike SWR

Have to say the new EMR livery is looking pretty good on the 222 hopefully application on the fleet that stays will start soon
 

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I dont believe there is anything that's staying long term it's all up for replacement within a few years.
It's a different franchise with different priorities, but TfW are putting their livery on everything that isn't a Pacer, even though they're doing a complete fleet replacement like EMR.
 

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Nice to see this - tho think I'd have been happier if my 158 from Liverpool today had had any interior cleaning whatsoever.....really messy, one lav out of order, finger marks and muck all over window interiors, crisps on seats and floor worse.
Not an example of how to make good first impressions...
TV only shows the outsides of the trains. No one publishes pictures of the grotty insides. They're even less common on sites like this. Interiors are much less popular than exteriors. Very strange when we spend far more time inside trains than outside them!
 

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Got a chance to ride 222104 in full EMR livery.
222104 rear.jpg 222104 front.jpg 222104 full name.jpg
Inside is the same EMT interior apart from updated EMR safety posters.

More 222s updated with EMR Intercity
222021
222022
222101

Also 43049 & 43467 now have white E M R on the blue
 

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Is the horizontal band between the white stripes a different shade, or is it the same but with a different glossiness (like GWR's diagonal stripes)? MML-Commuter's first image suggests to me the glossiness thing, but the third may be a different shade.
 

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Is the horizontal band between the white stripes a different shade, or is it the same but with a different glossiness (like GWR's diagonal stripes)? MML-Commuter's first image suggests to me the glossiness thing, but the third may be a different shade.

It appears to be a different shade so far as I can see, this is one reason it looks rubbish.

Drop the white lines, drop the tapering at the vehicle ends and make it GWR-style matt and that might actually look more of a modern classic. Though the font is awful too.
 

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TV only shows the outsides of the trains. No one publishes pictures of the grotty insides. They're even less common on sites like this. Interiors are much less popular than exteriors. Very strange when we spend far more time inside trains than outside them!
Yes, good points!
 

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It appears to be a different shade so far as I can see, this is one reason it looks rubbish.

Drop the white lines, drop the tapering at the vehicle ends and make it GWR-style matt and that might actually look more of a modern classic. Though the font is awful too.

In your opinion ;)
 

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Which isn’t really that surprising as the London Midland livery they are replacing was very nice indeed.
When compared with WMR. The main thing distinguishable about EMR livery is the cab ends not being orange. Apart from that their isn’t a lot of difference
 

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When compared with WMR. The main thing distinguishable about EMR livery is the cab ends not being orange. Apart from that their isn’t a lot of difference
Really?

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The shade is significantly different (EMR being more on the red side of the purple spectrum) - there's no long stripes on the WMR livery either. Door colours are also different.

That's like saying the Thameslink and Southern liveries are the same, the latter having a few green splodges added.
 

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Really?

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The shade is significantly different (EMR being more on the red side of the purple spectrum) - there's no long stripes on the WMR livery either. Door colours are also different.

That's like saying the Thameslink and Southern liveries are the same, the latter having a few green splodges added.
Not really when the thameslink have blue doors
also if a 172 was painted fully purple with white doors would it not be confused with a soon to be EMR regional unit?
 

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Oh! I haven't seen anything like that at this stage.
They have replaced the branded signage at Derby above the bus stop entrance, however most stations have none-branded signs (e.g. the "welcome to blank station"). Lamp posts are painted in EMT colours though at some stations so they will eventually be done I'd imagine.
 

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Is the horizontal band between the white stripes a different shade, or is it the same but with a different glossiness (like GWR's diagonal stripes)? MML-Commuter's first image suggests to me the glossiness thing, but the third may be a different shade.

I think it is both. It is a slightly different shade but also almost matt compared to the rest.
22104 carriage1.jpg 222104 carriage2.jpg 22104 carriage3.jpg

You sure about 222101? Think it was spotted yesterday or the day before with EMT logos still on it

I may have been mistaken. I dont have a photo of these. Just noting numbers.
 

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Was strange hearing 'intercity service' mentioned in the on-board announcement on my 222 today. Seen quite a few trains this week still in East Midlands Trains livery yet.
 

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Update time. It looks like the removal of EMT has slowed down somewhat with quite a few units running around with EMT still, even 43081 is still running around in the 11 years livery this afternoon.

Class 08 shunter:

08525 - EMT blue
08690 - EMT blue
08899 - Maroon
08908 - EMT blue
08950 - EMT blue

Class 43 HST power cars:
43043 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43044 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43045 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43046 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43047 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43048 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43049 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43050 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43052 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43054 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43055 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43058 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43059 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43060 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43064 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43066 - De-branded intercity blue/white
43073 -
Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43076 - De-branded intercity blue/white
43081 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, 11 Years of EMT
43082 - De-branded intercity blue/white
43083 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43089 - Full EMT intercity blue/white

43423 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43465 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43467 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43468 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43480 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43484 - Full EMT Revised blue

Class 153 (Due to leave by Jan 2020):
153302 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153310 - Full EMT regional blue
153311 - Full EMT regional blue
153313 - Full EMT regional blue
153318 - Full EMT regional blue
153319 - Full EMT regional blue
153321 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153326 - Full EMT regional blue
153355 - Full EMT regional blue
153357 - Full EMT regional blue
153368 - Full EMT regional blue
153372 - Full EMT regional blue
153374 - Full EMT regional blue
153376 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153379 - Full EMT regional blue, no branding
153381 - Full EMT regional blue
153382 - Full EMT regional blue
153383 - Full EMT regional blue
153384 - Full EMT regional blue, 11 years branding
153385 - Full EMT regional blue

Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156403 - Full EMT regional blue
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156406 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - Full EMT regional blue
156414 - Full EMT regional blue
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - Full EMT regional blue
156473 - Full EMT regional blue
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo

Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - Full EMT intercity white
158774 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158777 - Full EMT intercity white
158780 - Full EMT intercity white
158783 - Full EMT intercity white
158785 - Full EMT intercity white
158788 - Full EMT intercity white
158799 - Full EMT intercity white
158806 - Full EMT intercity white
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - Full EMT intercity white
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - Full EMT intercity white
158852 - Full EMT intercity white
158854 - Full EMT intercity white
158856 - Full EMT intercity white
158857 - Full EMT intercity white
158858 - Full EMT intercity white
158862 - Full EMT intercity white
158863 - Full EMT intercity white
158864 - Full EMT intercity white
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - Full EMT intercity white
158889 - Full EMT intercity white

Class 222:
222001 - Full EMT intercity white
222002 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222004 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222005 - Full EMT intercity white
222006 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo

222007 - Full EMT intercity white
222008 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222009 - Full EMT intercity white
222010 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222011 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222012 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222013 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222014 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222015 - Full EMT intercity white
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - Full EMT intercity white
222018 - Full EMT intercity white
222019 - Full EMT intercity white
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222023 - Full EMT intercity white

222101 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222102 - Full EMT intercity white
222103 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222104 - Full EMR intercity purple
 
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Is there a reason why the refurbished 'EMR intercity' 222s have not gained the gold/beige doors as intended for the new AT300s in cgi images? All detailing is in grey instead, resembling the EMR Regional livery.
 

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Not really when the thameslink have blue doors
also if a 172 was painted fully purple with white doors would it not be confused with a soon to be EMR regional unit?

Is it that much of an issue? There can't be many people who get on a train based purely on its colour. In 'ye olde days' all the trains were the same colour and most people managed.
 

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Update time. It looks like the removal of EMT has slowed down somewhat with quite a few units running around with EMT still, even 43081 is still running around in the 11 years livery this afternoon.

Class 08 shunter:

08525 - EMT blue
08690 - EMT blue
08899 - Maroon
08908 - EMT blue
08950 - EMT blue

Class 43 HST power cars:
43043 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43044 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43045 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43046 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43047 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43048 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43049 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43050 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43052 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43054 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43055 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43058 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43059 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43060 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43064 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43066 - De-branded intercity blue/white
43073 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43076 - De-branded intercity blue/white
43081 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, 11 Years of EMT
43082 - De-branded intercity blue/white
43083 - Full EMT intercity blue/white
43089 - Full EMT intercity blue/white

43423 - Plain blue, no branding
43465 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43467 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43468 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43480 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43484 - Full EMT Revised blue

Class 153 (Due to leave by Jan 2020):
153302 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153308 - Full EMT regional blue
153310 - Full EMT regional blue
153311 - Full EMT regional blue
153313 - Full EMT regional blue
153318 - Full EMT regional blue
153319 - Full EMT regional blue
153321 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153326 - Full EMT regional blue
153355 - Full EMT regional blue
153357 - Full EMT regional blue
153368 - Full EMT regional blue
153372 - Full EMT regional blue
153374 - Full EMT regional blue
153376 - Full EMT regional blue
153379 - Full EMT regional blue, no branding
153381 - Full EMT regional blue
153382 - Full EMT regional blue
153383 - Full EMT regional blue
153384 - Full EMT regional blue, 11 years branding
153385 - Full EMT regional blue

Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156403 - Full EMT regional blue
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156406 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - Full EMT regional blue
156414 - Full EMT regional blue
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - Full EMT regional blue
156473 - Full EMT regional blue
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo

Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - Full EMT intercity white
158774 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158777 - Full EMT intercity white
158780 - Full EMT intercity white
158783 - Full EMT intercity white
158785 - Full EMT intercity white
158788 - Full EMT intercity white
158799 - Full EMT intercity white
158806 - Full EMT intercity white
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - Full EMT intercity white
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - Full EMT intercity white
158852 - Full EMT intercity white
158854 - Full EMT intercity white
158856 - Full EMT intercity white
158857 - Full EMT intercity white
158858 - Full EMT intercity white
158862 - Full EMT intercity white
158863 - Full EMT intercity white
158864 - Full EMT intercity white
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - Full EMT intercity white
158889 - Full EMT intercity white

Class 222:
222001 - Full EMT intercity white
222002 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222003 - Full EMT intercity white
222004 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222005 - Full EMT intercity white
222006 - Full EMT intercity white

222007 - Full EMT intercity white
222008 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222009 - Full EMT intercity white
222010 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222011 - Full EMT intercity white
222012 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222013 - Full EMT intercity white
222014 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222015 - Full EMT intercity white
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - Full EMT intercity white
222018 - Full EMT intercity white
222019 - Full EMT intercity white
222020 - Full EMT intercity white
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222023 - Full EMT intercity white

222101 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222102 - Full EMT intercity white
222103 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222104 - Full EMR intercity purple
222006, 222013 & 222020 are in EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logos. 153326 is also in EMT Regional Blue with EMR Regional logos.
 
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