drspa44
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Sorry if this should probably go in an existing thread, but I didn't want to hijack any discussions. I looked into how this affects the market for someone who travels from this area to London during weekday off-peak, returns on a different day and is happy to avoid zone 1 if the journey is cheaper. Previously, we were limited to SDS fares because there are no multi-day returns nor off peak rates for weekdays.
As part of updating http://faremap.ml, I noticed there was a lack of 'avoid zone 1' fares from Brookmans Park. I have generally found better deals opening up from BPK if I split at New Southgate/Arnos Grove. It is unfortunate how much split ticketing is a thing with BPK, due to the lack of 'avoiding zone 1' routes.
With Potters Bar, there are some off-peak fares that are *much* cheaper than the SDS ones they replace. For example, if you wanted to travel from PBR to Upminster at noon on a Friday, your options are:
SDS ANYTIME DAY S £10.60 VIA FINSBURY PK
SDS ANYTIME DAY S £13.50 ANY - PERMITTED
TFL Oyster / Contactless £7.30 Default route
TFL Oyster / Contactless £3.30 Avoiding Zones 1 and 2 via Harringay/Harringay Green Lanes and Barking
However, I suspect all of these are still more expensive than getting the 298 bus from PBR to Cockfosters and paying £1.50 to get to almost anywhere in Z1-6.
e.g. £3.00 for £1.50 bus + £1.50 ZCK to UPM.
So if you were happy to go the long way but did not want to get a bus, the Oyster introduction has made this journey more than 3x cheaper.
Looking at Potters Bar. The best saving by both % and by absolute amount were reductions from £20.10 to £6.20 in Chafford Hundred, Ockendon, Purfleet and Grays. I have created the full list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WlHoQITsovGcfeJ_DknN9F96bbQbkyCDBCwaMY1Kbjg/edit?usp=sharing
As part of updating http://faremap.ml, I noticed there was a lack of 'avoid zone 1' fares from Brookmans Park. I have generally found better deals opening up from BPK if I split at New Southgate/Arnos Grove. It is unfortunate how much split ticketing is a thing with BPK, due to the lack of 'avoiding zone 1' routes.
With Potters Bar, there are some off-peak fares that are *much* cheaper than the SDS ones they replace. For example, if you wanted to travel from PBR to Upminster at noon on a Friday, your options are:
SDS ANYTIME DAY S £10.60 VIA FINSBURY PK
SDS ANYTIME DAY S £13.50 ANY - PERMITTED
TFL Oyster / Contactless £7.30 Default route
TFL Oyster / Contactless £3.30 Avoiding Zones 1 and 2 via Harringay/Harringay Green Lanes and Barking
However, I suspect all of these are still more expensive than getting the 298 bus from PBR to Cockfosters and paying £1.50 to get to almost anywhere in Z1-6.
e.g. £3.00 for £1.50 bus + £1.50 ZCK to UPM.
So if you were happy to go the long way but did not want to get a bus, the Oyster introduction has made this journey more than 3x cheaper.
Looking at Potters Bar. The best saving by both % and by absolute amount were reductions from £20.10 to £6.20 in Chafford Hundred, Ockendon, Purfleet and Grays. I have created the full list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WlHoQITsovGcfeJ_DknN9F96bbQbkyCDBCwaMY1Kbjg/edit?usp=sharing
