ATW/Keolis Amey Wales stock shortages

[anamyd]

It's in Wales now

 

[PHILIPE]

So the service number is 5Z70 but it's 170207 on its own, right...?

The train no. is irrelevant providing there is no conflict with another one with the same number along it's line of route

 

[2T57]

170207 went through Bromsgrove, platform 4 at 14:25

 

[2T57]

 

[Bob Price]

Passing Pengam junction 58 minutes early.

 

[anamyd]

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I'll put mine up now

 

[Bob Price]

YouTube version

 

[anamyd]

 

[Chris217]

Ha,that's not gonna need much painting.
It's almost the same as TfW livery lol.

 

[anamyd]

Ha,that's not gonna need much painting.
It's almost the same as TfW livery lol.

We were literally saying that

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Strictly speaking they need to get rid of the grey line.

 

[anamyd]

 

[Parallel]

Excellent photos! I also saw it with my own eyes as I was catching the GWR Class 158 also pictured.

I forgot this was happening and did a double take thinking ‘why on Earth is a Chiltern 168 at Cardiff?’

 

[anamyd]

Excellent photos! I also saw it with my own eyes as I was catching the GWR train also pictured.

I forgot this was happening and did a double take thinking ‘why on Earth is a Chiltern 168 at Cardiff?’

thanks a lot, glad you like them hah! must've been confusing but funny

 

[Chris217]

Great shots and vids everyone.
Does anyone know if first class
on these will become declassified?

 

[PHILIPE]

Great shots and vids everyone.
Does anyone know if first class
on these will become declassified?

Considering the only First Class that TFW has is on the Premier Express it's bound to be

 

[hexagon789]

Great shots and vids everyone.
Does anyone know if first class
on these will become declassified?

Will probably removed at some point, whether that's before or after entering service though...

You can fit about 14 standard class seats in the first class area.

 

[krus_aragon]

Will probably removed at some point, whether that's before or after entering service though...

You can fit about 14 standard class seats in the first class area.

The Rolling Sock Requirements from the original franchise documents suggest that they will be getting a rebranding and installation of power sockets this autumn/winter (between October 2019 and February 2020).

 

[hexagon789]

The Rolling Sock Requirements from the original franchise documents suggest that they will be getting a rebranding and installation of power sockets this autumn/winter (between October 2019 and February 2020).

In which case, that would seem a likely time for them to remove the First Class seating.

 

[eastdyke]

The Rolling Sock Requirements from the original franchise documents suggest that they will be getting a rebranding and installation of power sockets this autumn/winter (between October 2019 and February 2020).

It is my understanding that all the GA 170s received power sockets as part of their recent upgrade.
https://www.greateranglia.co.uk/abo...ed-class-170-train-about-enter-service-better

Rail passengers in Norfolk, Suffolk and Cambridgeshire are to benefit from cleaner, smarter trains with more seats and plug points, as Greater Anglia’s first refurbished Class 170 trains re-enters passenger service.

170 270 is the first train to receive a complete overhaul and now features plug sockets, refurbished seats with new cushions, backs and covers, new carpets, new flooring in the toilets, refurbished heating, ventilation and air conditioning systems, new wall panels, repainted vestibules, grab handles and grab rails, a deep clean throughout and a new livery in Greater Anglia colours.

The work was carried out by Arriva Traincare at their facility in Crewe under contract to Porterbrook Leasing who are investing £5 million into the upgrade of Greater Anglia’s eight three-carriage and four two-carriage trains which operate on routes including the Norwich to Cambridge, Ipswich to Cambridge, Ipswich to Lowestoft and Norwich to Lowestoft lines. Every three-carriage train will also have six more seats installed.

The project is expected to be completed in early 2018.

It is both interesting and pleasing to read here of the great joy and anticipation ahead of the of arrival of these units!
It is matched equally and oppositely by angst and concern in GA land with their departure due to both shortage of serviceable legacy rolling stock and issues surrounding the introduction of the (potentially) game changing Stadler FLIRT fleet.

Perhaps it should be called ROSCO's third law of Rolling Stock? QED.
[With apologies to Newton]

Enjoy

 

[krus_aragon]

It is my understanding that all the GA 170s received power sockets as part of their recent upgrade.
https://www.greateranglia.co.uk/abo...ed-class-170-train-about-enter-service-better

Sounds like that may just be a spot of boilerplating in the document.

TfW reqiure both three-pin and USB power sockets to be fitted. If the 170s only have the former at the moment, it could be a case of swapping fascias over.

 

[anamyd]

Sounds like that may just be a spot of boilerplating in the document.

TfW reqiure both three-pin and USB power sockets to be fitted. If the 170s only have the former at the moment, it could be a case of swapping fascias over.

I take it they're replacing the sockets on the 158s as well...? None I tried were working on 840 nor 831 yesterday and I tried several on each...

 

[krus_aragon]

I take it they're replacing the sockets on the 158s as well...? None I tried were working on 840 nor 831 yesterday and I tried several on each...

If several sockets aren't working in a carriage, it's likely that the circuit breaker for all the sockets has tripped. It may be a known fault awaiting attention in the depot, or the guard may be unaware of it (and could try resetting the breaker if you inform them).

 

[anamyd]

If several sockets aren't working in a carriage, it's likely that the circuit breaker for all the sockets has tripped. It may be a known fault awaiting attention in the depot, or the guard may be unaware of it (and could try resetting the breaker if you inform them).

while I appreciate you giving me that information, as a passenger I'd just like to charge my phone

 

[Caaardiff]

Unless the Conductor is sat next to you charging their phone, they may not know

 

[anamyd]

Unless the Conductor is sat next to you charging their phone, they may not know

one of them claimed that some of them worked, apparently

 

[Dai Corner]

one of them claimed that some of them worked, apparently

Quite possible if they're on more than one circuit? Anyone got a wiring diagram for a refurbed 158?

 

[craigybagel]

Quite possible if they're on more than one circuit? Anyone got a wiring diagram for a refurbed 158?

One circuit for each side of each car for 158 sockets.

 

[6Gtraincrew]

Each side of the coach are on a different circuit.

 

[Cardiff123]

All great news, but they are still silent on the 769s