RealTimeTrains website

[KingJ]

Updated train info, e.g. max speeds, first class info, unit info etc.

This information is not in the open data.

Although not part of Network Rail's open data feeds, First Class info is now available via the public Live Departure Boards Web Service (LDBWS) API. Specifically as part of the coach data, which includes the class, loading level, number/letter and toilet status. There's one rather large caveat to this however in that LDBWS has the capability of showing it but very few services have it populated at the moment! Even so, integrating with the LDBWS API is not a simple matter, especially if trying to correlate it to other open data sources. Although it is technically possible, it's something I wouldn't expect to see on RTT.

I'd be happy to pay an annual subscription if you ever went than way, I find it that useful!

The best way to go about this currently is probably to subscribe to RailMiles.

 

[LA50041]

Seems to be having problems last couple of days. The Railmiles side of the site seems to be experiencing problems matching data with RTT and no response to emails

 

[Tom]

Other than taking data from RTT, RailMiles has nothing to do with it and sits entirely separately to it. I've replied to all the emails on the support system that I've seen with respect to the problem.

There's an intermittent connectivity issue between the Gatwick and London DCs that is inhibiting data reliably being sent to RailMiles historical data store. That system is moving to London today and will be resolved by the morning.

 

[gazr]

I'll ask here, seeing as the website owner responds Any reason why station autocomplete has stopped working (is it intentional?) This is when using 'advanced'. Thanks for the site and all you do to keep it going.

 

[800002]

I'll ask here, seeing as the website owner responds Any reason why station autocomplete has stopped working (is it intentional?) This is when using 'advanced'. Thanks for the site and all you do to keep it going.

Think you want his tread here:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/location-on-real-time-trains.190197/

EDIT: To quote, Freightmaster.

I have checked with Tom and apparently the change is deliberate due to people constantly
complaining to him that the 'autocomplete' feature was not working as they expected/wanted,
so he has removed it altogether until the launch of the next version of RTT.


Please don't shoot the messenger!



MARK

 

[Mex I can]

I noticed the auto complete had disappeared, but my iPhone has started auto completing for Mexborough and Barnsley anyway.

I think it’s an excellent site for both travellers and spotters, but it does sometimes leave me wondering where trains have disappeared to. In particular, freight and Cross Country trains are down as approaching Mexborough and never pass...

 

[Peter C]

I think it’s an excellent site for both travellers and spotters, but it does sometimes leave me wondering where trains have disappeared to. In particular, freight and Cross Country trains are down as approaching Mexborough and never pass...

Are you sure these are cases where a train will definitely run, or are they just paths for a service which RTT shows?

-Peter

 

[66Yorks]

I'm glad 'autocomplete' has been removed.

Link to the station codes from National Rail website:
https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations_destinations/48541.aspx

 

[LA50041]

Other than taking data from RTT, RailMiles has nothing to do with it and sits entirely separately to it. I've replied to all the emails on the support system that I've seen with respect to the problem.

Clearly I’m obviously not important enough as a subscriber to have my email that was sent yesterday responded to then. Glad to hear you are doing something about it

 

[Tom]

Clearly I’m obviously not important enough as a subscriber to have my email that was sent yesterday responded to then. Glad to hear you are doing something about it

I cannot see any emails from yesterday about it in the old system - there was a transition to a new one today. If you haven't had an automatic reply from the support ticketing system then it wasn't received. If you have, then send a ticket number to me by PM.

 

[LA50041]

I cannot see any emails from yesterday about it in the old system - there was a transition to a new one today. If you haven't had an automatic reply from the support ticketing system then it wasn't received. If you have, then send a ticket number to me by PM.

Email sent to support @railmiles.me on 2nd sept @ 2107. No ticket number received

 

[Tom]

To prove the project is not dead... https://twitter.com/swlines/status/1171873606479097856

Email sent to support @railmiles.me on 2nd sept @ 2107. No ticket number received

I still can't see a ticket from you and I've searched quite thoroughly. In any case this issue is now resolved.

 

[PHILIPE]

Noticed a strange one today in respect of Llanelli. Up to about 1130 The Platform numbers, just 1 and 2, for trains but afterwards they changed to UPL and DPL instead of the numbers

 

[800002]

Noticed a strange one today in respect of Llanelli. Up to about 1130 The Platform numbers, just 1 and 2, for trains but afterwards they changed to UPL and DPL instead of the numbers

The DPL / UPL codes only appear on schedules which have been cancelled / part cancelled (and freight schedules).
ALL of tomorrow's (Thursday) schedules though appear to have the UPL / DPL designation.
Having said that, the WTT schedules All use UPL / DPL... and looking back in time, RTT amends the display to read 1/2.
If the train doesn't run (at Llanelli) the UPL / DPL won't be amended.

The reason for this - totally unknown to me!

 

[Tom]

We update the DPL/UPL codes to the platform numbers on train movement through the platform, derived from the Train Describer.

 

[800002]

We update the DPL/UPL codes to the platform numbers on train movement through the platform, derived from the Train Describer.

May one enquire as to why?
(Idle curiosity....)

 

[Tom]

DPL and UPL are not platform numbers. RTT currently isn't intelligent enough to do the conversion at the schedule stage.

 

[Mag_seven]

I'm glad 'autocomplete' has been removed.

I wasn't and I'm glad to see it's back

 

[theironroad]

I wasn't and I'm glad to see it's back

Firstly, thanks for heads up that it is back.

While I'm pretty confident on many 3 letter CRS codes due to a number of years in a booking office, there are plenty of locations where the autofill is very useful indeed and I'm glad it's back too.

 

[theironroad]

Though having 'Bournemouth Hurn Airport' in RTT is new I think, and while a rail line to the Bournemouth airport would be very, very useful I can't see it coming anytime soon....

 

[_toommm_]

I notice the drop down menu of locations in enabled again, so if I type 'St' for example, it shows all the locations with 'St' in again.

 

[PHILIPE]

DPL and UPL are not platform numbers. RTT currently isn't intelligent enough to do the conversion at the schedule stage.

It is changing again today at Llanelli on the passage of the train. Looking back at yesterday everything had reverted back to Platform numbers and RTT for days in advance is showing UPL and DPL.
At Machynlleth there are no pre-planned Platform numbers shown but they appear on the passage of a train

 

[66Yorks]

Nooooooooo!

I wasn't and I'm glad to see it's back

 

[louis97]

It is changing again today at Llanelli on the passage of the train. Looking back at yesterday everything had reverted back to Platform numbers and RTT for days in advance is showing UPL and DPL.
At Machynlleth there are no pre-planned Platform numbers shown but they appear on the passage of a train

All sounds normal to me, as explained by Tom.

A blog post is now available for you all to read about the very much alive project:
https://blog.realtimetrains.com/2019/09/physically-moving-realtime-trains-part-1

 

[eastdyke]

@Tom Thank you for your superb offerings!
This was noticed at the head of a search result today:

Realtime Trains will receive a major upgrade and redesign on Friday. We're not expecting any downtime or issues, just letting you know!

Can't wait, thanks again

 

[66Yorks]

Tom, thanks in anticipation for the new website this week. Many people, including myself, use this invaluable tool you and your team have created.
Along with Traksy they are by the best websites that are out there. Well done.

 

[Y Ddraig Coch]

So the new RTT launched today, its rather, erm…..turquoise?

Its a bit in your face anyway and the format may take some getting used to. I'm sure that is that because everything isn't exactly where it used to be and I was so used to it.

Also, for the less experienced who may not know TOC short codes ie AW is Transport for Wales it may be difficult to select the correct TOC as it only offers the short codes and not the full name next to it as on the previous version.

What does everyone else think?

 

[blackfive460]

And indeed it has received a major update today.
It looks quite smart too!

 

[TVLUser]

Tom has handily posted a full list of feature updates here - https://blog.realtimetrains.com/2019/10/the-new-realtime-trains/.

In addition to this list, it appears that the naming of some timing loads seem to have been changed - just to make you aware. Some that I have found so far are:

• Electric (Class 91/MkIV) LNER services, which now seem to show as a "Diesel Locomotive" instead of Electric. HST services still show as HST.
• The Class 158 timing load now additionally shows 168/170/175. This appears to be merely a cosmetic improvement.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but is Class 172 a new timing load with the new RTT (it exists on WMR Snow Hill services)? I don't recall ever having seen that before.

 

[Bletchleyite]

It's the same thing with a fancy skin on it. The one thing I can't seem to find is the option to switch to detailed from each simple screen which could do with coming back.