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The thing that gets me though is it is £32 for the THURSDAY when a lot fewer trains run and only the class 50's and gronks so the Friday and Saturday there are more trains and locos for the same price whereas a few years ago it would have been two or three pounds less

also the Gronks and the autocoach do non stop Kiddie to Bridgenorth at 08.05 which if you have a long drive (2 hours for me assuming no hold ups) is a tough schedule. I am debating if it's worth getting up at 05.00 to make that one

But for me tomorrow was the ONLY day I would be able to go so I am hoping they put one of the westerns and the 40 on but I am led to believe only 4 locos plus the gronks on the Thursday and 3 of those are definitely 50's (don't get me wrong I love 50's ) but a little variety is always welcome but sausage rolls are in the oven camera battery on charge and am just about to go and fill up the car

the question is shall I set my alarm to 05.00 or leave it at 05.35 as normal
 

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But for me tomorrow was the ONLY day I would be able to go so I am hoping they put one of the westerns and the 40 on but I am led to believe only 4 locos plus the gronks on the Thursday and 3 of those are definitely 50's (don't get me wrong I love 50's ) but a little variety is always welcome but sausage rolls are in the oven camera battery on charge and am just about to go and fill up the car

the question is shall I set my alarm to 05.00 or leave it at 05.35 as normal
You have been misinformed. Have a look at https://www.svr.co.uk/pdf/Special Events/Autumn Diesel Gala WTT Updated 02102019.pdf

Be warned D1062 not now working.
 
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I’m not going to argue about Westerns vs Deltics.
I’m not going to argue about Westerns vs Deltics.
I’m not going to argue about Westerns vs Deltics.

Deltics were not built at Darlington! On Saturday, all being well I shall be travelling out of Bridgnorth (no e!) on a Darlington built machine an hour or so before the Western - 40106. I do plan on covering the Western for a shorter trip later on though, but I prefer to concentrate on non mainline stuff when at galas.
 

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Deltics were not built at Darlington! On Saturday, all being well I shall be travelling out of Bridgnorth (no e!) on a Darlington built machine an hour or so before the Western - 40106. I do plan on covering the Western for a shorter trip later on though, but I prefer to concentrate on non mainline stuff when at galas.

Doncaster. Second best building location. Still miles ahead of any western rubbish ;) Shame none are to appear at this gala

I had forgotten about 40106 being built at Robert Stephenson and Hawthorns in Darlington. Still hoping to go on Friday
 

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Doncaster. Second best building location. Still miles ahead of any western rubbish ;) Shame none are to appear at this gala

I had forgotten about 40106 being built at Robert Stephenson and Hawthorns in Darlington. Still hoping to go on Friday

Aargh, nor were they built at Doncaster! The prototype was constructed at Preston and the rest at Vulcan Foundry at Newton-le-Willows.

Back on topic, the 'Clayton' hasn't made it out today (not quite ready) but the event organisers have posted on Facebook that it should be ready for tomorrow.
 

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Trip report

The complicated new timetable proved difficult so much late running caused by sections being blocked for long periods but in they end they got it sorted once they had got the hang of the maneuvers

best loco there performance wise 40106 which made up 6 mins Bewdley to Highley then got stuck at Highley !! and D1015 which even on one engine was accelerating very well away from station stops as was 37688

50007 has been numbered 50014 warspite on one side
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but was running well as was 50033 but 50049 appears to have issues and couldn't get above 15MPH with load 8 whereas the class 20 could
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clayton was a no show (mechanical issues apparently) but might run on saturday and the teddy bear despite only running in multiple so as not to tax it too much sat down and had to be returned to the engine yard to await repair
 

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Trip report

The complicated new timetable proved difficult so much late running caused by sections being blocked for long periods but in they end they got it sorted once they had got the hang of the maneuvers

best loco there performance wise 40106 which made up 6 mins Bewdley to Highley then got stuck at Highley !! and D1015 which even on one engine was accelerating very well away from station stops as was 37688

50007 has been numbered 50014 warspite on one side
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but was running well as was 50033 but 50049 appears to have issues and couldn't get above 15MPH with load 8 whereas the class 20 could
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clayton was a no show (mechanical issues apparently) but might run on saturday and the teddy bear despite only running in multiple so as not to tax it too much sat down and had to be returned to the engine yard to await repair
Thanks very much for that! :) I'll be going tomorrow, so it's nice to know what's happening and what's not. I need to have another look at the new timetable to check that I can still do my planned journeys.
Why GBRf chose to renumber and rename 50007 to 50014 "Warpsite" on one side is beyond me.
Your report has reminded me to make a note of the timings for each of the journeys I do tomorrow (as best as possible) - so we can compare how the timetable is running! :D

-Peter
 

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On my way up and just seem 065I Crewe HS to Eastleigh green 40+2tone green 47 at Leamington Spa; very smart!
 

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Severn Valley Railway Autumn Diesel Gala 2019, fleet - planned and in service.

The original fleet was said to be:
  • 2x 09
  • 1x 14
  • 1x 17
  • 1x 33
  • 1x 37
  • 1x 40
  • 1x 42
  • 5x 50
  • 2x 52
  • 1x 108
The website is now saying the fleet is:
  • 2x 09
  • 1x 14
  • 1x17
  • 1x 20
  • 1x 33
  • 1x 37
  • 1x 40
  • 1x 42
  • 4x 50
  • 1x 52
Changes from the original fleet to the new fleet:
  • A Class 52 has been replaced by a Class 20.
  • A Class 50 has been taken out.
  • The Class 108 has been taken out.

Notes:
  • The Class 17 D8568 was not running on the Friday, but may run on the Saturday along with the Class 14 D9551.
  • The 2 Class 09s will be double-heading services.
  • The Class 52 will be at the event for its first public runs following two overhauled engines being fitted.
  • Class 50 50033 will be at the event for its first public runs in BR Large Logo livery.

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I hope this is of some use to people on here. I'm not intending to moan about the changes to the planned fleet on here, just putting the information out there. Please note that I am perfectly happy to edit this list if people give any extra information.:)

-Peter
 

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As another note, I've come across the gradient profiles for the SVR - in case anyone, such as myself, would like to use it to time the services at the gala and see how they perform with the timetable?

I can send the gradient profiles to people if you want. :)

-Peter
 

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Superb event today Friday. Gutted no Clayton but the Teddy Bear is always welcome. As Jonathan Meade would say, Severn Heaven.

Edit: The Clayton appeared late in the day.
 
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Note: the class 17 was running today in tandem with the class 14

Note: 2 x class 20 were in operation apparently ( although I only saw 1)

Note: 50044 is not in service

Note: D1015 was running in service last weekend

Note: 50033 looked and sounded pretty decent

Note: hardcore shunter action was quite good fun!

Note: the local servies to highley were good and offered varied traction

Note: wibbling spotters do my head in. Terribly dull people. Who cares if gbrf have painted their locos in house colours or called one the wrong name. Ffs. Shut up. It is their toy to play with. You want to play with it then pony up otherwise just enjoy the day out.

(One bloke looked like he was about to have a thrombo over this. He, honestly, refused to travel on the gbrf coloured locos!)

Note: young spotters desperately trying to use terms like hellfire and my lords to gain kudos. Just stop. It is a 25mph railway gala. Chill out. Enjoy the trundle.

Note: decent day apart from the delays to and from and the wibbling spotters. The trains were not rammed like I expect them to be tomorrow and getting photos was generally easy with the number of people unable to consier others quite low ( one man aside!) The weather was ok for October and the atmosphere was pretty relaxed

Ps no beer consumption!
 
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Thursday was no where near as busy as previous events BUT that is to be expected as it is home fleet only so nothing "new" for haulage to attract the masses. They still had quite a few there though

Oh and everyone is entitled to their opinion but personally I disagree with naming and numbering locos with the names and numbers of scrapped classmates be it Deltics westerns or class 50's
 

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Note: the class 17 was running today in tandem with the class 14

Note: 2 x class 20 were in operation apparently ( although I only saw 1)

Note: 50044 is not in service

Note: D1015 was running in service last weekend

Note: 50033 looked and sounded pretty decent

Note: hardcore shunter action was quite good fun!

Note: the local servies to highley were good and offered varied traction

Note: wibbling spotters do my head in. Terribly dull people. Who cares if gbrf have painted their locos in house colours or called one the wrong name. Ffs. Shut up. It is their toy to play with. You want to play with it then pony up otherwise just enjoy the day out.

(One bloke looked like he was about to have a thrombo over this. He, honestly, refused to travel on the gbrf coloured locos!)

Note: young spotters desperately trying to use terms like hellfire and my lords to gain kudos. Just stop. It is a 25mph railway gala. Chill out. Enjoy the trundle.

Note: decent day apart from the delays to and from and the wibbling spotters. The trains were not rammed like I expect them to be tomorrow and getting photos was generally easy with the number of people unable to consier others quite low ( one man aside!) The weather was ok for October and the atmosphere was pretty relaxed

Ps no beer consumption!
Thanks for the info - the one thing that annoys me about diesel enthusiasts is their obsession (a lot of the time, not all of the time) with 37s and "hellfire". As you say - it's a 25mph line - give over! :D

I quite like the GBRf locos. I didn't repaint a 00 gauge Lima 50 into GBRf earluer this year for nothing! :)

-Peter
 

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Thanks for the info - the one thing that annoys me about diesel enthusiasts is their obsession (a lot of the time, not all of the time) with 37s and "hellfire". As you say - it's a 25mph line - give over! :D

I quite like the GBRf locos. I didn't repaint a 00 gauge Lima 50 into GBRf earluer this year for nothing! :)

-Peter
Ooh, sweeping generalisation! I can point you in the direction of plenty of Sulzer fans who consider 37s and other EE locos to be rancid trash. I happen to take a different view but each to their own.

On the EE front I always found that it was the 40s and 50s that attracted the more vociferous following. As for the 'Peak Army', best not go there!

Diesel galas need to attract as wide a range of enthusiasts as possible, from those dedicated to their favourite class to 'scratch merchants' attracted by something rare to those who just want a fun day out. Sometimes members of one tribe are baffled by what makes the others tick.
 

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Thanks for the info

no worries - enjoy your trip. It was a good day with lots of running

Ooh, sweeping generalisation! I can point you in the direction of plenty of Sulzer fans who consider 37s and other EE locos to be rancid trash. I happen to take a different view but each to their own.

On the EE front I always found that it was the 40s and 50s that attracted the more vociferous following. As for the 'Peak Army', best not go there!

Diesel galas need to attract as wide a range of enthusiasts as possible, from those dedicated to their favourite class to 'scratch merchants' attracted by something rare to those who just want a fun day out. Sometimes members of one tribe are baffled by what makes the others tick.

The whole thing baffles me! I just go for a trundle on a proper day like in them olden days. I am not bothered what it is on the business end. Things like 50's used to be exotic when you are north east based kid growing up but they are fairly common now LOL

Anyway - Deltics are the bestest
 

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As a PS: Although the 17 was running with the 14 neither were being taxed and the 17 carried several worried looking men who, at every station, did lots of inspecting, sucking air over their teeth and more inspecting as the journey progressed. It wasn't very well.

PPS - the driver of the class 37 and of the class 20 liked his loud handle.
 

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Ooh, sweeping generalisation! I can point you in the direction of plenty of Sulzer fans who consider 37s and other EE locos to be rancid trash. I happen to take a different view but each to their own.

On the EE front I always found that it was the 40s and 50s that attracted the more vociferous following. As for the 'Peak Army', best not go there!

Diesel galas need to attract as wide a range of enthusiasts as possible, from those dedicated to their favourite class to 'scratch merchants' attracted by something rare to those who just want a fun day out. Sometimes members of one tribe are baffled by what makes the others tick.
:)
I'm perfectly happy with people liking whatever locos they like, but for me the 37 just isn't that interesting. *Controversial Opinion Alarm* (!)
50s are the best locos. :D I like going to the galas and having a nice day out. I'm interested in the engines on the trains I'm on, but if it's not my favourite engine I won't complain. It's trains- therefore it's good.

-Peter
 

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Well it was an early start for me, dropped the van off at my friends house before we headed up the M5 in his car.
Currently in seat 10 in the second coach behind 40106 just about to leave Bridgnorth (no e ;)), say hello if you’re passing.
 

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Well it was an early start for me, dropped the van off at my friends house before we headed up the M5 in his car.
Currently in seat 10 in the second coach behind 40106 just about to leave Bridgnorth (no e ;)), say hello if you’re passing.
Passed your train at Hampton Loade... couldn't see which seat was 10! :(

-Peter
 

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Managed to take in 40106, 33108, D1015 and 37688 so far.
Very enjoyable.
 

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Well it was an early start for me, dropped the van off at my friends house before we headed up the M5 in his car.
Currently in seat 10 in the second coach behind 40106 just about to leave Bridgnorth (no e ;)), say hello if you’re passing.

I was in the front bay, front coach (where else!), currently heading for Bridgnorth as part of a round trip behind 50033 which is a total credit to the Class 50 Alliance who have restored it back to working order.
 

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I was in the front bay, front coach (where else!), currently heading for Bridgnorth as part of a round trip behind 50033 which is a total credit to the Class 50 Alliance who have restored it back to working order.
Well I passed you in the third bay of the front coach behind 37688 (which was unbelievably noisy). I might see you on 50033 later as we’re heading back up to Hampton Loade behind D1015 to pick it up.
 

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Well I passed you in the third bay of the front coach behind 37688 (which was unbelievably noisy). I might see you on 50033 later as we’re heading back up to Hampton Loade behind D1015 to pick it up.
Are you going to be on the 1650 off Bridgnorth? If so, where on the train? I'll be on that one too. :)

-Peter
 
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