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*cough* first glasgow and their 51 plate B10sAnd yet other companies run around with buses older than it and in worse shape too.
*cough* first glasgow and their 51 plate B10sAnd yet other companies run around with buses older than it and in worse shape too.
*cough* first glasgow and their 51 plate B10s
I can't comment on Glasgow buses as ones I have used recently (75 for example) is pretty new, but I have seen some W plates running around some cities down south and look like they are falling apart. That said I have also seen some fairly new buses that look like they are falling apart too.*cough* first glasgow and their 51 plate B10s
I can't comment on Glasgow buses as ones I have used recently (75 for example) is pretty new, but I have seen some W plates running around some cities down south and look like they are falling apart. That said I have also seen some fairly new buses that look like they are falling apart too.
yes they might be reapainted and be fine mechanically but the interiors are dreadfull, its the same case for most of Glasgows B10s, B7TLs & B7RLEs. i also dont get how im a “lothian fanboy” for stating glasgow uses old fleet. I like first Glasgow fleet almost as much as Lothian its just Glasgow has way older vehicles that are in a poor conditionGranted some of the B10s within First Scottish ops may look battered, but mechanically they're sound, arguably more so than some of Lothians younger Tridents. There's no need for this petty slagging off of other operators, this is the behaviour i expect from petty Lothian fanboys on Flickr who get offended by two tone blue buses - not a civilised forum!
yes they might be reapainted and be fine mechanically but the interiors are dreadfull, its the same case for most of Glasgows B10s, B7TLs & B7RLEs. i also dont get how im a “lothian fanboy” for stating glasgow uses old fleet. I like first Glasgow fleet almost as much as Lothian its just Glasgow has way older vehicles that are in a poor condition
661 was highly likely to have been a donor of parts such as engine gearbox etc and body parts and what was left of it wasn’t worth keepingAnd yet other companies run around with buses older than it and in worse shape too.
Its Ensign though and they usually just sell whatever to scrap. Most Ex Metroline VPs went straight for scrap as soon as they went to Ensign661 was highly likely to have been a donor of parts such as engine gearbox etc and body parts and what was left of it wasn’t worth keeping
The council have been talking about bus stop rationalisation for quite a while so I wouldn't be surprised. Would be quite interesting to see how they do it!There is a post on an East Edinburgh community forum stating that route 44 is going to be part of a "bus stop rationalisation" pilot - meaning it will stop at less stops and thus run quicker. Any truth / likelihood of this or just a nonsense rumour?
There have been 2 repaints in the last few weeks which is by no means half of what is allocated to Dumbarton. Whilst they are generally to be found on the 206 (not Sundays) and 208 recently 2 or 3 E300s are appearing on the 206 on a daily basis due to non availability of the Volvos. They are certainly not 'the most reliable type'.About half the B10s in Glasgow have been repainted in the last 10 weeks, they'll be leaving the service fleet soon however they're only used on a local run out in Dumbarton. As i say, while some of the Scottish B10s may look rough round the edges (particularly Aberdeens 3 Barbie examples), however at a mechanically aspect they're in superb condition and had work done on them not too long ago by Volvo to prolong their life. Not to mention the fact they're still the most reliable vehicle type and favourites with the drivers! To say they're falling apart (as others have alluded) is quite frankly inaccurate.
The council have been talking about bus stop rationalisation for quite a while so I wouldn't be surprised. Would be quite interesting to see how they do it!
For some who have mobility issues, or certain disabilities, walking an extra few yards can actually be physically taxing and cause extreme pain. I do however agree that some stops are far too close together and should be spread out a bit. However, the council need to do it carefully.Walking a few extra yards to a bus stop doesn’t hurt anyone
There have been 2 repaints in the last few weeks which is by no means half of what is allocated to Dumbarton. Whilst they are generally to be found on the 206 (not Sundays) and 208 recently 2 or 3 E300s are appearing on the 206 on a daily basis due to non availability of the Volvos. They are certainly not 'the most reliable type'.
In my opinion there are only 2 stops close together.Hooray! About time they started rationalising bus stops across the whole city... it’s ridiculous how close together some of them are! Constant stop/start on some routes and the 44 is one of the worst offenders - especially through Juniper Green.
A similar scheme has been undertaken in Birmingham and as a result journey times have improved and ridership has increased.
The rationalisation doesn’t have to be too drastic; just enough to get a happy balance. Walking a few extra yards to a bus stop doesn’t hurt anyone and the council can promote healthy/active living too.
Probably no need for the Al Borgo stop nowadays, nor since the mid 1980s. If I remember rightly the history behind those stops was that the 44 and 45 used to turn right into Baberton Avenue to go round Belmont Road and terminate outside the Scott's butcher shop on Lanark Road. A new stop was felt necessary for elderly residents of St Margaret's Court who used the 44 or 45. Meanwhile the 52 and 53 carried straight on to Balerno where the original Al Borgo stop was appropriate. Not that Al Borgo was there at the time, but you know what I mean.In my opinion there are only 2 stops close together.
The one at St Margaret’s Court and the one outside the Al Borgo restaurant.
Totally agree with you.Probably no need for the Al Borgo stop nowadays, nor since the mid 1980s. If I remember rightly the history behind those stops was that the 44 and 45 used to turn right into Baberton Avenue to go round Belmont Road and terminate outside the Scott's butcher shop on Lanark Road. A new stop was felt necessary for elderly residents of St Margaret's Court who used the 44 or 45. Meanwhile the 52 and 53 carried straight on to Balerno where the original Al Borgo stop was appropriate. Not that Al Borgo was there at the time, but you know what I mean.
so basically be like a semi-express route?There is a post on an East Edinburgh community forum stating that route 44 is going to be part of a "bus stop rationalisation" pilot - meaning it will stop at less stops and thus run quicker. Any truth / likelihood of this or just a nonsense rumour?
London Road comes to mind for too many stops. 4 between Easter Road and Elm Row is at least 1 too many. A speeding up of the 44 is a great idea. Seems to work ok skipping a few on the X15 compared to the old 15. Shame it doesn't run weekends. Peirshill square East/West is another one that springs to mind in the network. Even speeding 1 service up on duplicate sections especially where there is bad time keeping would be a good idea too.
These spring to mind:
4/5 Elm Row-Peirshill (put 1 limited stop as per X24 stops)
34/35 Riccartion-Longstone Roundabout, Slateford-Lothian Road
37/47 Surgeons Hall-Straiton Roundabout/West End-Crewe Toll
26 would be another route that springs to mind that would benefit from less stops.
London Road comes to mind for too many stops. 4 between Easter Road and Elm Row is at least 1 too many. A speeding up of the 44 is a great idea. Seems to work ok skipping a few on the X15 compared to the old 15. Shame it doesn't run weekends. Peirshill square East/West is another one that springs to mind in the network. Even speeding 1 service up on duplicate sections especially where there is bad time keeping would be a good idea too.
These spring to mind:
4/5 Elm Row-Peirshill (put 1 limited stop as per X24 stops)
34/35 Riccartion-Longstone Roundabout, Slateford-Lothian Road
37/47 Surgeons Hall-Straiton Roundabout/West End-Crewe Toll
26 would be another route that springs to mind that would benefit from less stops.
Absolutely. I’ve been travelling Princes Street to Heriot Watt once a week since August at approximately 5.30pm. The first two weeks I made the mistake of getting a 25 and 34 - Longstone to Riccarton is particularly bad because the bus pulls right into the bus stop before pulling out again. At least through Gorgie or Slateford the stop is on the main road.34/35 Riccartion-Longstone Roundabout, Slateford-Lothian Road
I travel from Tollcross out to HW several times a week and the 34 though Longstone is just painful at rush hour! If I time it right I take the X27/28 to the P&R which is much more pleasant.Absolutely. I’ve been travelling Princes Street to Heriot Watt once a week since August at approximately 5.30pm. The first two weeks I made the mistake of getting a 25 and 34 - Longstone to Riccarton is particularly bad because the bus pulls right into the bus stop before pulling out again. At least through Gorgie or Slateford the stop is on the main road.
The X25 is a life-saver
Bus stop rationalisation would make little difference as only a few stops are too close together and even then I've heard rumour about reorganising the princes street stops to reduce them in number also...that won't solve anything as the issue isnt the number of stops but the nunmber of physical buses on that street...erugh clowncil.
I imagine making the X25 operate both ways would work pretty well with students going to uni/homeWhy do lothian not make more out of express services at peak hours? X34 for example is service which could be useful to some.