Legolash2o
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What are the trays at Manchester Piccadilly please? I have the feeling they are for waste.
I’m sure they had them at London Paddington too?
To try and keep the ballast clean from oil leaks and human excrement from those that can’t read on non retention tank toilet trains.
At Manchester Piccadilly, up until recently it was quite a high proportion of the total as none of Northern classes 142, 150 or 156 that regularly use the station, nor classes 144 or 153 for completeness within the Northern fleet, were fitted with them. That number is decreasing as the Northern class 150s and 156s are being fitted with them as they go through their current refurbishment, and the 142s are expected to be withdrawn within a year.Are there still a lot of trains with non retention tanks?
I could be wrong, but I thought everything was quite extensively renewed during the 2002 refurbishment, which was also when the trays were installed if I remember correctly.That track looks old , how old you reckon?
At Manchester Piccadilly, up until recently it was quite a high proportion of the total as none of Northern classes 142, 150 or 156 that regularly use the station, nor classes 144 or 153 for completeness within the Northern fleet, were fitted with them. That number is decreasing as the Northern class 150s and 156s are being fitted with them as they go through their current refurbishment, and the 142s are expected to be withdrawn within a year.
I could be wrong, but I thought everything was quite extensively renewed during the 2002 refurbishment, which was also when the trays were installed if I remember correctly.
I’m sure they had them at London Paddington too?
Shoot me down, but couldn’t you have something like a giant hoover to empty them, rather than removing them?
At Manchester Piccadilly, up until recently it was quite a high proportion of the total as none of Northern classes 142, 150 or 156 that regularly use the station, nor classes 144 or 153 for completeness within the Northern fleet, were fitted with them. That number is decreasing as the Northern class 150s and 156s are being fitted with them as they go through their current refurbishment, and the 142s are expected to be withdrawn within a year.
I could be wrong, but I thought everything was quite extensively renewed during the 2002 refurbishment, which was also when the trays were installed if I remember correctly.
Do northern's 319's have retention tanks?
Yes they do, they retain the ones they originally had. Their contents are heated too, yum.Do northern's 319's have retention tanks?
How many diesel trains without retention tanks still visit Paddington each day?They do! (Or did, at least) - an episode of the television programme at Paddington spent quite a while explaining the gory details!
How many diesel trains without retention tanks still visit Paddington each day?
The one of the reasons why class 456 had their tanks removed was because they were not heated and froze in the winter. I'd suggest that most tanks are heated to keep the contents liquid, doesn't mean they are heated much above freezing. Certainly not going to be a boiling tank of daily ablutions.Yes they do, they retain the ones they originally had. Their contents are heated too, yum.
The HSTs have all been replaced by intercity express bi-modes over the last few years and as far as I can tell all the local services are run with fairly modern EMUs. so presumablly those also have tanks.How many diesel trains without retention tanks still visit Paddington each day?
That leaves the night rivera, which is locomotive hauled MK3s, wikipedia claims the sleeping cars are fitted with controlled emmision toilets but it's not to so clear about the non-sleeping cars (though it does talk about recent new toilet fitment, which would presumablly come with retention tanks).
The HSTs have all been replaced by intercity express bi-modes over the last few years and as far as I can tell all the local services are run with fairly modern EMUs. so presumably those also have tanks.