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[JumpinTrainz]

also some SF55 and a WX55 RLEs moved to Scoutston from Caley as well as some YN08 B9s at Caley

34363/4/96 have been debranded from the 38

Interesting I wonder if they’ll brand it up like the other 77 buses. This bus will be the odd one out as it doesn’t have luggage racks like the slightly longer examples currently on the 77. Probably unpopular opinion and I can see why they went to decker operation but most 77s I see are empty during the day with about 3 turning up at a time. Bit of an issue.

The YN08 B9TLs are nice buses but could be doing with a refurb. They used to be battered on the X1/X11. It’ll be odd seeing them on city work.

 

[Volvodart]

If they had wanted a coloured bus, they have just removed the branding from a bus in one of the other colours, so they would have done it then.

 

[lastbus]

Interesting I wonder if they’ll brand it up like the other 77 buses. This bus will be the odd one out as it doesn’t have luggage racks like the slightly longer examples currently on the 77. Probably unpopular opinion and I can see why they went to decker operation but most 77s I see are empty during the day with about 3 turning up at a time. Bit of an issue.

The YN08 B9TLs are nice buses but could be doing with a refurb. They used to be battered on the X1/X11. It’ll be odd seeing them on city work.

An extra bus has been put on the 77 to improve reliability.

 

[PaulMc7]

An extra bus has been put on the 77 to improve reliability.

Not a surprise tbh. It can be fairly horrendous for reliability but all services through Partick aren't great for being on time consistently

 

[SarahDFIG]

So its still going , dont believe rumours that its getting withdrawn then last weekend

will be away soon.

 

[smtglasgow]

Been really busy with work, so just getting a proper look at the new timetables. Hadn’t noticed that the peak 38s were cut back – buses along Alexandra Parade go from every 4 to 5 minutes with the extras on the 38b disappearing. The 38b, c and e can all be very quiet after Alexandra Park, but that part of the east end has seen some savage cuts in the last decade. With the peak extra 38s gone, what does the bus off the 32 do now?

 

[PaulMc7]

I remember when most of the East end had fairly frequent services that were always busy.

Easterhouse got cuts to everything at once not long ago but that's understandable as a lot of the buses can be very quiet, there's new houses in the process of being built for GHA and the X19 and train services are pretty good alternatives

Garthamlock has had loads of new houses with tons more still being built but it's already brought so many more cars to the area plus the 38 is horrific for reliability.

Barlanark still has the 60/60A which doesn't take much longer than the 38B. Greenfield is weird one for me. Doesn't seem to be too many cars around yet the bus most of the time is quiet there. The 46 isn't always that busy either except down to Shettleston and Parkhead.

The Baillieston 38E has the 41 alongside it for part of Edinburgh Road plus the 2 covers more of Baillieston so as much as it's longer the train and the 2 are more likely to be more useful to people especially as it just goes along Edinburgh Road turns once then that's the terminus.

The 38C has to compete with the X3, X35 and X37 and they only take 15/20 mins into Glasgow plus there's such close proximity to the motorway so it's an area that's handy for car owners more than anyone else. Stepps also has a lot of new fairly expensive housing and most houses have more than one car plus the new train links through there are better than the bus.

It has been a horrific time for the East end in terms of bus use but with the GHAs main new builds being mostly east end it might bring some people back. Parkhead, Carntyne and Easterhouse are all getting a lot of new builds for the GHA and I highly doubt there will be as much car usage compared to if it was private sale households being built and there's plenty of them in the process too

 

[JumpinTrainz]

I remember when most of the East end had fairly frequent services that were always busy.

Easterhouse got cuts to everything at once not long ago but that's understandable as a lot of the buses can be very quiet, there's new houses in the process of being built for GHA and the X19 and train services are pretty good alternatives

Garthamlock has had loads of new houses with tons more still being built but it's already brought so many more cars to the area plus the 38 is horrific for reliability.

Barlanark still has the 60/60A which doesn't take much longer than the 38B. Greenfield is weird one for me. Doesn't seem to be too many cars around yet the bus most of the time is quiet there. The 46 isn't always that busy either except down to Shettleston and Parkhead.

The Baillieston 38E has the 41 alongside it for part of Edinburgh Road plus the 2 covers more of Baillieston so as much as it's longer the train and the 2 are more likely to be more useful to people especially as it just goes along Edinburgh Road turns once then that's the terminus.

The 38C has to compete with the X3, X35 and X37 and they only take 15/20 mins into Glasgow plus there's such close proximity to the motorway so it's an area that's handy for car owners more than anyone else. Stepps also has a lot of new fairly expensive housing and most houses have more than one car plus the new train links through there are better than the bus.

It has been a horrific time for the East end in terms of bus use but with the GHAs main new builds being mostly east end it might bring some people back. Parkhead, Carntyne and Easterhouse are all getting a lot of new builds for the GHA and I highly doubt there will be as much car usage compared to if it was private sale households being built and there's plenty of them in the process too

I’ve lived in the east end for years and have noticed changes to bus travel. The 61 in my opinion has become more popular in recent years. It was a route that used to have mainly new single stock but in recent years has converted to deckers and the frequency has increased. I think it should have had more invested in it in recent years. Refurbished buses are nice but new deckers would have been better as I think it’s a route which deserves it especially after being almost fully trident operated up until the refurbished B9TLs appeared (sometimes getting the really stinky T plate tridents).

The 2 has always been a busy route and it still is to this day. It’s a route which works well.

As for the 60/60A I still find it to be a very busy rout particularly in the east end into Shettleston etc. It’s another route which hasn’t had much investment compared to what it did. It’s a busy route. The 41 could be included in that I always see it busy heading into town. Easterhouse doesn’t really have good train links as Easterhouse train station is closer to Swinton and isn’t really at the main housing side of Easterhouse.

The 38E is an odd one because it can get busy especially in the mornings for people travelling into the city centre and the Glasgow Royal Infirmary and it’s quicker than the 2 but it falls off majorly at night.

 

[route101]

Quite often wait for a 61 if going from City to the Forge as other buses are singles and when packed not easy to get off of.

ALX 400S have crept back on the 60 and 60A , 31 last two days has had one alx 400.

Seen unbranded 68 e400mmc on 77 , moved to Scotstoun?

 

[route101]

will be away soon.

Would be nice for it to go GVVT , even though its not originally a Glasgow bus.

 

[route101]

Interesting I wonder if they’ll brand it up like the other 77 buses. This bus will be the odd one out as it doesn’t have luggage racks like the slightly longer examples currently on the 77. Probably unpopular opinion and I can see why they went to decker operation but most 77s I see are empty during the day with about 3 turning up at a time. Bit of an issue.

The YN08 B9TLs are nice buses but could be doing with a refurb. They used to be battered on the X1/X11. It’ll be odd seeing them on city work.

77 did deserve deckers , much more comfortable now , always sit upstairs myself. Its popular going to Hospital and Ikea.

 

[NorthClyde320]

I give X2 months and that's it... It does not serve that many people, Also SPT would be better off paying for Sunday service on 72 instead of the 19a.

If the X2 lasts until the new rail station opens I think that could be the final nail in it's coffin, I can see people driving or getting a taxi to the station as it is quite a walk from the area. Agree with the Sunday service suggestion also the 72 could go back to it's old route via Saughs Ave restoring the link to/from Asda.

 

[route101]

also some SF55 and a WX55 RLEs moved to Scoutston from Caley as well as some YN08 B9s at Caley

34363/4/96 have been debranded from the 38

Seen that WX 55 RLE on x4 , elcllipse with the top hat .

Was on one of the WX 55 ones on the 31 this morning , a lot less grubby than the GLasgow natives.

 

[route101]

Yup it now wears the new liveryr

Makes the bottom of bus stand out better in the new livery and looks newer

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Seen that WX 55 RLE on x4 , elcllipse with the top hat .

Was on one of the WX 55 ones on the 31 this morning , a lot less grubby than the GLasgow natives.

Had saw one on the 2 a few weeks back and noticed how much more fresh they looked. LED lighting inside and leather seating make them look so much better. Wish this had been done to the Glasgow examples long ago.

It’ll be a hard task when the B7TLs and B7RLEs go as they are all similar ages and they make up a lot of the fleet.

 

[PaulMc7]

The 2 and 61 are definitely the best of the Parkhead routes along with the 240. The 41 and 60/60A should have had investment ages ago but it's good that things are more promising now. It's the Maryhill to Milngavie and Maryhill to Canniesburn parts of the route for the 60s that suffer the most. The 60s going east from the city centre are usually pretty busy but not reliable.

If the X2 lasts at all it'll be a miracle. Not sure where the logic behind it is especially because the only people that use the bus in Robroyston were to get to Asda or to Provanmill and Royston. Never seen the 72 that busy either so to get any success with a route through there it needs to be something that's so well pieced together. 57A or 87 extension might have worked better to Asda through Briarcroft and Glendale

 

[route101]

The 2 and 61 are definitely the best of the Parkhead routes along with the 240. The 41 and 60/60A should have had investment ages ago but it's good that things are more promising now. It's the Maryhill to Milngavie and Maryhill to Canniesburn parts of the route for the 60s that suffer the most. The 60s going east from the city centre are usually pretty busy but not reliable.

If the X2 lasts at all it'll be a miracle. Not sure where the logic behind it is especially because the only people that use the bus in Robroyston were to get to Asda or to Provanmill and Royston. Never seen the 72 that busy either so to get any success with a route through there it needs to be something that's so well pieced together. 57A or 87 extension might have worked better to Asda through Briarcroft and Glendale

2 is shared by Scotstoun im sure , though not sure of ratio.
240 is Overtown i think , do see the 240 branded buses on Blantyre routes so a bi confused .

 

[PaulMc7]

2 is shared by Scotstoun im sure , though not sure of ratio.
240 is Overtown i think , do see the 240 branded buses on Blantyre routes so a bi confused .

Yeah was meaning about them being routes through Parkhead not which depot runs them. Yeah 240 is from Blantyre on a Sunday but like you I've seen the buses for the 240 on 255s and 267s a lot recently

 

[lastbus]

Yeah was meaning about them being routes through Parkhead not which depot runs them. Yeah 240 is from Blantyre on a Sunday but like you I've seen the buses for the 240 on 255s and 267s a lot recently

240 is shared between Overtown and Blantyre. At night you’ll find 240 buses on the 255,263 and 267 as some of them are run off 240 boards. Sundays all 240s are run from Blantyre.

 

[PaulMc7]

240 is shared between Overtown and Blantyre. At night you’ll find 240 buses on the 255,263 and 267 as some of them are run off 240 boards. Sundays all 240s are run from Blantyre.

Yeah I knew about the Sunday service just completely forgot about midweek. Thanks for the info

 

[PaulMc7]

What services do you guys think will be changed or cut in January?

Got a feeling the X1 will be up for the threat of cuts again and probably a frequency reduction to the X4. The 16 is another that just seems to be quiet most of the time too. Not sure what else tbh. Will be interesting to see what happens with the X2 as well

 

[overthewater]

What services do you guys think will be changed or cut in January?

Got a feeling the X1 will be up for the threat of cuts again and probably a frequency reduction to the X4. The 16 is another that just seems to be quiet most of the time too. Not sure what else tbh. Will be interesting to see what happens with the X2 as well

Changes in Jan will have to go on over the next four 4 depending on when there take place Ie this week for first week in Jan or end of the month for 26th Jan, which means the X1 and x2 are not changing this time around.

 

[PaulMc7]

Changes in Jan will have to go on over the next four 4 depending on when there take place Ie this week for first week in Jan or end of the month for 26th Jan, which means the X1 and x2 are not changing this time around.

Yeah they'll definitely have eyes firmly on the numbers for them at the very least. Can't imagine many people using them

 

[Jordan Adam]

Changes in Jan will have to go on over the next four 4 depending on when there take place Ie this week for first week in Jan or end of the month for 26th Jan, which means the X1 and x2 are not changing this time around.

Yeah they'll definitely have eyes firmly on the numbers for them at the very least. Can't imagine many people using them

I'd suspect any changes would probably be closer to Q2 of 2020 (April-ish)

 

[PaulMc7]

I'd suspect any changes would probably be closer to Q2 of 2020 (April-ish)

Think there's been mentions of January changes on here already but I expect it to probably just be January-April/May-August-October again

 

[Volvodart]

They seem to be going back to perpetual changes after a couple of years when nothing much changed really.

 

[lastbus]

What services do you guys think will be changed or cut in January?

Got a feeling the X1 will be up for the threat of cuts again and probably a frequency reduction to the X4. The 16 is another that just seems to be quiet most of the time too. Not sure what else tbh. Will be interesting to see what happens with the X2 as well

There will be changes in January 100% however the X1 will not be one of them as they said they will give it 3-4 months.

 

[Jordan Adam]

Aberdeens "stolen" B7RLEs 69110 and 69122 have transferred to Glasgow. I'm sure this will please the local "veg" as it means the gap between 69109 and 69111 is finally filled!

69110/122 were part of a group of 4 B7RLEs (69110/122/123/124) originally intended for Glasgow, however they were diverted on delivery to Aberdeen in order to allow for the Service 5 to be relaunched on a doubled frequency as the "Lime Green Line" in time for the new Uni Term in Summer 2006. All 4 were actually delivered to Glasgow with local SF06 plates (see below), however were transferred quite swiftly re-registered with Aberdeen plates (SV06) prior to entering service.

Flickr user Prisma Aberdeen has uploaded a rare set of photos that show 69110 and 69122 at Aberdeen not longer after delivery still carrying their original Glasgow registration plates.

The original Glasgow plates were as follows.
69110: SF06GZW > SV06GRF
69122: SF06HBD > SV06GRK
69123: SF06HBE > SV06GRU
69124: SF05HBG > SV06GRX

Of course Glasgow later that same year (2006) received 66988-91, the vehicles originally intended for Aberdeen.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Aberdeens "stolen" B7RLEs 69110 and 69122 have transferred to Glasgow. I'm sure this will please the local "veg" as it means the gap between 69109 and 69111 is finally filled!

69110/122 were part of a group of 4 B7RLEs (69110/122/123/124) originally intended for Glasgow, however they were diverted on delivery to Aberdeen in order to allow for the Service 5 to be relaunched on a doubled frequency as the "Lime Green Line" in time for the new Uni Term in Summer 2006. All 4 were actually delivered to Glasgow with local SF06 plates (see below), however were transferred quite swiftly re-registered with Aberdeen plates (SV06) prior to entering service.

Flickr user Prisma Aberdeen has uploaded a rare set of photos that show 69110 and 69122 at Aberdeen not longer after delivery still carrying their original Glasgow registration plates.

The original Glasgow plates were as follows.
69110: SF06GZW > SV06GRF
69122: SF06HBD > SV06GRK
69123: SF06HBE > SV06GRU
69124: SF05HBG > SV06GRX

Of course Glasgow later that same year (2006) received 66988-91, the vehicles originally intended for Aberdeen.

Does Glasgow really need more B7RLEs? Aren’t we trying to get rid of the Euro 3 stock... I presume they’re trying to oust more of the B10BLEs?

Also are the service changes with Aberdeen the reason for their redundant stock being able to come down to Glasgow?

PS the B7RLEs looked great when new. They were such great buses but very tired now sadly.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

Does Glasgow really need more B7RLEs? Aren’t we trying to get rid of the Euro 3 stock... I presume they’re trying to oust more of the B10BLEs?

Also are the service changes with Aberdeen the reason for their redundant stock being able to come down to Glasgow?

PS the B7RLEs looked great when new. They were such great buses but very tired now sadly.

That is doubtless the aim; they'll just be a temporary measure to remove the last of the very oldest single decks.