On a point of order, would the owner of theinfrastruturearena not be implicated in some way if the injuries sustained were far more severe than would be expected due to the condition of the canvas?
Not good enough. In the grand scheme of things I am unhappy that one of the combatants seems to have in part fallen off, lest worse should happen in a far more serious contest.
As in move it to Newton Aycliffe or is somewhere else in the frame...
Not good enough. In the grand scheme of things I am unhappy that one of the combatants seems to have in part fallen off, lest worse should happen in a far more serious contest.
I might though be satisfied in this instance by a report or digest from the UBC (Ultimate Board of Control) telling me it was down to the condition of the canvas.
Anecdotally, it appears usual to try and put accident damaged stock away from the public gaze. Personally, I would be surprised if a decision to move to a known 'elsewhere' had been taken yet, and if it had the move(s) still needs to be planned, paths agreed with NR, etc.
I noticed on the photos of 800109 that the 2nd and third coaches were both derailed to the right hand side in relation to direction of travel and both moved sideways the same distance. I believe what may have happened was that in the sudden stop caused by the impact the rear ends of both these vehicles momentarily lifted up from the track. In this instant when the wheels would have been clear of the rails, this then allowed the dampers between the vehicle ends and coupling bars to extend, moving the ends of the vehicles sideways.
) it's time to get back to treating the topic seriously so if those taking part could call it quits that would be greatly appreciated.The Azuma was on neville hill yesterday when I passed from York.behind the emr hst’s with black plastic covering the damage.
The “driving trailers” are heavier than the other trailers because the former contain the transformers. There are also the various motor vehicles which include the tensest, they’ll also be heavier than a pure trailer. Apologies if you know this, but “driving” refers to the cab position, not the motors.
Impressive damage job, on the 80x, shattered front end coupling broken up and first 3-4 coaches derailed and hst just gets battered nose and front end. Not what you want on a new train to the fleet. Guessing the set will slip back to newton aycliffe factory for assessment and repair.
Yeah.... the Class 43 got of lightly.....
That’s what I was thinking when noting the track layout under the middle of the train in an earlier post, but no-one seems to be in a position to confirm.
But it is concerning given the speeds involved (~10mph AIUI) that this has caused the IET to derail. Less bothered about the cab - that is merely decorative on top of the structure underneath - but the damage further down the set does pose some real questions for Hitachi.
So is an HST. But that stayed on the rails.
The HST was stationary and parked on a straigh length of track as far as I know. The Azuma was traveling across a set of points, so I’d have thought due to the clearance between each unit there would have been a brief moment where the front of the train was stationary and the rear was still pushing forward possibly pushing bogies from the forward units off the rails?
My theory, if the crumple zone is to protect the driver’s safety cell much better than earlier designs, it has to be much longer, with more steelwork components designed to progressively collapse. So there’ll be bound to be more length to the visible damage to the non-structural aerodynamic fairings that surround the couplings etc.
