Passenger service to Haymarket depot

[Ben Bow]

Except for open days, I've never noticed a passenger service to a depot before, good idea - presumably restricted to depot workers only after Haymarket Station?

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/M11870/2019-11-20/detailed

 

[DarloRich]

it is rather obviously a fault with the data

 

[Ben Bow]

How is it obvious?

 

[matt]

Is this not a path for HST training?

 

[Lockwood]

Because you don't get passenger services to depots?

 

[pdeaves]

Except for open days, I've never noticed a passenger service to a depot before, good idea - presumably restricted to depot workers only after Haymarket Station?

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/M11870/2019-11-20/detailed

Probably the inputter forgot/couldn't be narked to mark/code it as an empty stock move (or at least the last leg).

 

[Ben Bow]

I seem to recall that both Wimbledon and Longsight had their own staff halts on the mainline. There was a shuttle too between Padd and Old Oak. I don't see why a service for depot workers can't be provided by what would otherwise be ECS to the depot.

 

[pdeaves]

I seem to recall that both Wimbledon and Longsight had their own staff halts on the mainline. There was a shuttle too between Padd and Old Oak. I don't see why a service for depot workers can't be provided by what would otherwise be ECS to the depot.

As an aside, there are current staff halts at:
Battersea Pier;
Durnsford Road;
Fratton;
Hoo Junction.

There was apparently one at Northam (Southampton) depot but there was no evidence of one when I visited at the recent open day.

 

[30907]

How is it obvious?

Two lengthy stops in loops make it pretty useless for normal passengers!

 

[3973EXL]

There was a shuttle too between Padd and Old Oak.

Old Oak to Padd was a mini bus. I did see a loco occasionally used.

As an aside, there are current staff halts at:

Hoo Junction.

Been out of use for years. Probably since BR days.

 

[DarloRich]

How is it obvious?

really? You don't get passenger services to depots. Surely that is fairly obvious. Where would the passengers get off?

I seem to recall that both Wimbledon and Longsight had their own staff halts on the mainline. There was a shuttle too between Padd and Old Oak. I don't see why a service for depot workers can't be provided by what would otherwise be ECS to the depot.

But, and again rather obviously, that wouldn't be advertised to norms!

 

[Ben Bow]

How do the train crew get off once the train is on the depot? They're not stuck on it until it leaves the depot again.... the mind boggles.

really? You don't get passenger services to depots. Surely that is fairly obvious. Where would the passengers get off?



But, and again rather obviously, that wouldn't be advertised to norms!

 

[800002]

It's unadvertised ordinary passenger, meaning its likely a staff train.

It's also an STP schedule that's been put in for the SX between 14 Oct till end of the Timetable Period.

Edit: http://charlwoodhouse.co.uk/rail/liverail/train/17316261/18/11/19

 

[DarloRich]

How do the train crew get off once the train is on the depot? They're not stuck on it until it leaves the depot again.... the mind boggles.

The staff, once again rather obviously, climb down. Do you honestly think that Doris and Dennis are going to climb down with their baggage? I suspect you are on a WUM.

 

[pdeaves]

Been out of use for years. Probably since BR days.

Still shown as live in the sectional appendix (that doesn't mean anything stops, though!).

 

[800002]

Still shown as live in the sectional appendix (that doesn't mean anything stops, though!).

Think it's more of a point to stop and welcome incoming trains into the yards.

 

[Ben Bow]

The staff, once again rather obviously, climb down. Do you honestly think that Doris and Dennis are going to climb down with their baggage? I suspect you are on a WUM.

But I haven't suggested that gen public would be conveyed onto the depot, only authorised people who work at the depot. I put to you - how do you think cleaners and other staff get their equipment into the saloons - I'll give you a hint - it isn't from the ballast and through the driving cab....

 

[DarloRich]

But I haven't suggested that gen public would be conveyed onto the depot, only authorised people who work at the depot. I put to you - how do you think cleaners and other staff get their equipment into the saloons - I'll give you a hint - it isn't from the ballast and through the driving cab....

Sigh. i know perfectly well how they do it, thanks. I am out.

 

[v199629]

There was apparently one at Northam (Southampton) depot but there was no evidence of one when I visited at the recent open day.

Northam is a Drivers only depot and most drivers are either taxi from Southampton Central to the depot or pass on a train (rare) and get off at the siding.

 

[Taunton]

Eastbound regular Jubilee Line trains sometimes stop at the short staff platform alongside Stratford Market depot; staff, travelling in the front saloon, get on/off by the driver's door.

 

[Ianno87]

Probably the inputter forgot/couldn't be narked to mark/code it as an empty stock move (or at least the last leg).

Trains at Liverpool Street have been advertised as "King's Lynn & Cambridge CSD" accidentally before for similar reasons.

 

[Esker-pades]

The train in question is a training run, as @matt stated originally. There are plenty of those in the system around Scotland. They have been around for well over a year now.

The public are not able to use it, despite having a 'passenger' headcode.

 

[Darandio]

How is it obvious?

How do the train crew get off once the train is on the depot? They're not stuck on it until it leaves the depot again.... the mind boggles.

But I haven't suggested that gen public would be conveyed onto the depot, only authorised people who work at the depot. I put to you - how do you think cleaners and other staff get their equipment into the saloons - I'll give you a hint - it isn't from the ballast and through the driving cab....

And despite all of this guff, it still isn't a passenger service.