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[AndrewTaylor95]

I always thought the 6A covered the old 20 and the 3 covered the old 23 then the 9 which used to run to Drumchapel before Simplicity was introduced?

Aye your right about the 9 I completely forgot about it I don't know why, aye the 3 covers the old 9 route from the Drum and then along Lincoln Avenue and Dumbarton Road. The 23 was a strange one cause it went to Blairdardie and then into Temple along Fulton Street then along the Crow Road through Broomhill and into Partick the way the 16 goes just now, and then it used to join the other 23 coming from Summerston at the time cause the route split at Church Street, was always L113 Scanias on that route aswell

 

[PaulMc7]

At one point for Blairdardie and Summerston we also had the 19 going to Summerston and the 19A to Blairdardie.

I'm surprised the current 16 has been so quiet but the problem is that Rotherwood is right beside Westerton Train Station and Jordanhill hasn't been a good bus area since I left school in 2012. They need to do something different with a route through there and I wouldn't be surprised if it eventually got cut down further as it's not busy to the hospital either off peak.

As for the 3 it's just way too long a route. A 2 hour plus route just leads to absolutely horrendous reliability and it's another they could easily cut down a lot

 

[JumpinTrainz]

What’s the deal with 69065? Saw a photo of it in a rather sorry state and it’s been mentioned it has been withdrawn? Is this for good or is it going in for lengthy repair?

 

[Jackthebusdude]

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/glasgow-bus-drivers-pay

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[JumpinTrainz]

Aye your right about the 9 I completely forgot about it I don't know why, aye the 3 covers the old 9 route from the Drum and then along Lincoln Avenue and Dumbarton Road. The 23 was a strange one cause it went to Blairdardie and then into Temple along Fulton Street then along the Crow Road through Broomhill and into Partick the way the 16 goes just now, and then it used to join the other 23 coming from Summerston at the time cause the route split at Church Street, was always L113 Scanias on that route aswell

I really liked the Scania L113s. I remember them when they were at Parkhead they were good buses and have good memories of them as well as the B10BLEs, L94s and B10LAs. Good old days

 

[PaulMc7]

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/glasgow-bus-drivers-pay

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Great news for the drivers but I think we can all safely say this will just lead to another price increase in coming months for customers

 

[lastbus]

Great news for the drivers but I think we can all safely say this will just lead to another price increase in coming months for customers

Only good news if your a new driver. Existing staff are getting nothing.

 

[PaulMc7]

Only good news if your a new driver. Existing staff are getting nothing.

Yeah true. The main problem here for drivers seems to be the excessive hours they need to do. Any time I am on a bus that changes driver they seem to say to each other how they're doing 6/7 days a week and sometimes all 10/11 hour shifts

 

[route101]

the low height deckers are as slow as hell pulling away slow doors etc they are a nightmare to drive on the 6 especially on great western rd where traffic is murder i had a dart on it on monday and it was a joy to drive

Dart on a 6 ?

Yeah , the low heights seem fragile.

 

[route101]

I really liked the Scania L113s. I remember them when they were at Parkhead they were good buses and have good memories of them as well as the B10BLEs, L94s and B10LAs. Good old days

The B10bles can shift .

There was a B10BLE at Buchanan Bus Station yesterday , anyone know why? As Dumbarton dont run them into there.

Scanias , they didn't look the part especially from the rear.

 

[route101]

Yeah true. The main problem here for drivers seems to be the excessive hours they need to do. Any time I am on a bus that changes driver they seem to say to each other how they're doing 6/7 days a week and sometimes all 10/11 hour shifts

Dont the drivers do split shifts or something>

 

[route101]

The only problems the 7/7A have are that they're not very reliable at all due to city centre and Cadder and that the Rutherglen to Westburn section on the 7A is never that busy. The narrow streets with horrendously parked cars in Cadder holds a lot of them up when it's busier

The road closure at the Brazen Head has resulted in services like the 5 . 6 and 7 being diverted via Butterbiggins road plus a lane closure for that new retail park. Delays coming into town on the 31 this moring

 

[route101]

I was behind an E400 on the 2 tonight and it was fairly speedy down Baillieston Rd. I quite like the low height examples if I’m honest they are quiet and comfortable enough as a passenger. My only gripe with them is the leather seated examples are beyond slippy and you spend the majority of your journey trying to keep yourself on the seat!

So many deckers on the 2 now. Almost every second bus I saw today was a decker! E400s and B9TLs galore. So odd to see as the 3 has been fully decker operated since 2012.

Yeah, slippy nickys i call them. Not many of the hybrids now though. Noticed a few deckers on the 2 , shame its all going to go e300.

 

[route101]

Just saw an 09 plate B9TL on the 2 again. Deckers are becoming more and more frequent.

The high seated geminis often on it to

 

[route101]

Yeah it goes through a lot of areas that have loads of buses that take away from it. The only bit that doesn't have loads is Prospecthill Road because of just the M2 and 90 but it's too late in the route towards Rutherglen to be a big customer drive because it doesn't go any further than 10 mins away. If anything maybe swapping the 7A and 7 over from Aikenhead Road might be the smarter idea although then just swap the frequency around so it's a short 7A to Rutherglen, a long 7A to Westburn via Prospecthill Road and then a 7 through Kings Park to Rutherglen

I recall the 12 going around the circus at Toryglen.

 

[PaulMc7]

Dont the drivers do split shifts or something>

Not sure about them all but I've heard a few say they've not done split shifts and worked from 6am to 6pm

 

[PaulMc7]

I recall the 12 going around the circus at Toryglen.

Yeah I remember that too. Don't really see any bus doing that again anytime soon

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Have some of the E200MMCs transferred to Blantyre from Caledonia? Haven’t seen any on the 2 at all. It’s mainly deckers and E300s.

 

[Scott mac]

Have some of the E200MMCs transferred to Blantyre from Caledonia? Haven’t seen any on the 2 at all. It’s mainly deckers and E300s.

Don't think so as the e200mmc are now on any routes like the 5 10 57 57a and the kirky routes

 

[PaulMc7]

Don't think so as the e200mmc are now on any routes like the 5 10 57 57a and the kirky routes

Been good seeing other services get a shot of them tbh. Will probably just be used on whatever services need them most to cover maintenance

 

[69036]

E200 MMCs are being used far and wide across the network henerally, although 67068 and 67069 are indeed now at Blantyre

 

[ScotRail158725]

What’s the deal with 69065? Saw a photo of it in a rather sorry state and it’s been mentioned it has been withdrawn? Is this for good or is it going in for lengthy repair?

any pictures?

 

[Jordan Adam]

Looks to be getting stripped.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/185477935@N03/49134636173

 

[ScotRail158725]

Looks to be getting stripped.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/185477935@N03/49134636173

spares for the rest of the fleet?

 

[Bluebirdscot66]

Not sure about them all but I've heard a few say they've not done split shifts and worked from 6am to 6pm

Glasgow call them spread over shifts . Generally time on shift spread over 12 hrs - 12 n half hrs some have up to 3 bits of driving somewhere close to 10 hrs in them . Whereas through in the east , Larbert bannock burn etc they have split shifts with breaks in the duties sometimes up to 4 n half hrs off in between driving. Different conditions attached to pay meaning midland drivers get paid an allowance over a certain length ( spread ) whereas the Glasgow drivers can be double booked off ( 2 meal breaks )

 

[Jordan Adam]

spares for the rest of the fleet?

Possibly, if it's suffered major mechanical failure then i'm not surprised they've just taken it off service given it's almost 14 years old.

 

[lastbus]

Yeah true. The main problem here for drivers seems to be the excessive hours they need to do. Any time I am on a bus that changes driver they seem to say to each other how they're doing 6/7 days a week and sometimes all 10/11 hour shifts

Most drivers get to choose their rota based on seniority but a new driver is put on a spare rota. It’s probably new starts you are hearing moaning.

 

[PaulMc7]

Most drivers get to choose their rota based on seniority but a new driver is put on a spare rota. It’s probably new starts you are hearing moaning.

Yeah possibly although there's a few I still recognise from a good 10/12 years ago that still drive services around where I stay.

Used to be the 42/62/66 with the 204/205/215/216 back in the day near me

Now the 1/1A/1B/1C/1D/1E and the 2 and 6

 

[Scotrail314209]

I've been seeing some deckers on the 9/9A recently, is this meant to be happening, or is it just coincidence?

 

[Jordan Adam]

Yeah possibly although there's a few I still recognise from a good 10/12 years ago that still drive services around where I stay.

Not entirely related to this thread but a close relative of mine has been driving for First Aberdeen and it's predecessors for nearly 45 years