LNER HST Withdrawals

BRX · 27 Nov 2019

HamworthyGoods said:
Sunday 8th last northbound Chieftain HST
Monday 9th last southbound Chieftain HST
Monday 9th first northbound Chieftain IET
Tuesday 10th first southbound Chieftain IET

Thank you. Is this a fairly definite plan, do you know, or liable to change?

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HamworthyGoods · 28 Nov 2019

BRX said:
Thank you. Is this a fairly definite plan, do you know, or liable to change?

As definite as railway plans can be!

BR 45111 · 28 Nov 2019

It states in the latest Railway Herald that LNER are footing the bill for the HST repaint , not sure what’s going to happen when LNER dispense with it .

Stathern Jc · 30 Nov 2019

BRX said:
Does anyone know what the arrangement will be for the switchover of the Highland Chieftain?

First Azuma is down as 9th Dec which is a Monday - so does that mean there will be an HST southbound and Azuma northbound on that day... or will the last HSTs be on the Sunday 8th, in both directions?

I'm hoping HamworthyGoods's reply at Post 181 is correct, it sounds ok.

I've a ticket for the Chieftain to Perth on Monday 9th. It was only a couple of weeks ago that I found Advance tickets and seating reservations available. The seat reservations are as for HST coaches so it does sound hopeful that I can get the last "full size" HST up to Slochd. I had wondered whether there might have been hesitance in case the weekend engineering work needed to be extended?
Bought a ticket in October to come back from Newcastle on the 9th on what should be the first service Azuma into Inverness, but getting through to Newcastle on the Chieftain for a sensible fare wasn't possible at that time. So heading across to Dundee and getting 1E15(?) ex Aberdeen from Dundee to Newcastle for a bargain Advance 1st (less that it would have been getting the same train at Waverly), and seat reservations are also as for HST coaches. So looking forward to a good day out.

Just wondering (please point me in the right direction if it's been mentioned up thread). Are the last HST services from Aberdeen around the same time?

Speed43125 · 30 Nov 2019

BR 45111 said:
It states in the latest Railway Herald that LNER are footing the bill for the HST repaint , not sure what’s going to happen when LNER dispense with it .

Ah. LNER seem quite willing to embark on expensive publicity stuff. Such as bringing Mallard out and what not. Very interesting. Especially as EMR are just replacing LNER stickers with EMR ones.

BRX · 30 Nov 2019

Stathern Jc said:
I'm hoping HamworthyGoods's reply at Post 181 is correct, it sounds ok.

I've a ticket for the Chieftain to Perth on Monday 9th. It was only a couple of weeks ago that I found Advance tickets and seating reservations available. The seat reservations are as for HST coaches so it does sound hopeful that I can get the last "full size" HST up to Slochd. I had wondered whether there might have been hesitance in case the weekend engineering work needed to be extended?
Bought a ticket in October to come back from Newcastle on the 9th on what should be the first service Azuma into Inverness, but getting through to Newcastle on the Chieftain for a sensible fare wasn't possible at that time. So heading across to Dundee and getting 1E15(?) ex Aberdeen from Dundee to Newcastle for a bargain Advance 1st (less that it would have been getting the same train at Waverly), and seat reservations are also as for HST coaches. So looking forward to a good day out.

Just wondering (please point me in the right direction if it's been mentioned up thread). Are the last HST services from Aberdeen around the same time?

I think the last Aberdeen ones are a week later.

Class455 · 1 Dec 2019

43274 and 43302 have both been given EMR branding and were moved from Craigentinny to Gascoigne Wood Sidings for store on Friday

Stathern Jc · 1 Dec 2019

BRX said:
I think the last Aberdeen ones are a week later.

Thanks.
That saves trawling through the LNER booking site to see what seats show.

7522 · 2 Dec 2019

Does anyone know about set EC57?

Is this set currently still in use with LNER? And is this one of the sets going to EMR?

43096 · 2 Dec 2019

7522 said:
Does anyone know about set EC57?

Is this set currently still in use with LNER? And is this one of the sets going to EMR?

Yes and I believe yes.

7522 · 2 Dec 2019

43096 said:
Yes and I believe yes.

Thanks!

BR 45111 · 5 Dec 2019

Announced in latest Railway Herald :
The last northbound HST LNER Service will be on 15th December- the 1935 Kings Cross - Leeds
The last southbound will be 1705 Harrogate- Kings Cross

swt_passenger · 5 Dec 2019

BR 45111 said:
Announced in latest Railway Herald :
The last northbound HST LNER Service will be on 15th December- the 1935 Kings Cross - Leeds
The last southbound will be 1705 Harrogate- Kings Cross

There’s also an ongoing discussion of the reducing HSTs services in this thread, if anyone isn’t aware:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/remaining-lner-hst-services.174019/page-4

55002 · 6 Dec 2019

First ex LNER set just about to leave Neville Hill bound for Ely, travelling down ECML. 43315/367 and EC55

LNER 43367 · 6 Dec 2019

55002 said:
First ex LNER set just about to leave Neville Hill bound for Ely, travelling down ECML. 43315/367 and EC55

Are they not going to EMR?

DanNCL · 6 Dec 2019

LNER 43367 said:
Are they not going to EMR?

Not all of them. Only 9(?) sets are going to EMR

50039 · 6 Dec 2019

Just had a day on the ECML, travelled on both HST and Mk4.... can’t help but think the HSTs are in much better condition than the 91 / Mk.4 combination.... maybe goes some way to explaining why the HSTs are off to storage for possible re-use, whilst the Mk4s are off to Booths...

LNER 43367 · 6 Dec 2019

DanNCL said:
Not all of them. Only 9(?) sets are going to EMR

Just seems odd 43367 isn't going as that is the newest one LNER had. It was only 38 years old (built in 1981).

NoMorePacers · 7 Dec 2019

LNER 43367 said:
Just seems odd 43367 isn't going as that is the newest one LNER had. It was only 38 years old (built in 1981).

Although it may very well be one of the more rusted examples.

43096 · 7 Dec 2019

LNER 43367 said:
Just seems odd 43367 isn't going as that is the newest one LNER had. It was only 38 years old (built in 1981).

Not odd at all. Decisions are made based on engineering reasons, such as when it is next due bogie change, when the engine is next due QL3 or QL4 overhaul etc etc.

Richard Scott · 7 Dec 2019

As an aside isn't 43367 a likely candidate for power car to have had the highest number of different engine designs - believe it had Paxman Valenta, Mirrless MB190, Paxman VP185 (fairly sure it was fitted) then MTU 4000? Happy to be proved right or wrong.

43096 · 7 Dec 2019

Richard Scott said:
As an aside isn't 43367 a likely candidate for power car to have had the highest number of different engine designs - believe it had Paxman Valenta, Mirrless MB190, Paxman VP185 (fairly sure it was fitted) then MTU 4000? Happy to be proved right or wrong.

43167-170 have all carried all the engine types, but 43167/367 shades it as it went Valenta > MB190 > VP185 > Valenta > MTU 4000.

sprinterguy · 7 Dec 2019

DanNCL said:
Not all of them. Only 9(?) sets are going to EMR

Indeed; Six of the ten Angel Trains sets and three of the five Porterbrook sets. For completeness I think that Locomotive Services are interested in one of the unaccounted for Angel Trains sets and the remaining two Porterbrook sets are reportedly going for scrap.

DarloRich · 7 Dec 2019

LNER 43367 said:
Just seems odd 43367 isn't going as that is the newest one LNER had. It was only 38 years old (built in 1981).

They will take the ones neededing the least engineering time spent on them.

The ine above might be due an overhaul or major component replacement. It might just be finished.

433N · 7 Dec 2019

sprinterguy said:
Indeed; Six of the ten Angel Trains sets and three of the five Porterbrook sets. For completeness I think that Locomotive Services are interested in one of the unaccounted for Angel Trains sets and the remaining two Porterbrook sets are reportedly going for scrap.

I notice that 43206 and 43312 which are having cosmetic surgery for the farewell tour are Angel owned. Expensive paint job to original livery. Don't suppose LSL would be interested in that set at all !

sprinterguy · 7 Dec 2019

433N said:
I notice that 43206 and 43312 which are having cosmetic surgery for the farewell tour are Angel owned. Expensive paint job to original livery. Don't suppose LSL would be interested in that set at all !

Reportedly Richard Clinnick of RAIL magazine asked LSL if they were interested specifically in the repainted set and the response was that considerations as to individual vehicles were ongoing. Though they would say something like that if not ready to make a public announcement anyway.

Winthorpe · 7 Dec 2019

BRX said:
Thank you. Is this a fairly definite plan, do you know, or liable to change?

I received an email from LNER advertising the 'last hurrah of our Inter-City 125' The message confirmed the schedule for the special farewell tour:

There is a webpage with full details and for booking tickets.

https://www.ukrailtours.com/product...tm_campaign=Service_HST-Fairwell-Tour_Dec2019

jaketaylor · 8 Dec 2019

Sorry If this has already been asked, but is 43313 still at Bounds Green or has it been moved? Thanks.

route101 · 8 Dec 2019

Booked onto the 1400 Edinburgh to Newcastle HST on the 15th. Going in 1st for the first time on HST.

73128 · 8 Dec 2019

any idea please of rear PC on 1E15 (0952 ABD-KGX) on Saturday 7 December please? (43257 at south end)

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