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Anglian95

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Good opportunity that! Good firm to work for aswell I have a mate on there from King's x to! 68k I believe with good benifits
 

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Any KingsX drivers pls tell me all about it, and would you recommend it?

Pls

And anyone got Recruitment's email pls?
 
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Stigy

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Maybe they mean non-NR infrastructure ? LU or other underground networks ?
Ordinarily I’d say it means inner London type services, but in that context I agree it probably means underground services.
 

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What do they actually mean by not metro driving ?

Certain train companies such as Eurostar, Underground and depot drivers etc (apart from a short stretch of line) aren't actually qualified to drive on Network rail mainlines.

I'm guessing it means they're looking for applicants fully competent in NR rules and regulations. Staff like depot drivers don't really do the full mainline train drivers course when they're trained.
 

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Metro driving is companys like arriva rail london and mtr crossrail they are inner london drivers and not mainline so they wont be considered for the job.Hope this helps.
 

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Metro driving is companys like arriva rail london and mtr crossrail they are inner london drivers and not mainline so they wont be considered for the job.Hope this helps.

Totally wrong. Both are driven on network rail mainline infrastructure. It’s LUL, Trams (light rail), depot drivers etc
 

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They are talking about someone who holds a licence nothing to do with the underground tram or light rail.They want experience in mainline long distance driving and not inter city metro work.This was the information passed on by one of the drivers i had asked could be wrong but made sense.
 

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They are talking about someone who holds a licence nothing to do with the underground tram or light rail.They want experience in mainline long distance driving and not inter city metro work.This was the information passed on by one of the drivers i had asked could be wrong but made sense.
Surely in this instance, Metro refers to what has been stated (Underground for example)? The reason being because your licence wouldn’t be transferable from LU to mainline. Drivers of Metro services in terms of train services in inner London would be able to go straight in as a qualified driver as they’d still hold a European Train Driving Licence?
 

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I think on this instance they are already talking about someone who holds a european licence and depot drivers do hold the same licence except the counterpart is different from a mainline driver.I also agree someone who does inner london service on NR network should be able to go in as a qualified driver but what i have been told is that the experience side of things is that they want someone who does mainline long distance.I think a quick call to HR can clarify this better.
 

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I think on this instance they are already talking about someone who holds a european licence and depot drivers do hold the same licence except the counterpart is different from a mainline driver.I also agree someone who does inner london service on NR network should be able to go in as a qualified driver but what i have been told is that the experience side of things is that they want someone who does mainline long distance.I think a quick call to HR can clarify this better.
I know Depot Drivers hold a European licence, maybe that wasn’t the best example on my part. What I was getting at is that LU drivers do not hold the same licence as mainline drivers, and depot drivers aren’t trained to mainline standards (most of the time) in terms of rules training.

You may be completely right, it just seems bizarre.
 

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Im not sure to be honest what the driver from LNER said to me is that as LNER run services on long distance mainline so they look for drivers who have experience in driving long distance then just inter city where a whole rounder is like 45 minutes.I think best would be just to ask the company as the description doesnt do much justice.
 

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Totally wrong. Both are driven on network rail mainline infrastructure. It’s LUL, Trams (light rail), depot drivers etc

Surely in this instance, Metro refers to what has been stated (Underground for example)? The reason being because your licence wouldn’t be transferable from LU to mainline. Drivers of Metro services in terms of train services in inner London would be able to go straight in as a qualified driver as they’d still hold a European Train Driving Licence?

That’s my reading of it too.

The fact they equate “metro” with depot driving indicates it means something akin to tube driving.

A “mainline” driver just means someone qualified to drive on NR metals - so that would cover someone driving for ARL or the “metro” bits of the Southern or Thameslink network, for example.

The most important thing will no doubt be a clean safety of the line record.
 
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Im not sure to be honest what the driver from LNER said to me is that as LNER run services on long distance mainline so they look for drivers who have experience in driving long distance then just inter city where a whole rounder is like 45 minutes.I think best would be just to ask the company as the description doesnt do much justice.
What a load of rubbish this is, I have driven local stuff, now I do intercity routes comparable with LNER stuff (ply to london) and I am of the opinion the local stopping stuff is just as challenging as long distance. If anything long distance is easier, so I really don't by this companies wanting long distance experience cr*p.
 

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They haven't said anything about high speed or long distance driving. The actual wording is:

"A productive, qualified mainline Driver for at least 3 years from date of initial qualification (this does not include depot or metro driving)"

The reason they've said this is simple, the vast majority of depot and metro drivers are not fully trained in rules and regs and would therefore probably effectively need to be treated as trainee drivers, when it clearly states they're recruiting qualified drivers.
 

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I'm London Overground and fully trained in rules. I'm not three years in though and not looking to move , I just wondered. One of our lads is starting with Eurostar next month. Several went to EMR , one tpe , one cross-country. No one I know of has gone to lner so I was just curious . Wasn't looking to start a row lol.
 

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I'm London Overground and fully trained in rules. I'm not three years in though and not looking to move , I just wondered. One of our lads is starting with Eurostar next month. Several went to EMR , one tpe , one cross-country. No one I know of has gone to lner so I was just curious . Wasn't looking to start a row lol.

I know mate and neither am I, a few people just seem to be getting a bit frantic about it when to me it's a fairly logical and understandable caveat to put in the advert.
 

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What a load of rubbish this is, I have driven local stuff, now I do intercity routes comparable with LNER stuff (ply to london) and I am of the opinion the local stopping stuff is just as challenging as long distance. If anything long distance is easier, so I really don't by this companies wanting long distance experience cr*p.
I agree. If anything, local stopping services are more prone to risk with the amount of stop/start work and signals in close proximity.
 

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Surely in this instance, Metro refers to what has been stated (Underground for example)? The reason being because your licence wouldn’t be transferable from LU to mainline. Drivers of Metro services in terms of train services in inner London would be able to go straight in as a qualified driver as they’d still hold a European Train Driving Licence?

LU aren't Drivers.
 

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Metro driving is companys like arriva rail london and mtr crossrail they are inner london drivers and not mainline so they wont be considered for the job.Hope this helps.

MTR Crossrail are "inner london drivers" are they? Last time I checked, MTR Elizabeth Line drove 90mph to Reading.
 

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I interpret metro as Tram, LUL and Tyne and Wear Metro.

Any mainline qualified driver is suitable for this position.
 

tlionhart

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That’s how I interpret it. Overground is mainline driving.

I wouldn’t go by “My friend said” or “I know a driver...”
If you hold a Train Drivers license under NR, apply!
I interpret metro as Tram, LUL and Tyne and Wear Metro.

Any mainline qualified driver is suitable for this position.
 
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