LNER HST Withdrawals

[sprinterguy]

Has the blue / grey set been completed for next week> Any pics yet?

There's a video on Twitter of 42243/242 and 44098 being shunted at Doncaster here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/wallygridboy/status/1204725810051067904

I've also seen a photo of 40720 painted, but can't find it again.

 

[hexagon789]

Anyone know why 43208 is reportedly off to the knacker's yard instead of going to EMR?

Thanks

 

[43096]

Anyone know why 43208 is reportedly off to the knacker's yard instead of going to EMR?

Thanks

Because it is in poorer condition than others.

 

[hexagon789]

Because it is in poorer condition than others.

Cheers

 

[55002]

43314 and 43319 heading up east coast ECS to Craigentinny now after coming out of service on Monday. Just past retford.

43317 and 43290 on 0730 EDB-KX which started at Newcastle today. Will do 1306 KGX-YRK, 1602 YRK-KGX and1906 KGX-LCN

43318 and 43257 on 1003 KGX-LDS, 1245 LDS-KGX and 1600 KGX-ABD

 

[Helvellyn]

There's a video on Twitter of 42243/242 and 44098 being shunted at Doncaster here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/wallygridboy/status/1204725810051067904

I've also seen a photo of 40720 painted, but can't find it again.

They look good. It's a great gesture by LNER to celebrate 41 years of HST operation on the East Coast. It's just a shame that the grey band looks a little shallow - the door handles appear to have been put in the lower blue of the bodyside but on the original blue/grey livery the door handles were within the bottom of the grey band.

https://mark-beal-tmd.smugmug.com/RetrospectiveRail/Retrospective-Class-47/i-zgDMcmN/A

 

[Ilkley333]

Debranded LNER HST just been through Leeds on its way to Ely I think. Didn’t see the numbers but a sad sight to see it going.

 

[Neptune]

They look good. It's a great gesture by LNER to celebrate 41 years of HST operation on the East Coast. It's just a shame that the grey band looks a little shallow - the door handles appear to have been put in the lower blue of the bodyside but on the original blue/grey livery the door handles were within the bottom of the grey band.

https://mark-beal-tmd.smugmug.com/RetrospectiveRail/Retrospective-Class-47/i-zgDMcmN/A

That’s what I thought. It just doesn’t look right. Such a shame as they had just one job....

 

[MikeMorton22]

As far as I understand the blue went further up on the inter-city 125 Mk3s, and the white lining between the two colours was in line with the door handles. Can't say if these are correct or not, but I can't imagine they could be wrong or they wouldn't line up with the power cars

 

[sprinterguy]

Debranded LNER HST just been through Leeds on its way to Ely I think. Didn’t see the numbers but a sad sight to see it going.

Set EC54 with power cars 43208 and 43311. Joins set EC55 and power cars 43315/367 at Ely.

 

[BRX]

They look good. It's a great gesture by LNER to celebrate 41 years of HST operation on the East Coast. It's just a shame that the grey band looks a little shallow - the door handles appear to have been put in the lower blue of the bodyside but on the original blue/grey livery the door handles were within the bottom of the grey band.

https://mark-beal-tmd.smugmug.com/RetrospectiveRail/Retrospective-Class-47/i-zgDMcmN/A

Bottom of grey band looks higher up in this photo.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/71592768@N08/49080611403

 

[Bringback309s]

I would say it is too high up, but HST coaches did have a narrower grey band. The bottom seeming to be exactly at handle height

 

[AlistairCowell]

I did noticed that as well. Other than that they did a great job repainting the HST set in original 'InterCity 125' for the farewell tour.

Just saw the end of the video above and the passing of the HST is very fast (the speed of the HST was a new thing back then).
I have to say that the new trains such as the Adelantes, Voyagers, Pendolinos and AT-300s are no match to the HSTs.

 

[ST156]

So to summarise the HST Withdrawals so far:

43274 & 43302 have been transferred to EMR. Not sure which set transferred with these?
43208, 43311, 43315 & 43367, EC55 & EC54 are being stored at Ely.

The rest currently remain with LNER?

 

[hexagon789]

Just saw the end of the video above and the passing of the HST is very fast (the speed of the HST was a new thing back then).

The video is sped-up though

Hence InterCity 1250, if it did those sorts of speeds it definitely would beat anything else!

 

[43096]

So to summarise the HST Withdrawals so far:

43274 & 43302 have been transferred to EMR. Not sure which set transferred with these?
43208, 43311, 43315 & 43367, EC55 & EC54 are being stored at Ely.

The rest currently remain with LNER?

None have yet been transferred to EMR and so far 43075 is the only vehicle taken off lease from LNER.

After moves today, there are the following not on LNER property:
Ely: 43208/296/309/311/315/367 of which 43296/309 are for EMR and are EMR branded with sets EC54, EC55 and part of EC60.
Gascoigne Wood: 43251/274/295/302/305/310 with sets EC52, EC62, EC63.
Tyne Yard: 43061/075 + NL65, and (some of?) set EC64

43300 is at Neville Hill with collision damage and 43313 is at Bounds Green also damaged.

 

[LNER 43367]

Does anyone know what type of seats set EC59 has as that will be my last IC125 set I travel on

 

[Failed Unit]

I think they are all standard mallard left in service. I haven’t seen the Ex EMT set (not the hired one) for a while.

 

[43096]

I think they are all standard mallard left in service. I haven’t seen the Ex EMT set (not the hired one) for a while.

The two sets that have original IC70 seats - EC64 and NL65 - are stood down at Tyne Yard awaiting their fate. All other LNER HSTs (EC51-63) have the Mallard interior.

 

[jaketaylor]

Sorry if this has already been asked before, but what’s the reason 43075+061 are at Tyne Yard? I thought they would of been stood down at Neville Hill.
Thanks in advance for any answers

 

[DanNCL]

Sorry if this has already been asked before, but what’s the reason 43075+061 are at Tyne Yard? I thought they would of been stood down at Neville Hill.
Thanks in advance for any answers

They're off lease and that's where their owner has decided to store them. They were expected to be heading for scrap but there's been no news on that one for a while now.

 

[ainsworth74]

I thought they would of been stood down at Neville Hill.

Neville Hill is at capacity so if you don't have a good reason to store something there you do not store it there because that's space which is desperately needed. Meanwhile Tyne Yard has plenty of room...

 

[43096]

They're off lease and that's where their owner has decided to store them. They were expected to be heading for scrap but there's been no news on that one for a while now.

Only 43075 is off lease as yet.

 

[tobytronic]

Gascoigne Wood this afternoon. Looks like 2x sets still there. Passing Hambleton 10 mins earlier saw the back of what looked a dark blue barrier vehicle as last in consist disappearing south towards Doncaster - seen from car whilst driving.

 

[deltic08]

The last HST from Harrogate to KX and then storage at Ely ran tonight at 17;05, or should have been. ECS from Neville Hill, it arrived nearly 20 mins late because a Leeds-Knaresborough stopper it was following was 25 late. Many passengers joined together with loads of enthusiasts. I haven't seen that many photographing an HST ever let alone at Harrogate.
The train was turned round in rapid time with doors closed and locked waiting for a 'green' from platform 1 but it stubbornly stayed red and the returning Knaresborough-Leeds was given the road from platform 3 before it had even entered the station. This would make the London about 35 late into Leeds.
An appalling piece of regulating by the Harrogate signalman. It only takes three and a half minutes to the next block signal non-stop before the stopper can follow. That would have delayed the already late stopper only 50 seconds more if the London had been allowed to go when it was ready to.
I don't know what path it would get south of Leeds and then Doncaster to make up time. Probably stuck behind a Leeds-Doncaster stopper making it even more late.
Is there any hope for railways in this country if they are run this haphazard way?

 

[route101]

I took the 1400 from Edinburgh to Newcastle yesterday , was anybody else on it ?

 

[ST156]

Does anyone know which power cars and set are currently on their way to Gascoigne Sidings?

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K05859/2019-12-16/detailed

 

[Ianno87]

The train was turned round in rapid time with doors closed and locked waiting for a 'green' from platform 1 but it stubbornly stayed red and the returning Knaresborough-Leeds was given the road from platform 3 before it had even entered the station. This would make the London about 35 late into Leeds.
An appalling piece of regulating by the Harrogate signalman.

Perhaps, from experience, the signaller simply wasn't expecting such an impressively rapid turnround on the HST? Or would risk PPM-failing the Northern when the HST would have failed PPM regardless.

 

[Neptune]

I think a service to KGX would be a far higher PPM risk as it could affect other services en route.

 

[Railperf]

None have yet been transferred to EMR and so far 43075 is the only vehicle taken off lease from LNER.

After moves today, there are the following not on LNER property:
Ely: 43208/296/309/311/315/367 of which 43296/309 are for EMR and are EMR branded with sets EC54, EC55 and part of EC60.
Gascoigne Wood: 43251/274/295/302/305/310 with sets EC52, EC62, EC63.
Tyne Yard: 43061/075 + NL65, and (some of?) set EC64

43300 is at Neville Hill with collision damage and 43313 is at Bounds Green also damaged.

There were some ex-LNER red EMT branded power cars at Craigentinny on Saturday afternoon. Didn't catch any numbers. Also looked like four Mk3's - i am assuming vehicles removed from the EMR sets to bring them down to 8 trailers?

 

[Dave91131]

There were some ex-LNER red EMT branded power cars at Craigentinny on Saturday afternoon. Didn't catch any numbers. Also looked like four Mk3's - i am assuming vehicles removed from the EMR sets to bring them down to 8 trailers?

According to my notes 3 sets (EC56, EC60 and EC64) have all had 2 vehicles removed and I believe all of these 6 vehicles are presently at Craigentinny.

I believe the vehicles in question are 42241 & 42244 from EC56 (the set for the farewell trips) and 42125 & 42205 from EC64 (stored at Tyne Yard).

I don't know the identities of the 2 vehicles from EC60 (stored at Ely), however I think 1 of them is a first class carriage based on a photo I ahve seen elsewhere.

Hope this helps.