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Class 397 TPE "Nova 2" Diagrams

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Looking for a ride from Preston to (somewhere north of that) and back on Monday 23rd - anyone know if any are likely to be out and if so what the diagrams might be? Thanks.
 
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Didn't realise the cabs differed between TOCs. Imagined they'd be standard to that type of train. How extensive is the TOC branding? Is it just a few stickers, or does the whole cab go a different colour?
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Normally the original driver and second man seating upholstery will match the rest of the train. Otherwise I’d have thought you’d have difficulty telling any 350 batch from another, or even from a 450...
 
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Just travelled from Bolton on a late runner to Picc (don't judge me!)
...litter everywhere...bins far to small
No signs indicating power points between seats (even Northern have managed that!) ..same as on 185's
First Class not labelled as such on windows or seats
One coach stifiling hot
Wi-Fi not working
Quite sad really as the interior itself has a nice ambience
 
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CHESHIRECAT said:
Just travelled from Bolton on a late runner to Picc (don't judge me!)
...litter everywhere...bins far to small
No signs indicating power points between seats (even Northern have managed that!) ..same as on 185's
First Class not labelled as such on windows or seats
One coach stifiling hot
Wi-Fi not working
Quite sad really as the interior itself has a nice ambience
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Isn't Bolton a set down stop on the way towards MAN? Unless I'm wrong, how did you buy a ticket for that journey?
 
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Isn't Bolton a set down stop on the way towards MAN? Unless I'm wrong, how did you buy a ticket for that journey?
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Just jumped on! Like I said....don't judge me! Was attempting humour ! I had ticket for relevant portion of the journey !
Point of my post was to give an objective observation on said train !
Previous Northern canx as well !
Gonna be difficult stopping people getting on...Train arrives..open doors..stating Bolton and Manchester on side and Manchester on front....
 
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Wi-Fi not working
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I think that's all TPE trains, first it takes ages to even sign in, then once you have it doesn't really work. You can use data between main towns and cities but between Lockerbie and Carstairs you are left without internet.
 
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I think that's all TPE trains, first it takes ages to even sign in, then once you have it doesn't really work. You can use data between main towns and cities but between Lockerbie and Carstairs you are left without internet.
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Hi..wasn't even a Wi-Fi network!!
 
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Hi..wasn't even a Wi-Fi network!!
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That's odd, maybe it hasn't been fitted on the 397s, or maybe the connection keeps ending, like on the 390s who are also under First...
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Just jumped on! Like I said....don't judge me! Was attempting humour ! I had ticket for relevant portion of the journey !
Point of my post was to give an objective observation on said train !
Previous Northern canx as well !
Gonna be difficult stopping people getting on...Train arrives..open doors..stating Bolton and Manchester on side and Manchester on front....
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That's always my argument, you've got a ticket for a journey, you are boarding a train between those two stations. It's designed to reduce boarding but I'm sure its fine.
How fast does it go between Bolton and Manchester? I would presume it gets stuck behind stoppers more often than not.
 
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That's odd, maybe it hasn't been fitted on the 397s, or maybe the connection keeps ending, like on the 390s who are also under First...

That's always my argument, you've got a ticket for a journey, you are boarding a train between those two stations. It's designed to reduce boarding but I'm sure its fine.
How fast does it go between Bolton and Manchester? I would presume it gets stuck behind stoppers more often than not.
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Was a cracking run actually ! About 15 mins to Ox road where it terminated 45 mins late
 
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Are any likely to be out tomorrow (Monday 23rd)?

Edit for others: went for 0904 off Preston which was canned so I *think* only the other set is out.
 
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Heading out tomorrow from Oxenholme. Does anyone know if any 397s will be out and about? Thanks
 
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Dreadful service today.

1S38 cancelled
1M83 cancelled
1S40 350
1S46 350 LNW livery
1M94 cancelled

could do better!!
 
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9 cancellations today so far.
1M87 185
1M97 350 LNWR livery-same unit as 1S46 earlier which only ran to Carlisle.
1S61 350
1M98 350
1S66 185
 
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Remember that because Haymarket junction is closed, the only way an Edinburgh service could be provided would be using a 185, and the Sub to access Waverley from the east.
 
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No sign of Novas today. There have been 8 diagrams-185-4, 350-3, plus one more later.
This is 19:07 1S85 MA-GC. Cannot see where it comes from.

There is the possibility of a Nova on a 2-day diagram for tomorrow and Sunday:
04:34 5S30 Longsight-MP
05:00 1S30 MP-GC
09:07 1M94 GC-MA
13:07 1S61 MA-GC
17:08 1M92 GC-MA
21:04 5C92 MA-Preston CS

08:19 5S46 Preston CS-MA
10:10 1S46 MA-Lockerbie
13:11 1M97 Lockerbie-MA
16:10 1S75 MA-Lockerbie
19:13 1M93 Lockerbie-MA
21:48 5H93 MA-Longsight
 
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1S30 and 1M94 cancelled "LATE ARRIVAL OF STOCK"

If this is the new TPE, it doesn't bode well.


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No sign of Novas today. There have been 8 diagrams-185-4, 350-3, plus one more later.
This is 19:07 1S85 MA-GC. Cannot see where it comes from.

There is the possibility of a Nova on a 2-day diagram for tomorrow and Sunday:
04:34 5S30 Longsight-MP
05:00 1S30 MP-GC
09:07 1M94 GC-MA
13:07 1S61 MA-GC
17:08 1M92 GC-MA
21:04 5C92 MA-Preston CS

08:19 5S46 Preston CS-MA
10:10 1S46 MA-Lockerbie
13:11 1M97 Lockerbie-MA
16:10 1S75 MA-Lockerbie
19:13 1M93 Lockerbie-MA
21:48 5H93 MA-Longsight
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A Nova has been out today on MA-Lockerbie diagrams:

06:28 1M99 Lancaster-MA
08:07 1S38 MA-Lockerbie
11:11 1M95 Lockerbie-MA
14:07 1S66 MA-Lockerbie (Terminated Carlisle)

17:30 1M91 Carlisle-MA
20:17 5W91 MA-Ardwick TMD

For Railcam users-18:22 BLS
18:40 Preston
18:50 Farrington
18:52 Leyland
 
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Update for today
1010 MA to Lockerbie Terminated at Carlisle
1307 Lockerbie to MA Cancelled
1610 MA to Lockerbie Cancelled
1913 Lockerbie to MA Cancelled
Cancelled due to a fault on the train
 
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