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WesternLancer

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If these are on the move to EMR now, what trains are Hull Trains using to deliver their daily service? (In asking this I'm assuming their new Paragon Class 802 is not in full service yet to run all of their trains yet - or am I wrong?).
 

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2 of their 5 802s are now in service, and they still have 2 of their 180s, so they are in the same position in terms of number of units as they've been for a long time. I don't think their 3rd 802 is far off coming into service either
 

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2 of their 5 802s are now in service, and they still have 2 of their 180s, so they are in the same position in terms of number of units as they've been for a long time. I don't think their 3rd 802 is far off coming into service either
Thanks. So they are not needing to use the HST set any more then I guess
 

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Thanks. So they are not needing to use the HST set any more then I guess

Whether they need to or not, they can't run it anymore as they don't have a PRM-TSI derogation for it! Getting rid of 2x 180s and the HST effectively all at once, whilst only gaining 2 802s is possibly a bit risky, but the 802s should be much more reliable than the 180s!
 

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Whether they need to or not, they can't run it anymore as they don't have a PRM-TSI derogation for it! Getting rid of 2x 180s and the HST effectively all at once, whilst only gaining 2 802s is possibly a bit risky, but the 802s should be much more reliable than the 180s!
Good point re PRM-TSI!
 

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Whether they need to or not, they can't run it anymore as they don't have a PRM-TSI derogation for it! Getting rid of 2x 180s and the HST effectively all at once, whilst only gaining 2 802s is possibly a bit risky, but the 802s should be much more reliable than the 180s!
Given they’re effectively the same as the GWR and TPE units I’m not surprised - probably ironed out the teething issues on the HT units considering they’re all FirstGroup companies with similar design specs
 

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I saw 4 x 153/156 EMR carriages at arriva traincare today. Too dark to see details. Anyone know why they're there?
 

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I saw 4 x 153/156 EMR carriages at arriva traincare today. Too dark to see details. Anyone know why they're there?

4 x 153 units have transferred to TfW, 153310/326 after a short stint with West Midlands and 153313/321 which moved earlier in the week.
 

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Thanks for that. Looks like I'll be getting single carriages more on EMR Crewe route instead of 2 or 3.
156s from Greater Anglia are being drafted in to replace the 153s over the next few months, which will ultimately be replaced (along with the 158s) by Turbostars.
 

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Apologies if this has been discussed already;

Is there a particular reason why EMR are looking at total replacement of their Class 158 fleet?
 

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They’re allowed to do it on Derby - Crewe, Newark - Grimsby, and Doncaster to Peterborough. A single ran on a Crewe diagram yesterday.

OK, they are working TOWARDS no more single carriages but are dependent on receiving more stock from other TOCS
 

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And is my understanding correct that when all trains have been delivered or transferred, there will only be 170s, 360s and 804s in the fleet?

That is the intention. To have only one type of stock for different routes and uses.

EMR Intercity - 804
EMR Electrics - 360
EMR Regional - 170
 

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Apologies if this has been discussed already;

Is there a particular reason why EMR are looking at total replacement of their Class 158 fleet?
a lot of them going to northern i believe(which is a shame, EMR 158's are in good nick)
 
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