No, you cannot buy an upgrade to first class Priv. You can excess to the appropriate non-priv first class fare, in the same way a non-priv standard class ticket holder canAnyone know if you can upgrade from Standard to First Class? (Paying a fee obviously).
In terms of what, on the day or upgrade your entire privilege pass?Anyone know if you can upgrade from Standard to First Class? (Paying a fee obviously).
Depends on TOC but mainly management grades and directors, also for any other staff that have length of service or BR protected right staff as well as retired staff again either through there retirement job title or length of service, I’m sure there are others
Thanks for the reply. Very interesting.If you travel at the weekend you can pay the difference. (For weekend upgrades)
Done on board the train.
So that would be: Free box journey then you’ll pay the weekend upgrade tariff for that operator and journey.
On a weekday you can pay the difference, but it isn’t cheap or worth it.
You can be looking at £100-£250 in cases. (Cheaper to book in advance and pay the full rate)
Most guards will let you in first class anyway if you've got a priv. I go up to Manchester on Virgin a lot and usually have a word with the guard. Nobody has ever asked me to pay an upgrade for it.
I wonder what is classed as Grade 3 now .... particularly for GWRIn BR days it was Management Grade 3 and above.
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Yes I think somebody posted on here about it. My view is if I've squared it with the guard then wheres the issue? I'll move if some revenue officer wants to create. As far as I'm concerned the guard is in charge of the train and if someone has their permission to be in first class then thats the end of it. I would never go in first class without asking the guard first.Didn't someone recently get caught out by Revenue Protection whilst doing this?
Some Avanti Guards are downright nasty and obnoxious individuals. Virgin before them, and now Avanti, are unable and/or unwilling to do anything about these dubious individuals who act in a manner that is the opposite of how the job description and person spec is worded by the company....A particularly aggressive guard was berating me....
Had a very unpleasant experience in first on Avanti yesterday - note I have first class PRIV and have never had a problem in my many years of using it. A particularly aggressive guard was berating me for not paying a supplementary fee for food. I had never even heard of this until that moment. So I offered to pay and he said I had to go to the shop to buy a voucher. Off to the shop I trundle and the staff member there had never even heard of it and couldn’t sell it to me.
After doing some research I found a very obscure policy buried on the RDG website. Is this is to be a thing it needs to be enforced consistently or not at all.
The policy has always been the same on West Coast (except that you can now pay for the voucher which didn't used to be possible). When you receive your staff travel card, there is a reminder to check the restrictions that are in place, that is your responsibility.
We had something similar on VTWC a few years ago. Sat down quietly in quite busy first class with properly dated [1st class] boxes, declined offers of food, then "guard" or TM of some sort came through checking tickets and we showed ours. Cue loud public interrogation on whether we had announced ourselves to on-board staff, and if not, why not. Public humiliation and made to feel like thieving parasites.Had a very unpleasant experience in first on Avanti yesterday - note I have first class PRIV and have never had a problem in my many years of using it. A particularly aggressive guard was berating me for not paying a supplementary fee for food. I had never even heard of this until that moment. So I offered to pay and he said I had to go to the shop to buy a voucher. Off to the shop I trundle and the staff member there had never even heard of it and couldn’t sell it to me.
After doing some research I found a very obscure policy buried on the RDG website. Is this is to be a thing it needs to be enforced consistently or not at all.
Had a very unpleasant experience in first on Avanti yesterday - note I have first class PRIV and have never had a problem in my many years of using it. A particularly aggressive guard was berating me for not paying a supplementary fee for food. I had never even heard of this until that moment. So I offered to pay and he said I had to go to the shop to buy a voucher. Off to the shop I trundle and the staff member there had never even heard of it and couldn’t sell it to me.
After doing some research I found a very obscure policy buried on the RDG website. Is this is to be a thing it needs to be enforced consistently or not at all.
The policy has always been the same on West Coast (except that you can now pay for the voucher which didn't used to be possible). When you receive your staff travel card, there is a reminder to check the restrictions that are in place, that is your responsibility.
I wonder what is classed as Grade 3 now .... particularly for GWR
Yeah, fair enough. But there is absolutely zero need for his behaviour - like I said I even offered to pay and the member of shop staff couldn’t sell me a voucher anyway. I have travelled quite literally hundreds of times in first over the years and never before has been mentioned to me and I’ve not heard of it until yesterday.
I could understand it if the train was full of full-fare paying passengers but there was a handful onboard.
On a separate note, why are you meant to pay a supplementary fee to eat onboard when you are able to avail yourself of unlimited refreshments and snacks in the first class lounges?
Anyone know if you can upgrade from Standard to First Class? (Paying a fee obviously).
If you hold a STD class TOC Priv card, then you may only buy Standard Class Priv rate tickets.
Where a TOC offers Weekend First upgrades, TOC Priv card holders with Standard Class Priv rate tickets, may purchase the Weekend First upgrade at the public rate and travel in First Class accommodation.
With the exception of the Weekend First upgrade, there is no mechanism for you to pay the difference between Standard Class and First Class fares to travel in First Class accommodation.
If you hold a 1ST class TOC Priv card, then you may buy either Standard or First Class Priv rate tickets. If you buy Standard Class Priv rate tickets, then you may only travel in Standard Class accommodation.
On a separate note, why are you meant to pay a supplementary fee to eat onboard when you are able to avail yourself of unlimited refreshments and snacks in the first class lounges?
As has been alluded to there was a quite recent incident which, I was told, had a similar outcome.
Pretty much every 1st class lounge I've ever used has offered food, even if there's only a limited amount. Avanti (and Virgin before them) tend to have a large selection of biscuits, crisps and other snacks in their lounges.But you aren't. Only (non-alcoholic) drinks in first class lounges, not food.
Band 3 and above at NR, so nowhere near "head of" on our side.Nowadays, it's usually "Head of ..." and higher.
Yes but if you’re travelling on a 1st class Priv/box/silver ir gold pass you’re not allowed to take it. Worth losing your travel or even job over a 99p bag of cookies?Pretty much every 1st class lounge I've ever used has offered food, even if there's only a limited amount. Avanti (and Virgin before them) tend to have a large selection of biscuits, crisps and other snacks in their lounges.