It'll be fine, bit of filler and pinch a window from 2405.
Glad the Driver is ok. Let’s hope the Guard is not a jinx!
Kick out the screen and give the driver some goggles! It were fine when my pa were driving t’ steam trains with his head out the window etc etc
Glad the driver is ok
If a 442 is delayed by 11 minute, as the 7:54 from Guildford was today, how soon will someone know what the problem is?
Will it be after the journey when the driver and guard fill out anything they need to fill out on delays or will they be aware whilst the train is travelling?
If a train is this delayed, do Control try and contact the guard to find out why?
Most delays to 442s don't have a reason assigned to them it seems. Not even a currently investigating this delay as a reason. Perhaps that is because they aren't investigating at that time. Perhaps it's such a common occurrence they don't feel the need to do so.
That is fair enough but when someone asked via Twitter they said they hadn't been given a reason for its delay.Delayed today picking up passengers from the cancelled 0640 Havant (not 442). No need for control to ask the Guard. How it is explained to passengers is a separate matter but the delay was, as far as I can see, nothing to do with it being a 442. Happy to be corrected of course.
I was onboard this morning and the train was not significantly busier than normal by Haslemere. I can’t see how loading can delay the train by 11 mins between Petersfield and Guildford. At Haslemere the dwell was short and many more than usual boardedDelayed today picking up passengers from the cancelled 0640 Havant (not 442). No need for control to ask the Guard. How it is explained to passengers is a separate matter but the delay was, as far as I can see, nothing to do with it being a 442. Happy to be corrected of course.
Control do sometimes contact guards to enquire about unexplained delays. If they don't, the crew are still required to do a report, but it probably won't be done until later in the day.If a train is this delayed, do Control try and contact the guard to find out why?
I see the 7:54 is also 11 minutes late today but given the 7:4ť departed on time, it can't be due to passengers boarding it, unless there was some unexpected hold up relating to a few passengers.
Rather interestingly it was delayed by the same amount of time as yesterday but yesterday the 7:45 was cancelled.
I see the 7:54 is also 11 minutes late today but given the 7:4ť departed on time, it can't be due to passengers boarding it, unless there was some unexpected hold up relating to a few passengers.
Rather interestingly it was delayed by the same amount of time as yesterday but yesterday the 7:45 was cancelled.
Perhaps it should be named The Reggie Perrin Express. “11 minutes late, staff difficulties at ....”.
I wonder whether staff familiarity is playing a part. Is this crew newly trained on 442s perhaps. Performance is very similar to the early introduction. Other 442 services seem to do a lot better although in any case of only being able to join the front 5 there is a risk of delay, especially in bad weather. Ok on the down evening peak as a rule as this is mainly egress.
there’s only a limited pool of crew trained on 442s, so the ones that do work them should be getting up to speed. Even the risks of SDO are a bit of a red herring. I genuinely think it’s because of passenger flow joining at short platforms. I wonder if investment in additional shelters and seating around where coaches 4 and 5 are would be beneficial and justified?
there’s only a limited pool of crew trained on 442s, so the ones that do work them should be getting up to speed. Even the risks of SDO are a bit of a red herring. I genuinely think it’s because of passenger flow joining at short platforms. I wonder if investment in additional shelters and seating around where coaches 4 and 5 are would be beneficial and justified?
There are also some stations where there is a lack of destination dot matrix displays, so even if there is a scrolling message saying use front 5 cars, its often is not visible from parts of the platform, or from some seats or shelters. I am guessing these live departure in X minutes signs encourage people to stand where they can see the display (even if located in part of platform not being served) so they know when train is arriving
Since the desiros have had ASDO passengers have been used to all doors accommodated on the platform opening, its not been an issue needing consideration previously when boarding at least, so it’s unlikely to cross the minds of those waiting. I have heard new announcements at stations regarding the front door of the first carriage not opening but I’m unaware of how they warn passengers boarding at SDO stations about front 5 only.
On the 442’s usual fast stopping patterns only Fratton on the up has the issue that coaches in the busiest part of the platform by the entrance and footbridge don’t open forcing people to move forward. But as soon as they start adding stops at stations like Liphook, Bedhampton, Hilsea (down) and Liss, Witley and Milford (up) this issue becomes a major headache with a large numbers of passengers waiting on parts of the platform where doors won’t open. Of course one solution would be 442 only stop car marks at stations with short platforms, so the train doesn’t have to stop at the very end of the platform. This would be an unlikely scenario though as it would add operational risks.