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East Midlands Railway livery and station branding

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SteveyBee131

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156909 left Derby on a Matlock at lunchtime today. Note all of the GA white hasn't been covered by aubergine on the ends, thus leaving a white border between it and the yellow end; is this a deliberate design detail, or has it just happened?

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I imagine it's just because it's a temporary fix. Things like beading strips, inspection covers, filler cap recesses, etc are often painted a colour as close as possible to the vinyl colour on a modern relivery. However, if it's only planned to be a short term livery, it isn't always practical to pay the same attention to detail, and so they get left, sticking out like a sore thumb!

(Before it opens a can of worms for a different thread, I know, some of the long-lived reliveries out there didn't either! o_O:rolleyes::lol:)
 
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156909 left Derby on a Matlock at lunchtime today. Note all of the GA white hasn't been covered by aubergine on the ends, thus leaving a white border between it and the yellow end; is this a deliberate design detail, or has it just happened?

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Most likely because the EMT 156's have that part painted yellow and they got the vinyls made the same.
 

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Found this on twitter

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At first glance I thought that was an EMT 153 + XC 22x hybrid

Still, looks better than the 222 in EMR livery at least.
 

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That's the base blue Hull Trains livery; the 1st Class section appears to be in the end coach (as evidenced by the gold parts around the windows).
Only if EMR intend to relocate first class! As the first class vehicle on a 180 is an intermediate car next to one of the driving vehicles.
 

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Ugly. Why not bin the blue and have the whole train white with purple cab ends like the 156?

Just looks like a mis-matched mess.
Cost. Painting the whole train white would be considerably more than just the two end units.
 

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But the illustration shows one driving coach and one intermediate coach. It does look a mishmash though.
 

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Found this on twitter

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I've attached a tweet from an official EMR account as a reply to that original tweet. It suggests there won't be blue. I think we'll just have to wait and see what the final livery will be!
 

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I've attached a tweet from an official EMR account as a reply to that original tweet. It suggests there won't be blue. I think we'll just have to wait and see what the final livery will be!

My reading of that tweet is that it's a bit of a tongue in cheek response to someone saying that the blue needed to go so they just cropped that carriage out! They wouldn't have included the other vehicle, which isn't 'as-is' from Hull Trains, otherwise...
 

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I've attached a tweet from an official EMR account as a reply to that original tweet. It suggests there won't be blue. I think we'll just have to wait and see what the final livery will be!
Interesting though, as i think the simple and most cost effective solution forEMR is just to have the temporary livery as it doesn’t require anything too expensive compared to the final livery
 

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Some more 156's have now been rebranded into the outgoing livery which looks set to be branded onto other fleets such as the 180's (see above) also the other two 180's are now look to be awaiting transfer to EMR at Crofton depot from Hull Trains.

Class 43 HST power cars (43/0 will be replaced by LNER power cars very soon..):
43043 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43044 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43045 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43046 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43047 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43048 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43049 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43050 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43052 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43054 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43055 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43058 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43059 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43060 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43064 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43066 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43073 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43076 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43081 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43082 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43083 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43089 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded

43423 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43465 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43467 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43468 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43480 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43484 - Plain blue, EMR branded

Class 153:
153302 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153311 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153318 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153319 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153355 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153357 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153368 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153372 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153374 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153376 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153379 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153381 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153382 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153383 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153384 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153385 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo

Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - White with purple doors, no branding
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156902 - White with Red doors (ex 156402)
156907 - White with Red doors (ex 156409)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409)
156912 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156412)

156916 - White with Red doors (ex 156416)
156917 - White with Red doors (ex 156417)
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418)
156919 - White with Red doors (ex 156419)
156922 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156422)

Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - White base with Orange doors, EMR Regional logo
158774 - White base with Orange doors, no branding
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - White base with Orange doors, EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo

Class 180:
180109 - Hull Trains blue - Awaiting Transfer
180110 - Hull Trains blue, no branding
180111 - Hull Trains blue, no branding
180113 - Hull Trains blue - Awaiting Transfer

Class 222:
222001 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222002 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222004 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222005 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222006 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo

222007 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222008 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222009 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222010 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222011 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222012 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222013 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222014 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222015 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222018 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222019 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222023 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo

222101 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222102 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222103 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222104 - Full EMR intercity purple
 
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Are the window bands on the 222s not being changed to black then?

Have to say the HST in interim livery looks a lot better than what it would have done in full livery
 

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So it seems just one of the exLNER HSTs is to receive the EMR interim livery. Hope it can handle the celebrity status!
 

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Understood it was going to be one of the last ex LNER HSTs going in service to be in the interim colours
 

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Honestly, the EMR interim/outgoing livery looks a lot better than the full one, still silently hoping they ditch the full livery in favour of the outgoing one, I'm skeptical though.
 
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