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Bletchleyite

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I know that the plural of anecdote isn't data, but over the New Year holiday I was ill with the full house of coronavirus symptoms - fever, myalgia, uncontrollable coughing and breathing difficulties. When the coughing fits came I couldn't breath in, had a "stridor" (a noise like a wheeze but on trying to inhale, caused by the airways closing up), turned blue in the face and nearly passed out a couple of times. The dry cough persisted for weeks and I'm only just over it. I don't know what bug I had but I've never experienced anything like it. It does make you wonder if coronavirus has been in the U.K. longer than we think.

To be fair that could have been severe flu but it does sound like it. Did you have a flu jab?
 
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Here's the paper that the FT and others were reporting on about 50% of the population already having had it. The 50% figure is a best case scenario based on the conversations on twitter about it, but if anybody wants to have a read and try to understand it themselves, knock yourselves out!
 

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To be fair that could have been severe flu but it does sound like it. Did you have a flu jab?

You are right, flu and coronavirus symptoms are similar, so unless I get antibody tested we'll never know. If it was a case of the flu, it was a very bad one.
 

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I don't know what bug I had but I've never experienced anything like it. It does make you wonder if coronavirus has been in the U.K. longer than we think.
The key difference between covid-19 and flu is that the one is so much more transmissible than the other (and because it's new to humans, there's no pre-existing immunity anywhere). If you'd had covid-19 back then, odds are you'd have passed it one to a handful of people, and then they'd have spread it throughout the UK back in January, rather than now.

I reckon you had something different.
 

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Prince Charles has tested positive for Coronavirus.

https://www.rt.com/uk/484042-prince-charges-has-coronavirus/

Not that I've got anything against the man personally and I hope he gets well soon, but for the next few weeks we'll be having hourly news updates on how the royal cough is progressing. He'll no doubt be admitted to a plush private hospital "as a precaution", whereas the rest of us are told to go home, take some paracetamol and take to bed.
 

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Not that I've got anything against the man personally and I hope he gets well soon, but for the next few weeks we'll be having hourly news updates on how the royal cough is progressing. He'll no doubt be admitted to a plush private hospital "as a precaution", whereas the rest of us are told to go home, take some paracetamol and take to bed.

Seeing as most private hospitals have been turned over to NHS use i doubt that. We also need to consider continuity of government. We need a monarch to operate out Constituation. He is of an age where this could be a dangerous infection and the Queen more so.

personally i would be more worried about how many people he might have infected and how they will be cared for
 

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Seeing as most private hospitals have been turned over to NHS use i doubt that. We also need to consider continuity of government. We need a monarch to operate out Constituation. He is of an age where this could be a dangerous infection and the Queen more so.

personally i would be more worried about how many people he might have infected and how they will be cared for

Considering his job essentially consists of shaking hands with people he may well turn out to be the biggest superspreader of all.
 

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Seeing as most private hospitals have been turned over to NHS use i doubt that. We also need to consider continuity of government. We need a monarch to operate out Constituation. He is of an age where this could be a dangerous infection and the Queen more so.

personally i would be more worried about how many people he might have infected and how they will be cared for

Looks like he's gone to his holiday home in Scotland to self isolate. Not sure how symptom-free Camilla managed to blag herself a test. There is a long line of succession to the throne, so if we do loose a few royals there is a queue of people ready to step up to the job.

You might be given that advice you quote in your own particular area, but I can assure you that is most certainly not the advice given in our local area.

What advice do they give in your local area to people with mild coronavirus symptoms?
 

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What advice do they give in your local area to people with mild coronavirus symptoms?

Advice given for the over-70s (our age group at home) is somewhat different in our local area to that given to those much younger. It is something that cannot be generalised. Not all people just have the symptoms on the mild version that you specifically mention.
 
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Looks like he's gone to his holiday home in Scotland to self isolate. Not sure how symptom-free Camilla managed to blag herself a test. There is a long line of succession to the throne, so if we do loose a few royals there is a queue of people ready to step up to the job.

It is continuity of Government. Look at the PHYTON plan for the cold war as an example. It is exactly the same reason why several government ministers have been "missing" recently. Also one of the RFA ships (Argus) put to sea very recently.

This is what happens at times of civil emergency.
 
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It reminds me of these:

(picture shows 1st World War hospital train being loaded in France)
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Out of interest, would anyone know which Chalons is implied? There are multiple.

Probably Châlons sur Marne (now called Châlons en Champagne) which is the junction on the main line from Paris Est with the line for Verdun. Verdun was the location of the longest WW1 battle involving the French.
 

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It is continuity of Government. Look at the PHYTON plan for the cold war as an example. It is exactly the same reason why several government ministers have been "missing" recently. Also one of the RFA ships (Argus) put to sea very recently.

This is what happens at times of civil emergency.
Exactly, anyone seen the home or transport secretaries lately?
 

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Here's the paper that the FT and others were reporting on about 50% of the population already having had it. The 50% figure is a best case scenario based on the conversations on twitter about it, but if anybody wants to have a read and try to understand it themselves, knock yourselves out!
Prof Ferguson shredded that paper in at the Health Select Committee hearing this morning. Having said that there needs to be a lot of testing to establish the number who have had to feed into the modelling as it has huge impact overall (a big weakness of the current IC work). The Oxford work was based on data up to last Thursday morning so some underlying assumptions are different now.

Other Prof F. snippets:
R0 looks like it is nearer 3 than 2.5 based on latest work. Distancing therefore has much bigger impact.
R0 only expected to drop by 10-15% in warmer dry weather based on previous Corona Virus experience e.g. to 2.55 - 2.7 if R0 is 3.0.
 
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Both have been at least active. Priti Patel was seen answering questions in the HoC just a couple of days ago.
Active but mostly isolated (especially from the rest of the cabinet)
 

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I saw something that suggested Raab was the "designated survivor"! I hope that was tittle tattle. A potato or even Boris Johnson would be better!
 

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Some interesting posts on here regarding symptoms earlier in the year.

I know people anecdotally who've also had Coronavirus type symptoms much earlier in the year.

Roll on the antibody test so the we can know one way or another.
 

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Some interesting posts on here regarding symptoms earlier in the year.

I know people anecdotally who've also had Coronavirus type symptoms much earlier in the year.

Roll on the antibody test so the we can know one way or another.

Exactly, but large scale antibody testing too early isn't that useful at the moment. Start with healthcare and police etc. then roll out.

A 7- 10 days post lock down is good point to start testing in the general population.
 

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Exactly, but large scale antibody testing too early isn't that useful at the moment. Start with healthcare and police etc. then roll out.

A 7- 10 days post lock down is good point to start testing in the general population.

Indeed, all in good time.
 
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