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Northern Unit Refurbishments

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trainmananthon said:
Fitters are working hard to rectify the issue tonight.

185 units are supposed to be required for the current timetable.
Today we had 118 ready for service at the start of the day.
110 failed with TrainFX issues. A few others failed with other issues too.
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Is that 185 as in the amount of units required? If so I would have thought it would have ben more to run an average timetable
 
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As it was a brief was sent out this morning, and units went into service with no working TrainFX system, so no PA or cab to cab function.
I did however end up working the 319 that refuses to update to anything from the original set of codes given to it in early 2015, so I had a working PA system.....
 
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Just a gentle reminder that this thread is to discuss Northern Unit Refurbishments

We absolutely do welcome people discussing other topics on the forum, but we do ask that separate threads are created to discuss these :)
 
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With the Corona19 are the various works still doing the interior refreshes or have they stepped down to just routine maintenance?
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There is a 156 at Eastleigh that work seems to be going on at a steady pace to transform from Scotrail to Northern.
 
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I have a feeling that could be 156485 as that was in a worse state than the other cascaded 156s
 
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It would probably envolve a complete strip out new seats and everything. Plus a missing gangway door? New toilet etc
 
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Reported on the Scotish HST introduction thread that Wabtek Kilmarnock is rumoured to be under threat. With PRM work drawing to a close and new trains entering service perhaps more will follow.
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I have been trying to keep my own list of Northern PRM, and interior refurb progress largely from 507021s blog and info from here and elsewhere
It's got a bit behind but below is my take on the class 150 DMUs st⁸ill requiring PRM or the various levels of interior refresh. I do other classes later. Any errors or corrections needed are very welcome.

Class 150/1 s 1 to PRM 24 requiring various levels of refurb.
1. PRM. 150 111 at Doncaster
2. Prm modded awaiting the various levels of refurb
150 101, 104, 105, 106, 107, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 117, 118, 121, 128, 129, 130, 131, 134, 135, 140, 141, 148, 150 of which 105, 115, 128 are at Crewe and 134 is at Wolverton.

Class 150/2 s - 1 in works for PRM and 14 awaiting various levels refurb.
1. At Doncster for PRM and repaint 150 210
2. PRM modded awaiting refurb. 150 201, 203, 205, 206, 209, 210, 215, 218, 224, 225, 226, 275, 276, 277.
150 209 has PRM mods only but no bathroom.
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superkev said:
Class 150/2 s - 3 in works for PRM and 14 awaiting various levels refurb.
1. At Doncster for PRM and repaint 150 210, 218, 226
2. PRM modded awaiting refurb. 150 201, 203, 205, 206, 209, 210, 215, 218, 224, 225, 226, 275, 276, 277.
150 209 has PRM mods only but no bathroom.
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218 and 226 are back and in traffic. 226 still in purple but PRM mods complete.
 
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jonesy3001 said:
9 down, 8 to go.
How come only the one movement today or is it to do with this coronavirus?
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I make it 10 that have gone in: 323226-230/232/234/236/238/239 with 7 having come out: 226/228/229/234/236/238/239.
 
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I've tried to do an up to date list of where the DMU refurbishments are and liveries plus any notable changes, any corrections or amendments welcome.

Key

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Unbranded First Scotrail Barbie
Unbranded London Midland livery
Unbranded FGW Blue

Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation
# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
NCM - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
FGW – First Great Western
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls

150101 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150102 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150104 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150105 - Unrefurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150106 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150107 - Unrefurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150109 - Unrefurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150110 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150111 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Doncaster)
150112 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150113 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150114 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150115 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150116 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150117 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150118 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150120 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150121 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150122 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150123 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150124 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150125 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150127 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150128 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150129 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150130 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150131 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats
150132 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150133 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150134 – Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150135 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150136 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150137 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150138 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150139 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150140 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150141 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150142 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150143 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150144 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150145 – Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150146 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150147 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150148 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150149 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150150 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

150120,123 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet

150201 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150203 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150204 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150205 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150206 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150209 - Unrefurbished, FGW moquette Ashbourne seats (no toilet)
150210 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats (in works, Doncaster)
150211 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150214 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150215 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150218 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
150222 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150223 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
150224 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150225 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
150226 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Ashbourne seats
150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

155341 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155342 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155343 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155344 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155345 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette Chapman seats
155347 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
156426 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats (in works, Wolverton)
156438 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156443 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156444 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156447 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156448 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156449 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156452 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156454 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156460 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
156461 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
156463 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156464 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
156465 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156466 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156469 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156471 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156472 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156475 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156479 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156480 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156481 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156482 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156483 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156484 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156485 - Unrefurbished, old First purple moquette Ashbourne seats
156486 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156487 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156488 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156489 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156490 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156491 - Refurbished, old purple moquette Richmond seats
156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Eastleigh)

Refurbished units with Richmond seats but no Digital Train Modifications retain floor carpet, this is replaced during Digital Train Modification

158752 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158753 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158754 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158755 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158756 - Refurbished (prototype style), dark blue moquette MTB seats
158757 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158758 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158759 - Refurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats

158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158784 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158787 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158790 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158791 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158793 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158794 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158795 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158796 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158815 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158816 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158817 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158842 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158843 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats
158844 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
# 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats, NCM complete
158850 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158851 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158853 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158855 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158859 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (in works, Bristol Barton Hill)
158861 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette MTB seats
158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158872 - Unrefurbished, old purple moquette Chapman seats

158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 has cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

170453 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170454 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170455 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170456 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170457 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170458 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170459 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170460 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170461 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170472 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170473 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170474 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170475 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170476 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170477 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats
170478 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train
 
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Here's an up to date list of where the EMU refurbishments are and liveries plus any notable changes, any corrections or amendments welcome. I've included the 319s that went off lease.

Key

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Northern livery
Old Serco-Abellio Northern purple
Old Serco-Abellio Northern red and blue
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

FCC - First Capital Connect
Units not in bold are now off lease
Units in italic are not PRM compliant but have received dispensation (except 319373)

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319362 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319363 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319364 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319365 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319371 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319373 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior
319374 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319376 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319377 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319380 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319381 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319382 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319446 – unrefurbished, FCC moquette seats and interior

769424 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, FCC moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
319446 and all Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323224 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323225 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323231 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Wolverton)
323233 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats (in works, Derby RTC for Bogic Bolster crack repairs)
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – unrefurbished, old purple moquette seats
 
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