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GA Class 90 Mark 3 Sets Withdrawal

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Northampton and Lamport Railway has taken delivery of TSOB 10412 by road.
 

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When did the 90s and Mk3s begin on the GEML? 2005?
Was a little before that. Anglia had started using 90s then NX launched as 'one'in 2004 and hastily got clearance for DVTs to be used on the 2004 launch day. Mk3 catering vehicles where in use with BR on the route in the early 90s.
 

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Was a little before that. Anglia had started using 90s then NX launched as 'one'in 2004 and hastily got clearance for DVTs to be used on the 2004 launch day. Mk3 catering vehicles where in use with BR on the route in the early 90s.
Didn’t Anglia hire in 2 or 3 90s from Freightliner for a period prior to NX taking over?
 

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Yes & EWS examples too. Was a colourful time.
90s had appeared on the GE sporadically over the years but the first diagrammed use was on 12 August 2002 when 90042 worked the 0505 Norwich to Liverpool St. The loco stayed on diagram for the rest of the day, finishing on the 1700 Liverpool St to Norwich.

Other Freightliner 90s used during 2002 were 90041/90043/90048/90049/90050.

The use of Freightliner 90s finished in October 2003, the EWS examples appearing regularly from the August of that year.
 

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Many are not aware that BR wanted to introduce a small number of 90s onto the IC Norwich services in the 1990s but where thwarted by the unions. Plan was just to train a small number of drivers at Norwich but this was met with an all or nothing reply so the descision was abandoned.
 

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Yes & EWS examples too. Was a colourful time.

Ah, yes. EWS, ScotRail Barbie, RES, the GNER one plus 90036 with the yellow roof made quite a variety at the time.

Are the ones destined for Freightliner still at Crown Point ?
 

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Ah, yes. EWS, ScotRail Barbie, RES, the GNER one plus 90036 with the yellow roof made quite a variety at the time.

Are the ones destined for Freightliner still at Crown Point ?
All except 90014 which is it Crewe I believe.
 

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Ah, yes. EWS, ScotRail Barbie, RES, the GNER one plus 90036 with the yellow roof made quite a variety at the time.

Are the ones destined for Freightliner still at Crown Point ?
Some are here. Not sure what's happened to them all.
 

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Another move from Norwich CP today as 5Z37 1019 Norwich Gb Railfreight to Butterley M.R.C.
66724 to Peterborough then 47727 TnT 47739 then later 47739 leading 47727
1 FO (11096)
1 TSOB (10403)
4 TSOs (12093, 12107, 12150, 12009)

I believe these are being preserved at the Midland Railway Butterley
 

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There’s a path in tomorrow for 10:16 Mid-Norfolk Railway Sidings to Leicester LIP tomorrow - something else on the move?

Interesting ; seems a long way round !

Used my daily exercise to go have a look - ROG 37 pulling a single DVT.
 

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There’s a path in tomorrow for 10:16 Mid-Norfolk Railway Sidings to Leicester LIP tomorrow - something else on the move?

Interesting ; seems a long way round !

This weekend's engineering work on the MML includes a posession of the line between Market Harborough (exc.) & Bedford (exc.) on Saturday; this is extended to Luton (exc.) on Sunday. No trains to Corby either. Could this be the weekend the Up Fast through Bedford gets wired, and the line goes live? (I appreciate the second point's a bit unlikely!)

GEML blocked between Shenfield and Stratford - so no access to NLL. WAML blocked between Coppermill Jn and Stratford due to emergency engineering works so no access to NLL that way and its mentioned in the final quote above that the MML is blocked Bedford to Market Harborough. I also seem to remember that the Leicester LIP faces south so the only available route seems to be Norwich to Hitchin, ECML, NLL, WCML, then via Nuneaton and South Wigston.
 
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GEML blocked between Shenfield and Stratford - so no access to NLL. WAML blocked between Coppermill Jn and Stratford due to emergency engineering works so no access to NLL that way and its mentioned in the final quote above that the MML is blocked Bedford to Market Harborough. I also seem to remember that the Leicester LIP faces south so the only available route seems to be Norwich to Hitchin, ECML, NLL, WCML, then via Nuneaton and South Wigston.
Leicester LIP is often accessed by a reversal just south of the station, no issues with approaching from the north.
 

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Only theory would be if they wanted the DVT in a particular orientation for some reason.
Route clearance for DVTs would seem an equally plausible reason. They aren't cleared everywhere a "standard" Mark 3 is.
 

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Many thanks. A time-tablers nightmare.
A fellow ex colleague commenting on this move states DVT out of gauge via Harlow and possibly between Ketton and Melton Mowbray so even without the engineering blocks may still have to go via a devious route.
 

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Does anyone have the eight exGA Mk3s going to Chiltern? At the moment I have 12115.
 

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Only theory would be if they wanted the DVT in a particular orientation for some reason.
Could have reversed it via Syston / Trent Triangles but see below

A fellow ex colleague commenting on this move states DVT out of gauge via Harlow and possibly between Ketton and Melton Mowbray so even without the engineering blocks may still have to go via a devious route.

DVTs certainly cleared on GEML and NLL and WCML but now you've said it I don't think they were cleared via Harlow as a diversionary route between Liverpool Street and Norwich.
 

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Reports from Richard Clinnick on Twitter today that the first of the 90s leave Norwich for Freightliner on Friday...
 
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