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LHCS Mk3 disposals

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Phil Scott

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Please use this thread to post details of LHCS Mk3 coach disposals from various companies, including Greater Anglia, GWR, TPX, TfW, Caledonian Sleeper, Chiltern and the long-term stored stock at Long Marston. I will update the list as frequently as I can. Please let me know if I have made any mistakes.

I have also now included BR and early-privatisation era disposals.


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3M, Bracknell

10204


Belmond
11094
12012, 12019, 12026, 12027, 12041, 12046, 12056, 12115, 12151, 12159

Bisley station, Surrey
10516

DATS/ROG, Leicester
10237
11018, 11048
11074, 11090, 11092, 11099
12032, 12078, 12092, 12097, 12122, 12133, 12138, 12154
82115, 82136, 82138
82306

Eastern Rail Services
10212, 10229
10501, 10502, 10600, 10699
12017, 12036, 12043, 12094

Greater Manchester Fire & Rescue
10415
82143

GWR
10551, 10553

Harvington station, Worcestershire
10557

Hawsker station, North Yorkshire
10218

LSL
10411, 10416
10504, 10513, 10519, 10520, 10648, 10650, 10683, 10688
11068, 11070, 11075, 11076, 11077, 11087, 11091, 11098
12111, 12171
82127, 82139

Moreton-in-Marsh Fire Training College
10231
82149

RPSI, Whitehead
10651

ScotRail, Yoker
10256, 10260

SIG, Switzerland
10581, 10673, 10705

WCRC
10598, 10610, 10614, 10703, 10718



Preserved:

Avon Valley Railway

10555

Barry Island Railway
10404
11066, 11072, 11082

Battlefield Railway
10205
10708
12116


Bluebell Railway
10526, 10605, 10690, 10693

Bo’ness & Kinneil Railway
10580, 10668

Bodmin & Wenford Railway
10618

Caledonian Railway, Brechin
10250
10706

Cambrian Heritage Railway, Oswestry
10722

Colne Valley Railway
82121

Crewe - where will these actually be based?
11007
12011

Crewe Heritage Centre
12114
82118

Dartmoor Railway
10511, 10518

Didcot Railway Centre
10509, 10527

East Lancashire Railway
10529, 10565, 10573, 10714, 10719

Ecclesbourne Valley Railway
10597

Embsay & Bolton Abbey Railway
10698

Great Central Railway, Loughborough
10558

Great Central (Northern) Railway, Ruddington
10202, 10206
10605
12087, 12134

Gwili Railway
10517

Mid-Norfolk Railway
10213
10401, 10405, 10414
10561, 10607, 10666
11006, 11011, 11067, 11069, 11073, 11080, 11081, 11085, 11100
12008, 12022, 12030, 12031, 12047, 12063, 12073, 12105, 12110, 12129, 12130, 12132, 12147
82112, 82125, 82133

Midland Railway Centre, Butterley
10403
11096
12009, 12093, 12107, 12150

Nene Valley Railway
10731

North Norfolk Railway
10525

North Yorkshire Moors Railway
10591, 10689

Northampton & Lamport Railway, Pitsford
10412
12049, 12067, 12118
82114

Severn Valley Railway
10569, 10677, 10696

Somerset & Dorset Railway, Midsomer Norton
10258

South Devon Railway
10680

Swanage Railway
10619

Telford Steam Railway
10543, 10676, 10713

Waverley Route Heritage Centre
10544

Weardale Railway
10417
12015, 12034, 12084, 12108, 12126

Wensleydale Railway
10522, 10531

West Somerset Railway
10542



Stored:

Doncaster Wabtec

11028

Great Yarmouth (Eastern Rail Services)
10249, 10259
10413
11078, 11095
12021, 12098
12176. 12180, 12182

Ilford Works
10241

Long Marston (DB Regio - long-term stored)
10222, 10242, 10257
11021, 11097

Long Marston (ex-GA)
10406
11088, 11093, 11101
12035, 12064, 12091, 12125


Southall (WCRC)
10593

Wolverton Works (Porterbrook)
10588
12096



Scrapped:

A. Cartwright, Wembley

10552, 10615

Allsop’s, Nottingham
12065

CF Booth, Rotherham
10201, 10215, 10226, 10232, 10233, 10235, 10246, 10253
10500, 10503, 10506, 10507, 10508, 10510, 10514, 10523, 10538, 10539, 10540, 10548, 10549, 10554, 10559, 10562, 10566, 10571, 10572, 10574, 10575, 10586, 10599, 10603, 10604, 10613, 10617, 10646, 10647, 10649, 10653, 10654, 10655, 10657, 10658, 10662, 10669, 10670, 10681, 10682, 10684, 10685, 10686, 10687, 10691, 10692, 10695, 10697, 10700, 10701, 10702, 10704, 10709, 10710, 10711, 10712, 10721, 10723, 10724, 10725, 10726, 10727, 10730, 10732
11005, 11024, 11026
12016, 12024, 12045, 12051, 12057, 12058, 12081, 12083, 12095, 12099, 12101, 12103, 12120, 12139, 12141, 12143, 12144, 12148, 12156, 12160, 12163, 12166, 12170
82101, 82106, 82109, 82110, 82116, 82120, 82122, 82123, 82126, 82128, 82137, 82140, 82141, 82142, 82147, 82148

Clearway Contract Services at Cardiff Cathays
10717

Derby Litchurch Lane
10505, 10528, 10659, 10671
11037
12023, 12070

EMR, Kingsbury
10240
10606
12158

EMR, Snailwell
10550, 10577, 10583, 10592, 10660, 10667, 10678, 10679, 10694, 10716, 10720, 10728

Finnies, Inverness
10547

Frank Berry at Watford
12039

Glasgow Works
12018

Greenhill Junction
11004
12006

Highland Clearance, Muir of Ord
10515, 10663

JT Landscapes, MoD Caerwent
10207, 10209, 10210, 10220, 10221, 10227, 10234, 10238, 10248, 10251, 10252, 10254
10570, 10579, 10582
12140
82119

Middlesex Metals, Wolverton Works
10664

Morpeth
10524, 10652, 10733

Moreton-in-Marsh
10608

Morton of Stirling, Bo'ness & Kinneil Railway
10535

Raxstar, Eastleigh Works
10224
10512, 10567, 10609, 10665, 10672, 10674, 10707

R.M. Penny at Dunster
10521

Ron Hull Group
10245

Sims Metals, Cardiff
10533, 10537, 10560, 10715

Sims Metals, Newport Docks
10402
10595, 10611
12005, 12013, 12037, 12040, 12042, 12060, 12062, 12066, 12082, 12089, 12109, 12153
12177, 12178, 12179, 12181, 12183, 12184, 12185
82102, 82103, 82105, 82107, 82132, 82152
82307, 82308

Wards Recycling, Ilkeston
11029, 11031, 11033, 11079
12054, 12104, 12119, 12165
82150

Vic Berry, Leicester
11025, 11061
12074
 
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Looking at your list, does anyone know the purpose of 10256, 10260 & 10588 at Yoker Depot?
10256/260 were there for staff training I think? Is 10588 at Yoker - last I saw it was at Inverness to provide parts for the sleepers when they were maintained there.
 

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The body of 12065 went for scrap on 6 February this year to Allsop’s in Nottingham.
 

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10256/260 were there for staff training I think? Is 10588 at Yoker - last I saw it was at Inverness to provide parts for the sleepers when they were maintained there.

Ah, thank you. I've got it down as at ScotRail and assumed it had gone to Yoker as well. Presumably it's now been binned off as Inverness now that Inverness doesn't maintain Mk3 sleepers anymore?

I believe they are used for classroom training

Thanks - I wonder what classroom training is conducted in them?
 

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Can anybody advise the date on which the ex Chiltern slam door set moved to Long Marston and which loco(s) undertook the move?
 

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10245 is at Carnforth, and 12096 is at Wolverton - both await scrap.
I think 10245 was in 'decent' condition when it was at Doncaster before moving to Carnforth. Shame to see its just been left to slowly deteriorate
 

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Ah, thank you. I've got it down as at ScotRail and assumed it had gone to Yoker as well. Presumably it's now been binned off as Inverness now that Inverness doesn't maintain Mk3 sleepers anymore?

10588 was at Glasgow Works 07/14 to 09/16. In recent years it has been shown as at Wolverton in the P5 combined.
 

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I think i saw 12098 and 12021 as part of a five car rake standing at Norwich Station sidings today. The other three coaches were a buffet and two firsts.
 

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82112 was certainly at Dereham on the Mid Norfolk Railway today, 20 May. Can not make out the other number. Photo by Boots Lynn on Friends of MNR Facebook page.82112.jpg
 

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I think 10245 was in 'decent' condition when it was at Doncaster before moving to Carnforth. Shame to see its just been left to slowly deteriorate
Seem to recall that it had been acquired by National Express with a view to having it converted to work with the Mk4 sets (there being no spare buffets for them). Obviously didn't happen. Think Cargo-D might have bought it then, but it remained at Doncaster and was sold to WCRC when Cargo-D went bust - WCRC maintained the Royal Scotsman set at the time, so I assume it was as spares for the two Mk3 sleepers in that set.
 

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Is 11028 still in existence? It was at Doncaster for quite a few years (not sure who owned it), and was used as the testbed for the HST sliding-door design.
 

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Seem to recall that it had been acquired by National Express with a view to having it converted to work with the Mk4 sets (there being no spare buffets for them). Obviously didn't happen. Think Cargo-D might have bought it then, but it remained at Doncaster and was sold to WCRC when Cargo-D went bust - WCRC maintained the Royal Scotsman set at the time, so I assume it was as spares for the two Mk3 sleepers in that set.

If it hasn't been scrapped already, it may have another chance - now that WCRC own the Northern Belle set (which has 2 sleeper vehicles for staff accommodation).
 

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@Phil Scott If you want to include the Mk3 Sleeper Vehicles, I've made this list rough list on the new homes for Caledonian Sleeper vehicles thread. I've not listed which vehicles are in store in Long Marston or scrapped as I'm not sure which vehicles they were.

Mk3 Sleeper.

LSL: 10683, 10519, 10513, 10520, 10650, 10648, 10675, 10504, 10688
ESR: 10501, 10502, 10600, 10699
ELR: 10529, 10565, 10714, 10719
GWR: 10551, 10553
BR: 10690, 10693
MNR: 10607, 10666
EVR: 10597
TSR: 10543
DRC: 10527
BKR: 10580
EVR: 10597

LSL - Locomotive Services Limited
ERS - Eastern Rail Services at Bishop Auckland
ELR - East Lancs Railway
GWR - Great Western Railway (TOC)
EVR - Ecclesbourne Valley Railway
TSR - Telford Steam Railway
DRC - Didcot Railway Centre
BR - Bluebell Railway
MNR - Mid Norfolk Railway
BKR - Bo'ness
EVR - Ecclesbourne Valley Railway
 

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Thanks @fgwrich. I have added the preserved/further use sleepers. I will add the scrapped and stored sleepers later, once I’ve looked them up.
 

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I have now added the preserved, stored and scrapped sleepers. Could anyone please confirm whether the following still exist, and if so, where they are located, and if not when/where they were scrapped?
Thanks

10530
10578

10593 - WCRC Southall
10656
10661

10664 - Wolverton
10667 - EMR

10682
10730 - CF Booths
11037 - Derby
12023 - Derby
12070 - Derby
 
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I have now added the preserved, stored and scrapped sleepers. Could anyone please confirm whether the following still exist, and if so, where they are located, and if not when/where they were scrapped?
Thanks

10530
10578
10593
10656
10661
10664
10667
11037
10593 was at WCRC Southall. I'm not sure if its still there today but I would assume that it is
 

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I have now added the preserved, stored and scrapped sleepers. Could anyone please confirm whether the following still exist, and if so, where they are located, and if not when/where they were scrapped?
Thanks

10530
10578
10593 - WCRC Southall
10656
10661
10664
10667
10682
10730
11037
12023
12070

I can help with the following:
10664 Middlesex Metals at Wolverton Works 6.05
10667 EMR Snailwell 3.01
10730 C.F.Booth Rotherham 5.06
11037 Derby Litchurch Lane 3.08
12023 Derby Litchurch Lane 3.08
12070 Derby Litchurch Lane 3.08
 

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I can help with the following:
10664 Middlesex Metals at Wolverton Works 6.05
10667 EMR Snailwell 3.01
10730 C.F.Booth Rotherham 5.06
11037 Derby Litchurch Lane 3.08
12023 Derby Litchurch Lane 3.08
12070 Derby Litchurch Lane 3.08
Thanks
 

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Apologises if this has been asked before in other threads but I’m relatively new to this. Is there any way I can find the dates and details of what’s being withdrawn and scrapped, and when and where it’s going? Before the stock scrapped Or would it be a case of only knowing once it’s gone?
 
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