Different Driver Depot, Route and Traction cards

[godfreycomplex]

SWR are presently recruiting for qualified drivers at the new Feltham depot being constructed for the class 701 Aventra stock. I was also wondering if Woking drivers sign for the Chertsey branch line too, also not already mentioned.

I’ll add that in the driver depots thread.

Don't Northern crews in Sheffield do Manchester Picc?

Nope, because it’s a further ATN depot and Manchester - Sheffield was a former FNW service. Manchester Piccadilly do all the Hope Valley work for Northern

 

[craigybagel]

Thanks again to everyone for all the help I've received so far. I've actually now run into a hurdle as the post with all the information on it has reached 50000 characters, which apparently is the limit of the forum. I'm going to message the @Moderating team to see if they can split the first post in two for me, but until then there might be a slight delay before I can add in any more information. Please do keep sending it my way though and I'll update as soon as I can!

 

[DunfordBridge]

I’ll add that in the driver depots thread.

Looks like you pre-empted me because I was meaning to suggest that to you. As far as I know construction of the depot has still been ongoing during the covid period.

Thanks again to everyone for all the help I've received so far. I've actually now run into a hurdle as the post with all the information on it has reached 50000 characters, which apparently is the limit of the forum. I'm going to message the @Moderating team to see if they can split the first post in two for me, but until then there might be a slight delay before I can add in any more information. Please do keep sending it my way though and I'll update as soon as I can!

I think we once had a discussion about how it might be an idea to split the initial post, now containing the spoilers, on the basis of region which was a bit of a non-starter. I was then wondering if it should be split on the basis of the BR sectors of Inter City, Network South East and Regional Railways, but even that is not clear cut because EMR and GWR operate Inter City services as well as regional services. Even Transpennine Express is not so easy to categorise anymore.

Maybe it might be an idea to divide solely on the basis of whether an operator works out of London or not???

 

[craigybagel]

Thanks to @ainsworth74 for so kindly splitting the post for me, that should keep us ticking over for a while.

Looks like you pre-empted me because I was meaning to suggest that to you. As far as I know construction of the depot has still been ongoing during the covid period.



I think we once had a discussion about how it might be an idea to split the initial post, now containing the spoilers, on the basis of region which was a bit of a non-starter. I was then wondering if it should be split on the basis of the BR sectors of Inter City, Network South East and Regional Railways, but even that is not clear cut because EMR and GWR operate Inter City services as well as regional services. Even Transpennine Express is not so easy to categorise anymore.

Maybe it might be an idea to divide solely on the basis of whether an operator works out of London or not???

I think for now I'm just going to keep it simple and split it half and half, and keep it to alphabetical, but thanks for the suggestion!

 

[craigybagel]

Liverpool

Traction:
185 + 802

Routes:

Liverpool - York via Manchester Victoria, Huddersfield and Leeds

Manchester Victoria - Manchester Airport via the Orsdall Chord

Manchester Piccadilly - Stalybridge via Guide Bridge

Edge Hill - Castlefield Junction via Warrington Central currently as a diversion

Edge Hill depot

No Liverpool drivers sign diversions except the Cheshire Lines.

It should also be noted that all Liverpool conductors sign York - Newcastle Central and some still sign York - Scarborough

Manchester Piccadilly

There's 3 links at Piccadilly. The Hull Link, Scarborough link and West Coast link.

Hull link

Traction:
185

Routes:

Liverpool - York via Manchester Victoria, Huddersfield and Leeds

Manchester Victoria - Manchester Airport via the Orsdall Chord

Manchester Piccadilly - Stalybridge via Guide Bridge

Micklefield - Hull

Ardwick depot

Some diversions - can't remember which ones

Scarborough Link

Traction:
185 + Class 68/Mk5

Routes:

Liverpool - York via Manchester Victoria, Huddersfield and Leeds

York - Scarborough

Manchester Victoria - Manchester Airport via the Orsdall Chord

Manchester Piccadilly - Stalybridge via Guide Bridge

Edge Hill - Castlefield Junction via Warrington Central

Ardwick Depot

Longsight Depot

Again I'm pretty sure they sign the Calder Valley as a diversion and maybe some others but not 100% sure.

West Coast Link

Traction:
185 + 397

Routes:
Manchester Airport - Edinburgh Waverly via Preston

Longsight Depot

Just thinking about this - are there some TPE drivers who sign Manchester/Liverpool - Crewe? I know they were route learning last year and I see the 68/MKVs making ECS moves from there quite regularly.

 

[8J]

Just thinking about this - are there some TPE drivers who sign Manchester/Liverpool - Crewe? I know they were route learning last year and I see the 68/MKVs making ECS moves from there quite regularly.

A number of instructors from Piccadilly did I believe. No drivers based at Liverpool sign the 68s, nor does it look like they will do.

 

[godfreycomplex]

Looks like you pre-empted me because I was meaning to suggest that to you. As far as I know construction of the depot has still been ongoing during the covid period.

It has indeed. Was meant to open as a depot next May T/T change I think but who knows now

 

[CW2]

In normal times, 1N57 0505 York - Redcar runs via (and reverses at) Darlington. Presumably that is in the York TPE diagrams?

 

[J-P_L]

In normal times, 1N57 0505 York - Redcar runs via (and reverses at) Darlington. Presumably that is in the York TPE diagrams?

In Covid times it still does via Dinsdale (now Redcar is hourly). It’s listed in the York driver diagrams “Northallerton to Thornaby (via Dinsdale, avoiding Yarm)”

1N57 is a York crew. Redcar work is mainly covered by York crews (with only 1 or 2 Scarborough crews during the day).

 

[MML]

I notice LNER perform regular changes of drivers on the Edinburgh to/from Kings Cross diagrams, yet York is not listed under LNER. Where are these drivers based ?

 

[craigybagel]

I notice LNER perform regular changes of drivers on the Edinburgh to/from Kings Cross diagrams, yet York is not listed under LNER. Where are these drivers based ?

These will be drivers from all the LNER depots (except Edinburgh who don't go that far) who will work to York, have a break, and then work another train again. Plenty of drivers at plenty of TOCs have breaks at stations that there aren't traincrew depots located at. So long as there are the right facilities available, a driver can have a break there.

 

[MML]

These will be drivers from all the LNER depots (except Edinburgh who don't go that far) who will work to York, have a break, and then work another train again. Plenty of drivers at plenty of TOCs have breaks at stations that there aren't traincrew depots located at. So long as there are the right facilities available, a driver can have a break there.

Thank you. Interesting stuff.
I had always assumed a Kings Cross driver would always operate right through to Scotland and vice versa.
Is this not possible due to duty time restrictions without a rest break or more to do with getting crew back to their home base at the end of duty ? It would be nice if a railway magazine could dedicate an article to crew rostering one time to give a little more background on how crews are rostered with a timetable, particularly when night stops away from base are to be minimised.

 

[43066]

Thank you. Interesting stuff.
I had always assumed a Kings Cross driver would always operate right through to Scotland and vice versa.
Is this not possible due to duty time restrictions without a rest break or more to do with getting crew back to their home base at the end of duty ? It would be nice if a railway magazine could dedicate an article to crew rostering one time to give a little more background on how crews are rostered with a timetable, particularly when night stops away from base are to be minimised.

London to Scotland in one journey would be hard on the bladder! All TOCs have agreed max shift lengths, and agreed maximum length of time spent “in the chair” before a break.

LNER London drivers only go as far as Newcastle (even that could be up to around 3:30 for a stopper). Some Newcastle drivers (depending on link) sign the entire ECML. Newcastle has a “lodge link” where drivers work services to the highlands, lodge overnight, and then work back south the next morning.

Much the same on the WCML: London drivers only go as far as Preston. Preston drivers sign the whole route, but again, wouldn’t be expected to work a train all the way from Scotland to London.

 

[DunfordBridge]

It has indeed. Was meant to open as a depot next May T/T change I think but who knows now

December timetable is looking good. Not sure how long it takes to get a qualified driver through the system potentially learning new routes and new traction for sure.

 

[craigybagel]

Thank you. Interesting stuff.
I had always assumed a Kings Cross driver would always operate right through to Scotland and vice versa.
Is this not possible due to duty time restrictions without a rest break or more to do with getting crew back to their home base at the end of duty ? It would be nice if a railway magazine could dedicate an article to crew rostering one time to give a little more background on how crews are rostered with a timetable, particularly when night stops away from base are to be minimised.

London to Scotland in one journey would be hard on the bladder! All TOCs have agreed max shift lengths, and agreed maximum length of time spent “in the chair” before a break.

LNER London drivers only go as far as Newcastle (even that could be up to around 3:30 for a stopper). Some Newcastle drivers (depending on link) sign the entire ECML. Newcastle has a “lodge link” where drivers work services to the highlands, lodge overnight, and then work back south the next morning.

Much the same on the WCML: London drivers only go as far as Preston. Preston drivers sign the whole route, but again, wouldn’t be expected to work a train all the way from Scotland to London.

As far as I know, the LNER Inverness lodge turns (they involve two drivers in a hotel there each night) are the last remaining lodge turns for a driver at a franchised passenger TOC left in this country. Caledonian Sleeper stewards and guards lodge overnight (or more accurately, overday in their case), but the drivers are from GBRF and based at local Depots. Opens Access TOCs Grand Central and Hull Trains drivers do lodge in London AFAIK, as those TOCs are too small to justify the expense of opening a drivers depot in the capital, but other then that all passenger drivers are normally rostered to get back home every day, and the diagrams set out accordingly.

 

[SlimJim1694]

Just a suggestion, but would it be possible to add in approximate driver establishments for these depots? Some of them will be in the hundreds and others you'll be able to count on one hand. I just thought it might be interesting and helpful for anyone using this thread when considering applying for jobs. Just a thought. I think this is a great thread anyway BTW.

 

[Galvanize]

Much the same on the WCML: London drivers only go as far as Preston. Preston drivers sign the whole route, but again, wouldn’t be expected to work a train all the way from Scotland to London.

One time a Preston Driver worked the entire 401 mile journey from Glasgow Central to London Euston, it wasn’t a normal timetabled working, it was Virgin Trains’s Charity Non Stop speed run in September 2006. There was another Driver on hand who was prepared to take over at some point on the journey if need be, but the same Driver worked it all the way without stopping. He made sure he didn’t have too much liquids before setting off from Glasgow...3 hours and 55 minutes as the run took...would have been a long time to have been sat cross legged!

 

[irish_rail]

One time a Preston Driver worked the entire 401 mile journey from Glasgow Central to London Euston, it wasn’t a normal timetabled working, it was Virgin Trains’s Charity Non Stop speed run in September 2006. There was another Driver on hand who was prepared to take over at some point on the journey if need be, but the same Driver worked it all the way without stopping. He made sure he didn’t have too much liquids before setting off from Glasgow...3 hours and 55 minutes as the run took...would have been a long time to have been sat cross legged!

Plymouth drivers used to regularly do that time without stopping on the 0948 Plymouth to paddington via Bristol which was I think 3hrs 50, but frequently ran late taking us over 4 hours.

 

[Thedispatcher]

Worcester Shrub Hill
Traction:
153, 170, 172
Routes:
Worcester - Kidderminster - Moor Street - Dorridge/Stratford on Avon
Birmingham New Street - University/Camp Hill - Bromsgrove - Worcester - Hereford

Right, couple of little things. We as drivers don’t sign Stratford via Dorridge. We do however sign Stratford via Whitlock’s End and the North Warwicks line. The guards sign both ways. Also, two little bits missing, we sign the road between Galton/Smethwick junctions into New Street through Arena tunnel. Finally, we go over St Andrews Junction and Bordesley to Tyseley Depot.

 

[craigybagel]

Worcester Shrub Hill
Traction:
153, 170, 172
Routes:
Worcester - Kidderminster - Moor Street - Dorridge/Stratford on Avon
Birmingham New Street - University/Camp Hill - Bromsgrove - Worcester - Hereford

Right, couple of little things. We as drivers don’t sign Stratford via Dorridge. We do however sign Stratford via Whitlock’s End and the North Warwicks line. The guards sign both ways. Also, two little bits missing, we sign the road between Galton/Smethwick junctions into New Street through Arena tunnel. Finally, we go over St Andrews Junction and Bordesley to Tyseley Depot.

Thanks, have updated accordingly.

 

[mwest123]

Train Operating Companies - L-Z

Spoiler: LNER

LNER

Doncaster
Traction:
67,91,80x
Routes:
Kings Cross - Newcastle
Doncaster - York via Hambledon
Doncaster - Leeds via Wakefield Westgate and via Hare Park/Altofts
Doncaster - Hull via Selby and Goole
Doncaster - Peterborough via Sleaford
Doncaster Carr depot.


Edinburgh
Traction:
91,80x
Routes:
Aberdeen - Newcastle via Kirkcaldy and Fife circle, Dundee - Haymarket via Falkirk and Perth - Ladybank
Edinburgh - Glasgow Central/Carlisle
Craigentinny depot
Clayhills depot
Polmadie depot

Kings Cross
Traction:
91,80x, 08 and 67 for some
Routes:
Kings Cross - Newcastle
Doncaster - Leeds via Wakefield Westgate
Newark North Gate - Lincoln
Hertford loop
Doncaster decoy
Hitchin - Peterborough via Cambridge
Bounds Green Depot & Ferme Park Sidings

Leeds
Traction:
91,80x
Routes:
Leeds - Kings Cross via Wakefield Westgate and via Hare Park/Altofts and via Shaftholme
Leeds - Newcastle via Castleford and Peckfield
Doncaster - York via Shaftholme and via Hambledon
Doncaster - Peterborough via Sleaford
Leeds - Bradford FS/Harrogate/Huddersfield/Skipton
Hertford Loop
Doncaster decoy
Neville Hill depot


Newcastle
Traction:
91,80x
Routes:
Newcastle - Kings Cross via Durham & Sunderland
Hertford Loop
North link adds Newcastle - Edinburgh and Newcastle - Carlisle
Lodge link adds Edinburgh - Aberdeen (including Fife Circle and Ladybank - Dundee via Perth) and Edinburgh - Inverness via Falkirk and Inverness TMD

Spoiler: London Overground

London Overground

Chingford
Traction:
315,710
Routes:
London Liverpool Street - Chingford/Enfield Town/Cheshunt (via Southbury)

Euston
Traction:
378,710
Routes:
London Euston - Watford Junction via DC lines
Richmond - Willesden Junction - Stratford

New Cross Gate
Traction:
378
Routes:
Highbury & Islington - Clapham Junction/West Croydon/Crystal Palace/Battersea Park/New Cross
Night Link: Kensington Olympia to New Cross Gate CSD via Longhedge Junction - 10 car unit swaps

Watford Junction
Traction:
378,710
Routes:
London Euston - Watford Junction via DC lines
Richmond - Willesden Junction - Stratford

Willesden Junction
Traction:
378,710
Routes:
London Euston - Watford Junction via DC lines (link dependant)
Richmond - Willesden Junction - Stratford
Gospel Oak - Barking

Spoiler: Merseyrail

Merseyrail

Birkenhead Central
Traction:
507,508 (soon 777)
Routes:
Liverpool Loop - West Kirby/New Brighton/Ellesmere Port/Chester

Kirkdale
Traction:
507,508 (soon 777)
Routes:
Southport - Liverpool - Hunts Cross
Liverpool - Ormskirk
Liverpool - Kirkby

Southport
Traction:
507,508 (soon 777)
Routes:
Southport - Liverpool - Hunts Cross
Liverpool - Ormskirk
Liverpool - Kirkby

*Small amount of drivers at Birkenhead and Kirkdale who sign the other depot's routes

Spoiler: MTR CrossRail

MTR Lizard Line

Abbey Wood:
Traction:
315, 345 (reduced and full length),360
Routes:
London Paddington - Heathrow
Paddington - Reading
London Liverpool St - Shenfield

Ilford
Traction:
315 / 345 (reduced length),317
Routes:
Liverpool Street to Shenfield
Romford to Upminster
London Paddington to West Drayton
Ilford depot (1 link only)

Gidea Park
Traction
315 / 345 (reduced length)
Routes:
Liverpool Street to Shenfield
Paddington to Hayes

Maidenhead
Traction:
315, 345 (reduced and full length),360
Routes:
London Paddington - Heathrow
Paddington - Reading
London Liverpool St - Shenfield

Old Oak Common
Traction:
315, 345 (reduced and full length),360
Routes:
London Paddington - Heathrow
Paddington - Reading
London Liverpool St - Shenfield

Plumstead
Traction:
315, 345 (reduced and full length),360
Routes:
London Paddington - Heathrow
Paddington - Reading
London Liverpool St - Shenfield

Shenfield
Traction:
315/345 (full and reduced length)
Routes:
Liverpool Street to Shenfield
Paddington to Heathrow

Spoiler: Northern

Northern

Barrow

Blackburn
Traction:
142,150,153,156, 158
Routes:
Blackburn-Colne/Clitheroe
Blackburn-Blackpool South
Preston-Ormskirk
Blackburn-Manchester Victoria via Todmorden and Via Darwen

Blackpool North

Buxton
Traction:
150,156,319,331
Routes:
Buxton-Manchester Picc
Manchester Picc-Blackpool North (via Bolton & Chorley and via Wigan + WCML to Preston)
Manchester Piccadilly-Alderley Edge
Manchester Piccadilly-Manchester Airport
Wigan Wallgate

Carlisle
Traction:
153,156,158
Routes:
Carlisle - Dumfries
Carlisle - Newcastle
Carlisle - Leeds

Darlington

Doncaster

Harrogate

Huddersfield

Hull

Leeds

Liverpool Lime Street
Traction:
150,156,195,319,323,331
Routes:
Lime Street - Manchester Airport/Victoria via Chat Moss/CLC (including via Golborne Junction to Wigan)
Lime Street - Blackpool North (including via Ince Moss)
Lime Street - Crewe via Runcorn
Manchester Victoria - Stalybridge
Earlestown - Chester
Helsby - Ellesmere Port
Warrington BQ - Wigan NW

Manchester Piccadilly

Manchester Victoria
Traction:
150,153,155,156,158,195,319,331, (soon 769)
Routes:
Manchester Victoria - Stalybridge
Stalybridge - Huddersfield
Manchester Victoria - Leeds via Elland
Manchester Victoria - Leeds via Bradford
Manchester Victoria - Blackburn via Todmorden
Manchester Victoria - Blackburn via Darwen
Blackburn - Clitheroe
Blackburn - Preston
Manchester Victoria - Preston via Chorley
Preston - Blackpool North
Manchester Victoria - Wigan Wallgate/North Western via Bolton
Manchester Victoria - Wigan Wallgate/North Western via Atherton
Wigan North Western - Preston
Wigan Wallgate - Kirkby
Wigan Wallgate - Southport
Manchester Victoria - Liverpool Lime St
Manchester Victoria - Chester via Warrington Bank Quay
Salford Crescent - Manchester Piccadilly
Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Airport
Manchester Piccadilly - Chester via Altrincham
Manchester Piccadilly - Hazel Grove
Stockport - Stalybridge via Denton
Various diversions for the above
Some routes are link dependant

Newcastle
Traction:
156,158
Routes:
Newcastle to Nunthorpe via Durham Coast
Newcastle to Carlisle
Newcastle to Darlington via ECML
Newcastle to Morpeth
Darlington to Saltburn
Stockton Cut
Heaton Depot
Morpeth to Chathill (A link)
Darlington to Bishop Auckland (B link)

Skipton
Traction:
150,153,158,331,333
Routes:
Skipton - Leeds/Bradford FS/Ilkley triangle
Skipton - Lancaster - Morecambe (link dependant)
Skipton - Carlisle (link dependant)

Sheffield
Traction:
150,153,158,170,195
Routes:
Sheffield to Lincoln.
Sheffield to Doncaster (via Rotherham, via Masborough direct, and via Kilnhurst).
Doncaster to Scunthorpe (via Thorne South) and Doncaster to Hull (via Thorne North).
Sheffield to Huddersfield.
Sheffield to Leeds (via Moorthorpe, via Barnsley and Wakefield direct, and via Barnsley with a reversal at Castleford).
Sheffield to York via Pontefract Baghill (Link One and Two).
Sheffield to Cleethorpes via Brigg (Link One).
Sheffield to Nottingham via Dronfield and via Barrow Hill (Link One and Two)

Wigan Wallgate
Traction:
142, 150, 156, 158, 195, 319, 331
Routes:
Wigan-Southport/Kirkby
Wigan-Manchester Vic/Stalybridge (via Bolton/Atherton)
Wigan-Manchester Airport (via Bolton/Atherton/Chat Moss)
Wigan-Liverpool via St Helens Central
Wigan-Liverpool via Earlestown (Golborne Jn)
Wigan-Blackpool North
Preston-Bolton (via Chorley)
Preston-Lancaster-Barrow
Lancaster-Morecambe

Workington
Traction:
153,156
Routes:
Carlisle - Workington - Barrow - Lancaster

York

Spoiler: Scotrail

Scotrail

Aberdeen
Traction:
158,170,HST
Routes:
Aberdeen - Inverness
Aberdeen - Dundee - Perth - Glasgow Queen Street
Dundee - Edinburgh
Fife Circle

Airdrie

Ayr

Bathgate

Corkerhill

Dumfries
Traction:
156
Routes:
Dumfries - Carlisle
Dumfries - Kilmarnock - Glasgow Central
Glasgow - East Kilbride

Dundee
Traction:
158,170,HST
Routes:
Dundee - Aberdeen
Dundee - Edinburgh
Dundee - Perth
Ladybank - Perth
Fife Circle

Edinburgh Waverley
Traction:
158,170,380,385,HST
Routes:
Edinburgh - Dundee
Fife Circle
Ladybank - Perth
Edinburgh - Glagow Queen St (via Croy and also Cumbernauld)
Falkirk - Dunblane
Edinburgh - Glasgow Central (via Shotts only)
Edinburgh - Tweedbank
Edinburgh - North Berwick/Dunbar.
Both Traction and Routes are link dependant

Fort William
Traction:
156
Routes:
Mallaig - Fort William
Fort William - Crianlarich

Glasgow Central

Glasgow Queen Street
Traction:
156,158,170,385,HST (link dependant)
Routes:
Glasgow - Edinburgh (via Croy and also via Cumbernauld)
Glasgow - Anniesland
Glasgow - Alloa
Stirling - Perth (link dependant)
Glasgow - Oban (link dependant)

Mallaig
Traction:
156
Routes:
Mallaig - Fort William
Fort William - Crianlarich

Motherwell

Helensburgh

Inverness
Traction:
158,170,HST
Routes:
Inverness - Perth
Inverness - Aberdeen
Inverness - Kyle of Lochalsh
Dingwall - Wick
Georgemas Junction - Thurso

Kyle of Lochalsh
Traction:
158
Routes:
Kyle of Lochalsh - Inverness

Gourock

Oban
Traction:
156
Routes:
Oban - Crianlarich - Glasgow Queen Street

Perth
Traction:
158,170,HST
Routes:
Perth - Inverness
Perth - Aberdeen
Perth - Glasgow Queen Street
Perth - Edinburgh (via Ladybank and also via Stirling)
Ladybank - Dundee
Fife Circle

Shields

Stirling
Traction:
385
Routes:
Stirling - Dunblane
Stirling - Alloa
Stirling - Edinburgh / Queen St (via Croy and also Cumbernauld)

Stranraer
Traction:
156
Routes:
Stranraer - Ayr - Kilmarnock - Glasgow Central

Tweedbank
Traction:
158,170,380,385
Routes:
Tweedbank - Edinburgh
Fife Circle
Edinburgh - North Berwick


Wick
Traction:
158
Routes:
Wick - Inverness
Georgemas Junction - Thurso

Yoker

Spoiler: Southeastern

Southeastern

Ashford
Traction:
375,377
Routes:
Ramsgate - London Charing X via Dover or Canterbury West
Ashford - London Victoria via Maidstone East
London Bridge - London Cannon Street
Bromley South - London Blackfriars


Ashford HS
Traction:
395s
Routes: St Pancras to St Pancras via HS1 to Ebbsfleet, North Kent, Chatham Mainline, Ashford - Ramsgate Line - HS1.
Ashford - Folkestone - Dover Priory via the sea wall.
Strood - Maidstone West
Faversham - Dover via Canterbury East

Charing Cross
Traction:
465,466,375,376,
Routes:
All metro area routes except Grove Park - Bromley North and the Catford Loop/Blackfriars. Also sign to Tun Wells and all depots/sidings en route. .

Dartford
Traction:
465,466,376
Routes:
All metro routes except via Chathams and Catford Loop, Blackfriars or Bromley North, or Orpington - Sevenoaks

Dover;

Faversham

Faversham HS
Traction:
395s
Routes: St Pancras to St Pancras via HS1 to Ebbsfleet, North Kent, Chatham Mainline, Ashford - Ramsgate Line - HS1.
Ashford - Folkestone - Dover Priory via the sea wall.
Strood - Maidstone West
Faversham - Dover via Canterbury East

Gillingham

Grove Park
Traction:
465,466,375,376, 377 (link dependant)
Routes:
All metro area routes. Also (link dependent) sign to Tun Wells, and Tonbridge to Ashford

Hastings
Traction:
375,377
Routes:
Hastings - Tonbridge - London Charing Cross
Ore - Hastings
Tonbridge - Redhill - London Bridge

Slade Green
Traction:
465,466,375,376
Routes:
All metro routes except via Chathams and Catford Loop, Blackfriars or Bromley North
Strood - Tonbridge (link dependent)

Tonbridge
Traction:
375,377,465,466
Routes:
Ramsgate - London Charing X via Dover or Canterbury West
Ashford - London Victoria via Maidstone East
London Bridge - London Cannon Street
Bromley South - London Blackfriars
Tonbridge - Redhill - London Bridge
Tonbridge - Hastings
Paddock Wood - Strood

Orpington
Traction:
465,466,376
All metro area routes except Bromley North.

Ramsgate:
Traction:
375
Routes:
Ramsgate - London via Chatham mainline and Southeastern Mainline (+ diversion via Strood and North Kent Line)
Ashford - London via Maidstone Line.
Faversham - Dover via Canterbury East

Ramsgate HS
Traction:
395s
Routes: St Pancras to St Pancras via HS1 to Ebbsfleet, North Kent, Chatham Mainline, Ashford - Ramsgate Line - HS1.
Ashford - Folkestone - Dover Priory via the sea wall.
Strood - Maidstone West

Victoria:
Traction:
465, 466, 375, 376, 377,
Routes:
SE Metro Routes
London - Faversham via the Chathams
London - Ashford via Maidstone Line
Ashford - Canterbury West

Spoiler: Southern

Southern

Barnham
Traction:
313,377
Routes:
Portsmouth Harbour to Brighton
Bognor branch
Littlehampton Branch
Victoria via Hove and Horsham
London Bridge low level
Southampton (link 1 only)

Brighton
Traction:
313,377,387
Routes:
Brighton - London Victoria
East Croydon - London Bridge
Brighton - Ore
Lewes - Seaford
Lewes - Wivelsfield
Brighton - Portsmouth Harbour
Littlehampton Branch
Bognor Branch
Havant - Southampton (link 1 only)


Caterham
Traction:
377, 455
Routes:
London Bridge-East Croydon (via Forest Hill)
London Victoria-Caterham (via Norbury)
Purley-Tattenham Corner
London Bridge-Streatham Common (via Tulse Hill)
Balham-Sydenham/Norwood Junction (via Crystal Palace)
Norwood Junction/Selhurst-Epsom Downs (via West Croydon and Sutton)

Eastbourne
Traction:
313,377,171 (Link 1 only)
Routes:
Brighton - Ore
Lewes - Seaford
Lewes - London Victoria
East Croydon - London Bridge
Ore - Ashford link 1 only


Epsom
Traction:
377, 455
Route:
London Bridge-East Croydon (via Forest Hill)
Victoria-Caterham (via Norbury)
Purley-Tattenham Corner
Balham-Sydenham/Norwood Junction (via Crystal Palace)
Selhurst/Norwood Junction-Horsham (via West Croydon, Sutton and Dorking)
Sutton-Epsom Downs

Horsham

London Bridge
Traction:
377,455
Routes:
London Bridge-East Croydon (via Forest Hill)
London Bridge-Streatham Common (via Tulse Hill)
London Victoria-Caterham (via Norbury and East Croydon)
Streatham-Sutton (via Mitcham)
Streatham-Sutton (via Tooting and Wimbledon)
Tulse Hill-Beckenham Junction (via Crystal Palace)
Balham-Sydenham (via Crystal Palace)
Crystal Palace-Norwood Junction
Norwood Junction/Selhurst-Dorking (via West Croydon and Sutton)
Sutton-Epsom Downs
Purley-Tattenham Corner.
Leigham Spur (Tulse Hill-Streatham Hill, usually used by ECS moves


Norwood
Traction:
171 (Links 1 and 2 only),377,455
Routes:
London Bridge-East Croydon (via Forest Hill)
London Bridge-Streatham Common (via Tulse Hill)
London Victoria-Purley (via Norbury and East Croydon)
Streatham-Sutton (via Mitcham)
Tulse Hill-Crystal Palace
Balham-Sydenham (via Crystal Palace)
Crystal Palace-Norwood Junction
Norwood Junction/Selhurst-Dorking (via West Croydon and Sutton)
South Croydon-East Grinstead (via Oxted)
Purley-Tattenham Corner (Links 2 and 3 only)
Hurst Green-Uckfield (Links 1 and 2 only)
Dorking-Horsham (via Holmwood, Link 2 only)
Clapham Junction-Milton Keynes Central (via Kensington Olympia, Link 1 only)
Leigham Spur (Tulse Hill-Streatham Hill)
Streatham Common-Imperial Wharf (via Herne Hill, Brixton and Factory Junction Link 1 only)





Redhill

Selhurst
Traction:
377,387 (Link 1 only),455
Routes:
London Bridge-East Croydon (via Forest Hill)
London Bridge-Streatham Common (via Tulse Hill)
London Victoria-Caterham (via Norbury and East Croydon)
Streatham-Sutton (via Mitcham, Links 1-3 only)
Streatham-Sutton (via Tooting and Wimbledon, Link 1 only)
Tulse Hill-Beckenham Junction (via Crystal Palace)
Balham-Sydenham (via Crystal Palace)
Crystal Palace-Norwood Junction
Norwood Junction/Selhurst-Dorking (via West Croydon and Sutton, Link 4 don't sign beyond Epsom)
Sutton-Epsom Downs
Purley-Tattenham Corner.
East Croydon-Reigate (via Coulsdon South and Redhill, Link 3 only)
East Croydon-Brighton (via Redhill and Quarry Tunnel, Link 1 only)
Dorking-Horsham (via Holmwood, Link 1 only)
Three Bridges-Horsham (via Crawley, Link 1 only)
Leatherhead-Guildford (via Effingham Junction, Link 2 only)
Leigham Spur
Streatham Common-Victoria (via Herne Hill and Brixton, Link 1 only)


Three Bridges

Victoria
Traction:
377,455
Routes:
London Victoria-East Croydon (via Norbury)
London Bridge-East Croydon (via Forest Hill)
London Bridge-Tulse Hill (via Peckham Rye, Link 2 only)
Balham-Norwood Junction/Sydenham (via Crystal Palace)
Crystal Palace-Beckenham Junction (Link 2 only)
Tulse Hill-Streatham Common (Link 2 only)
Streatham North Junction-Sutton (via Mitcham Junction)
Norwood Junction/Selhurst-Dorking (via West Croydon and Sutton)
Sutton-Epsom Downs
South Croydon-East Grinstead (via Oxted)
Peckham Rye-London Victoria (via Denmark Hill and Stewarts Lane, link 2 only)
East Croydon-Brighton (via Redhill and Quarry Tunnel, link 1 only)
Keymer Junction-Ore (via Lewes and Eastbourne, Link 1 only)
Brighton-Lewes (via Moulscoombe, Link 1 only)
Brighton-Littlehampton (via Hove and Worthing plus spur from Preston Park, Link 1 only)
Three Bridges-Bognor Regis (via Crawley and the Arun Valley, Link 1 only)
Dorking-Horsham (via Holmwood, Link 1 only)
Leigham Spur (Tulse Hill-Streatham Hill, Link 2 only)
London Victoria-Tulse Hill via Brixton and Herne Hill
Peckham Rye-London Victoria (via Denmark Hill and Stewarts Lane, link 2 only)

Spoiler: South Western Railway

South Western Railway

Basingstoke
Traction:
158/9 (Link dependant), 444,450
Routes:
Waterloo - Southampton Central via Surbiton and Feltham (including Hounslow loop and Weybridge bay)
Eastleigh - Portsmouth Harbour
Pirbright Junction - Alton
Barton Mill depot and Basingstoke sidings
Fareham - Southampton
Reading - Salisbury (link dependant)

Bournemouth
Traction:
158/9, 442 (both link dependant) 444,450
Routes:
Weymouth - Waterloo via Basingstoke and Haslemere.
Brockenhurst - Lymington Pier
Cosham/Farlington Jct - Portsmouth Harbour (link dependant)

Farnham
Traction:
444, 450, 455, 456, 458 (701 in future)
Routes:
Waterloo to Alton
Waterloo to Basingstoke
Waterloo to Guildford (via Cobham)
Waterloo to Haslemere (via Worplesdon)
Waterloo to Reading (via Hounslow & Richmond)
Aldershot to Ascot
Aldershot to Guildford

Feltham (Opening Soon)

Fratton
Traction:
158,159,442 (all link dependant), 444,450
Routes:
Portsmouth Harbour to Waterloo via Haslemere and Basingstoke
Fareham to Southampton via Netley
Southampton - Poole sidings and Guildford - Surbiton via Cobham (link dependant)
Southampton - Salisbury via Redbridge (link dependant)

Guildford;
Traction:
444, 450, 455, 456 (701 in future)
Routes:
Waterloo to Alton
Waterloo to Chessington South
Waterloo to Dorking
Waterloo to Guildford (via Cobham)
Waterloo to Guildford (via Epsom)
Waterloo to Hampton Court
Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour (via Worplesdon)
Aldershot to Ascot
Aldershot to Guildford

Northam
Traction:
444/450
Routes:
Waterloo - Poole via Basingstoke and Haslemere
Eastleigh - Fareham
Fareham/Cosham - Portsmouth Harbour

Ryde St John’s Road
Traction:
483
Routes:
Ryde - Shanklin

Salisbury
Traction:
158/159, (link dependent add 444/450)
Routes:
Waterloo - Exeter St Davids via Andover and Southampton Central
Romsey - Eastleigh via Chandler’s Ford
Salisbury - Bristol TM
Westbury - Yeovil Junction via Castle Cary

Strawberry Hill
Traction:
444, 450, 455, 456, 458, 707 (701)
Routes:
Waterloo-Woking
Waterloo-Hampton Court
Waterloo-Chessington South
Waterloo-Guildford via Cobham
Waterloo-Shepperton via Richmond and Wimbledon, and the Kingston Loop
Waterloo-Reading via Richmond and Hounslow, and the Hounslow Loop
Staines-Windsor
Virginia Water-Weybridge
East Putney (Wandsworth Town-Wimbledon)

Staines
Traction:
444, 450, 455, 456, 458, 707 (701)
Routes:
Waterloo-Woking
Waterloo-Hampton Court
Kingston Loop
Hounslow Loop
Waterloo-Reading via Richmond and Hounslow
Staines-Windsor
Virginia Water-Weybridge

Waterloo
Traction:
444, 450, 455, 456, 458, 707 (701) 158/9 in top link only
Waterloo-Guildford via Woking
Waterloo-Guildford via Cobham
Waterloo-Guildford via Epsom
Waterloo-Hampton Court
Waterloo-Dorking
Waterloo-Chessington South
Waterloo-Shepperton via Richmond and Wimbledon, and the Kingston Loop
Waterloo-Windsor via Richmond and Hounslow, and the Hounslow Loop.
Staines-Weybridge/Byfleet & New Haw
Then link dependant routes:
Virginia Water-Reading
Woking-Poole
Woking-Alton
Guildford-Portsmouth Harbour
Basingstoke-Salisbury

Wimbledon
Traction:
444/450/455/456/458/707 (701)
Routes:
Waterloo-Guildford via Woking
Waterloo-Guildford via Cobham
Waterloo-Guildford via Epsom
Waterloo-Hampton Court
Waterloo-Dorking
Waterloo-Chessington South
Waterloo-Shepperton via Richmond and Wimbledon, and the Kingston Loop
Waterloo-Reading via Richmond and Hounslow, and the Hounslow Loop
Staines-Windsor
Virginia Water-Weybridge/Byfleet & New Haw
And link dependant routes:
Woking-Alton
Guildford-Portsmouth Harbour

Woking
Traction:
444, 450, 455, 456, 458, 707 (701 in future)
Routes:
Waterloo to Alton
Waterloo to Ascot (via Hounslow & Richmond)
Waterloo to Basingstoke
Waterloo to Chessington South
Waterloo to Hampton Court
Waterloo to Guildford (via Cobham)
Waterloo to Guildford (via Epsom)
Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour (via Haslemere) (link dependent)
Weybridge/Byfleet & New Haw - Chertsey - Virginia Water
Aldershot to Ascot
Aldershot to Guildford
Addlestone to New Haw ("Byfleet Curve")
Hounslow to Whitton ("Whitton Curve")

Weymouth;
Traction:
444, 450
Routes:
Weymouth - London Waterloo

Yeovil Junction
Traction: 158/159
Routes:
Exeter - Yeovil - Salisbury - London Waterloo
Salisbury - Bristol
Westbury - Frome - Yeovil
Yeovil - Weymouth

Spoiler: Thameslink

Thameslink

Ashford
Traction:
700
Routes:
Sevenoaks - Blackfriars via Swanley and Catford
(temporarily) Orpington - Kentish Town (via above)
Diversions via Herne Hill

Bedford
Traction:
700
Routes:
Bedford - London Blackfriars - Brighton
East Croydon - East Grinstead
Various diversions for the above

Brighton
Traction:
700
Routes:
Brighton - London Blackfriars
Link Dependant, either
Brighton - Littlehampton
Blackfriars - Bedford
OR
Blackfriars - Cambridge


Cricklewood
Traction:
700
Routes:
Bedford - London Blackfriars - Sutton Loop
Loughborough Junction - Orpington
Various diversions for the above

Gillingham
Traction:
700
Routes:
Rainham - Gillingham - London Blackfriars - Luton - Bedford
Various diversions for the above

Horsham
Traction:
700
Routes:
Horsham - London Blackfriars - Peterborough
Various diversions for the above

Luton
Traction:
700
Routes:
Bedford - Luton - London Blackfriars
Link Dependant, either
Blackfriars - Brighton
or
Blackfriars - Rainham
Blackfriars - Orpington
Various diversions for the above

Orpington
Traction:
700
Routes:
Luton - London Blackfriars - Sevenoaks (via Orpington and Swanley)
Orpington - London Victoria
Various diversions for the above

St Albans
Traction:
700
Routes:
Bedford - Luton - St Albans - London Blackfriars - Sutton Loop
Various Diversions for above

Three Bridges
Traction
700
Routes:
Bedford - London Blackfriars - Brighton
East Croydon-East Grinstead
Three bridges - Horsham including field sidings
Bedford carriage sidings and north end sidings
Wivelsfield - Lewes - Brighton

Spoiler: TPE

TPE

Cleethorpes:
Traction:
153,185
Routes:
Cleethorpes - Barton on Humber
Cleethorpes - Manc Airport
Diversions Thrybergh and Romiley

Glasgow Central:
Traction:
397/802.
Routes:
Glasgow Central to Preston.
Polmadie.
Edinburgh Waverley to Carstairs.
Edinburgh Waverley to Newcastle.
Craigentinny.

Hull:
Traction:
185
Routes:
Hull - Manchester Piccadilly

Liverpool Lime Street
Traction:
185 + 802
Routes:
Liverpool - York via Manchester Victoria, Huddersfield and Leeds
Manchester Victoria - Manchester Airport via the Orsdall Chord
Manchester Piccadilly - Stalybridge via Guide Bridge
Edge Hill - Castlefield Junction via Warrington Central currently as a diversion

Manchester Piccadilly
Traction:
All sign 185. Scarborough link adds 68/MK5, West Coast link adds 397
Routes
Liverpool - York via Manchester Victoria, Huddersfield and Leeds (Hull & Scarborough Links)
Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Airport via the Orsdall Chord (All links)
Manchester Piccadilly - Stalybridge via Guide Bridge (Hull & Scarborough Links)
York - Scarborough (Scarborough Link)
Micklefield - Hull (Hull Link)
Manchester Piccadilly - Stalybridge via Guide Bridge (Hull & Scarborough Links)
Edge Hill - Castlefield Junction via Warrington Central. (Hull & Scarborough Links)
Manchester Airport - Edinburgh Waverly via Preston (West Coast link)

Newcastle:
Traction:
185,802

Edinburgh - Newcastle (High Level Bridge and King Edward Bridge) - Leeds (via Micklefield)

Preston:
Traction:
397
Routes:
Preston to Glasgow Central.
Carstairs to Edinburgh Waverley.
Preston to Manchester Airport via Chorley and Chat Moss.
Wigan North Western to Liverpool Lime Street via St Helens Central and Earlestown.
Salford Crescent to Manchester Victoria.
Ordsall Lane to Manchester Victoria.
Longsight

Scarborough:

Sheffield:
Traction:
185
Routes:
Sheffield to Manchester Piccadilly (via Hope Valley onto via Hazel Grove and Stockport and via New Mills Central).
Manchester Piccadilly to Manchester Airport.
Sheffield to Manchester via Huddersfield
Sheffield to Cleethorpes (plus diversions avoiding Meadowhall, via Rotherham, via Kilnhurst).

York
Traction:
185, 68/MK5, 802 (currently drivers sign EITHER 68 or 802 depending on link)
Routes:
Newcastle - York (King Edwards Bridge)
Redcar Central - York (via Yarm)
Scarborough - York
York - Manchester Victoria (via Micklefield, Dewsbury, Stalybridge and Ashton under Lyne)
Manchester Victoria - Manchester Airport (via Ordsall Chord)
Manchester Victoria - Liverpool (via Chat Moss)
Stalybridge - Manchester Piccadilly (via Guide Bridge)
Newcastle (High Level Bridge)
Thirsk - Yarm (via Boroughbridge, avoiding Northallerton)
Northallerton - Thornaby (via Dinsdale, avoiding Yarm)
York - Leeds via Castleford
Leeds - Huddersfield via Normanton/Wakefield Kirkgate
Huddersfield - Manchester Victoria via Calder Valley
Manchester Victoria - Manchester Piccadilly via Salford Crescent (avoiding Ordsall Chord)

Spoiler: Transport for Wales

Transport for Wales

Cardiff Central (Mainline)
Link dependant - only some drivers sign all Traction and no drivers sign all routes
Traction:
142,143,150,153,158,170,175,67/DVT
Routes:
Cardiff - Swansea - Carmarthen - Milford Haven
Cardiff - Barry - Bridgend
Bridgend - Maesteg
Port Talbot - Swansea District Line - Llanelli
Cardiff - Shrewsbury - Crewe
Shrewsbury - Chester
Cardiff - Ebbw Vale
Newport - Cheltenham

Cardiff Central (Valleys)
Traction:
142,143,150,153
Routes:
Treherbert/Aberdare/Merthyr - Cardiff
Rhymney - Cardiff
Radyr - Cardiff - Coryton (city line)
Cardiff Queen Street - Cardiff Bay
Cardiff - Penarth/Barry Island

Carmarthen
Traction:
142,143,150,158,175
Routes:
Carmarthen - Swansea - Cardiff
Carmarthen - Milford Haven/Fishguard/Pembroke Dock
Llanelli - Llandrindod Wells
Bridgend - Barry - Cardiff
Swansea District Line

Chester
Link Dependant - 1 starter and 2 main links, most work shared but some routes only in one or two links
Traction:
150,153,158,175
Routes:
Chester - Holyhead/Llandudno
Chester - Crewe
Chester - Shrewsbury
Crewe - Shrewsbury (link dependent)
Shrewsbury - Birmingham International (direct and via Bescot (link dependent))
Crewe - Wolverhampton (link dependent)
Chester - Liverpool (link dependent)
Chester - Manchester Piccadilly via Warrington BQ (link dependent via Northwich)
Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Airport (link dependent)
Wrexham - Bidston

Crewe
Link Dependant - only one of two links signs 67s. Otherwise all work shared.
Traction:
150,153,158,175, 67/DVT
Routes:
Crewe - Manchester 4 ways (direct, via Styal, via Stoke-on-Trent, via Warrington)
Crewe - Shrewsbury - Cardiff
Crewe - Chester - Shrewsbury
Shrewsbury - Birmingham International (direct only)
Crewe - Stafford - Wolverhampton

Holyhead
Traction:
150,153,158,175, 67/DVT
Routes:
Holyhead - Chester - Crewe
Chester - Warrington BQ - Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Airport
Llandudno - Llandudno Junction - Blaneau Ffestiniog

Llandudno Junction
Traction:
150,153,158,175
Routes:
Holyhead - Chester - Crewe
Chester - Warrington BQ - Manchester Piccadilly - Manchester Airport
Llandudno - Llandudno Junction - Blaneau Ffestiniog

Machynlleth
Traction:
158
Routes:
Aberystwyth - Machynlleth - Shrewsbury
Dovey Junction - Pwllheli

Pwllheli
Traction:
158
Routes:
Aberystwyth - Machynlleth - Shrewsbury
Dovey Junction - Pwllheli

Rhymney
Traction:
142,143,150,153 (soon 769)
Routes:
Treherbert/Aberdare/Merthyr - Cardiff
Rhymney - Cardiff
Radyr - Cardiff - Coryton (city line)
Cardiff Queen Street - Cardiff Bay
Cardiff - Penarth/Barry Island

Shrewsbury
Traction:
150,153,158,175
Routes:
Shrewsbury - Birmingham International (direct and via Bescot)
Shrewsbury - Crewe - Manchester Piccadilly (direct only)
Shrewsbury - Chester - Crewe
Shrewsbury - Llanwrtyd Wells

Treherbert
Traction:
142,143,150,153
Routes:
Treherbert/Aberdare/Merthyr - Cardiff
Rhymney - Cardiff
Radyr - Cardiff - Coryton (city line)
Cardiff Queen Street - Cardiff Bay
Cardiff - Penarth/Barry Island

Spoiler: West Midlands Trains

West Midlands Trains

Birmingham New Street
Traction:
170 (link dependent),323,350
Routes:
Birmingham - Wolverhampton
Wolverhampton - Liverpool (link dependent)
Birmingham - Coventry
Coventry - Northampton (link dependent)
Birmingham - Walsall - Rugeley
Lichfield - Birmingham - Redditch/Bromsgrove Cross City Line
Wolverhampton - Shrewsbury (link dependent)

Birmingham Snow Hill
Traction:
172
Routes:
Birmingham Snow Hill - Great Malvern
Birmingham - Dorridge - Stratford
Birmingham - Shirley - Stratford
Hatton - Leamington Spa

Bletchley
Traction:
230 (link dependent),319,350
Routes:
Bletchley - London Euston
Bletchely - Northampton - Birmingham New Street
Milton Keynes - Rugby (direct via Weedon)
Bletchley - Bedford (link dependent)
Watford Junction - St Albans Abbey

Crewe
Traction:
350
Routes:
Crewe - Liverpool
Crewe - Birmingham New Street (direct and via Bescot)
Crewe - Trent Valley - Rugby - Northampton
Crewe - Stoke - Stafford
Stone - Colwich Junction
Bescot - Walsall

Coventry
Traction:
172 (link dependent), 323, 350
Routes:
Coventry - Northampton
Coventry - Birmingham - Wolverhampton
Birmingham - Walsall
Lichfield - Birmingham - Redditch/Bromsgrove Cross City Line
Nuneaton - Coventry - Leamington Spa (link dependent)

Leamington Spa
Traction:
172
Routes:
Leamington - Coventry - Nuneaton
Leamington - Birmingham Moor Street - Great Malvern
Birmingham - Stratford
Stratford - Hatton

Northampton
Traction:
350
Routes:
Northampton - London Euston
Northampton - Birmingham New Street
Rugby - Crewe via Trent Valley (link dependent)

Shrewsbury
Traction:
170
Routes:
Shrewsbury - Birmingham New Street (direct and via Bescot)
Bescot - Walsall

Wolverhampton
Traction:
170,323,350
Routes:
Birmingham - Liverpool
Birmingham - Coventry
Birmingham - Walsall - Rugeley
Lichfield - Birmingham - Redditch/Bromsgrove Cross City Line
Wolverhampton - Shrewsbury
Stafford - Rugeley

Worcester Shrub Hill
Traction:
153, 170, 172
Routes:
Worcester - Kidderminster - Birmingham Moor Street - Dorridge
Tyseley - Stratford on Avon
Birmingham New Street - University/Camp Hill - Bromsgrove - Worcester - Hereford
Smethwick - Birmingham New Street
Birmingham - Tyseley depot

I have a collection of Redhill schedule cards, so the list won't be the full route card, just the routes that were on the schedule cards:

London Victoria to Redhill
Redhill to Reigate
Purley to Caterham
Purley to Tattenham Corner
Purley to London Bridge
and possibly the Tonbridge line?

 

[Galvanize]

I have a collection of Redhill schedule cards, so the list won't be the full route card, just the routes that were on the schedule cards:

London Victoria to Redhill
Redhill to Reigate
Purley to Caterham
Purley to Tattenham Corner
Purley to London Bridge
and possibly the Tonbridge line?

The Bottom Link at Redhill that sounds like! I don’t think they go to Horsham anymore after Thameslink took over those services.

Top Link at Redhill I seem to recall sign all the way to Brighton, the West Coastway Route via Worthing to Littlehampton, the Arun Valley Line to Bognor Regis via Horsham. Not sure if they still sign GWR 165/6 traction and the North Downs route to Reading via Dorking Deepdene and Guildford.

 

[387star]

Horsham
Traction 377

Horsham to Portsmouth Harbour/Bognor. Not sure on Littlehampton
Horsham to Vic via Dorking and Gatwick and Redhill
London Bridge low level presumably

 

[mwest123]

The Bottom Link at Redhill that sounds like! I don’t think they go to Horsham anymore after Thameslink took over those services.

Top Link at Redhill I seem to recall sign all the way to Brighton, the West Coastway Route via Worthing to Littlehampton, the Arun Valley Line to Bognor Regis via Horsham. Not sure if they still sign GWR 165/6 traction and the North Downs route to Reading via Dorking Deepdene and Guildford.

Yeah! The schedule cards don't say the link as they're not the composite diagrams. I think GWR Reading drivers sign the 165/2s but I am not too sure (I believe the same for conductors as Redhill is now just drivers)

 

[craigybagel]

Last I heard Redhill drivers were still working some 165/6s to Reading. There may not be any Southern conductors there but there is a small GWR conductors depot to work some of these services as well.

I think I'll hold off posting though until I get a definite confirmation of what the routes are there, but thanks for the submission anyway!

 

[JN114]

Southern Redhill still provide 2 drivers per day (1 early shift and 1 late shift) to GWR for N Downs work. Traction is 16x, Route is Gatwick Airport to Reading Southern or Reading General.

GWR Redhill is Guards (Conductors) only, traction is 16x only, routes are as per above; plus Reading General to Basingstoke.

 

[bluesfromagun]

As far as I know, the LNER Inverness lodge turns (they involve two drivers in a hotel there each night) are the last remaining lodge turns for a driver at a franchised passenger TOC left in this country. Caledonian Sleeper stewards and guards lodge overnight (or more accurately, overday in their case), but the drivers are from GBRF and based at local Depots. Opens Access TOCs Grand Central and Hull Trains drivers do lodge in London AFAIK, as those TOCs are too small to justify the expense of opening a drivers depot in the capital, but other then that all passenger drivers are normally rostered to get back home every day, and the diagrams set out accordingly.

Three LNER drivers lodge per night, in normal timetable anyway.

Inverness: 1x NCL driver who works up to Inverness, takes set for fuel, lodges (9hr turnaround for lodging as you're deemed to be on duty throughout, rather than 12hrs any other time).

Aberdeen: 1x NCL driver who works up, takes set for fuel, lodges in hotel, works back next morning. 1x EDB driver who does the same thing. One works 1400 ex KGX and one works 1600 ex KGX, then next day one works 0752 ex ABD and other 0952 ex ABD.

 

[craigybagel]

Southern Redhill still provide 2 drivers per day (1 early shift and 1 late shift) to GWR for N Downs work. Traction is 16x, Route is Gatwick Airport to Reading Southern or Reading General.

GWR Redhill is Guards (Conductors) only, traction is 16x only, routes are as per above; plus Reading General to Basingstoke.

Thanks. Are you able to confirm the rest of the routes and traction for Redhill please?

Three LNER drivers lodge per night, in normal timetable anyway.

Inverness: 1x NCL driver who works up to Inverness, takes set for fuel, lodges (9hr turnaround for lodging as you're deemed to be on duty throughout, rather than 12hrs any other time).

Aberdeen: 1x NCL driver who works up, takes set for fuel, lodges in hotel, works back next morning. 1x EDB driver who does the same thing. One works 1400 ex KGX and one works 1600 ex KGX, then next day one works 0752 ex ABD and other 0952 ex ABD.

Interesting. I realised after I posted that I'd forgotten about the lodging at Aberdeen but I didn't know they'd managed to tighten up the inverness work to have the same driver work in and out overnight, and not have them pass to and from Aberdeen like they used to.

 

[JN114]

Thanks. Are you able to confirm the rest of the routes and traction for Redhill please?

Im GWR so idea on what SN sign unfortunately

 

[mwest123]

Im GWR so idea on what SN sign unfortunately

I put some of the routes and traction on diagrams I have on an earlier post, not sure whether it is the whole thing though. I am not a driver for Southern, just an enthusiast.