Class 710 LO

[cactustwirly]

I see from the notes on the railway centre picture of the day that these haven't gone down well with the locals of the Enfield/Cheshunt lines. The longitudinal seating is not liked and I don't blame them.

If GWML commuters have to put up with longitudinal seats then so can the LO commuters, especially when the fares are cheaper than TfL Rail!

 

[samuelmorris]

If GWML commuters have to put up with longitudinal seats then so can the LO commuters, especially when the fares are cheaper than TfL Rail!

Surely that's because they aren't TfL Rail fares, they're GWR fares. TfL/LO would otherwise use the same TfL fare structure.

 

[cactustwirly]

Surely that's because they aren't TfL Rail fares, they're GWR fares. TfL/LO would otherwise use the same TfL fare structure.

Idk, I thought fares from Langley and Taplow etc were set by TfL Rail now, since they provide the vast majority of services. Anyway TfL Rail fares outside zones 1-6 are quite expensive, especially with the new draconian peak restrictions when using contactless.

But when you're only paying £2 for a much shorter journey, I don't see how the LO passengers can complain.

 

[thealm]

Have any of the 5 car units been delivered?

 

[hwl]

Have any of the 5 car units been delivered?

Those were meant to be coming last so I don't think so.

 

[59CosG95]

From the 317 withdrawal thread...
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-317-withdrawals.179712/page-2#post-4513414

710123 & 710129 have apparently now entered service.

 

[theking]

710's off the DC while the current situation/timetable is ongoing will be back to 5 car 378

 

[87015]

From the 317 withdrawal thread...
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-317-withdrawals.179712/page-2#post-4513414

710123 & 710129 have apparently now entered service.

123/129 available but petty sure haven't worked passenger (limited timetable means not really needed)
119/120 passenger debut this morning (but already been swapped out so no desperate leaps anyone)

 

[20atthemagnet]

123/129 available but petty sure haven't worked passenger (limited timetable means not really needed)
119/120 passenger debut this morning (but already been swapped out so no desperate leaps anyone)

123/129 have been in passenger service several times already. Were brought to Chingford on the 27th of March, but ended up back at Ilford to fix a small problem.

 

[theking]

They're trying to get some sort of 710 training back up and running for the WA lines.

 

[59CosG95]

20311 & 20314, both hired to ROG from HNRC, dragged the first 5-car unit, 710276, south from Old Dalby to Willesden today.

 

[OvergroundMatt]

Class 710 in the wild, approaching Clapton junction on Sunday 12 April.

 

[87015]

NLL testing on Tuesday, https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/F31712/2020-05-05/detailed

 

[59CosG95]

710272 was moved from Worksop to Willesden on the 14th of May. 710125 was moved from Worksop to Willesden on the 15th, and 710111 is being moved down to Willesden today (on the 4th of June) as 5Q72 from Old Dalby.
(Both Worksop - Willesden moves were also 5Q72)
On May 29th, 57305 & 57310 (top & tailed) moved 710118 from Derby Litchurch Ln to Worksop.

 

[VauxhallandI]

710272 was moved from Worksop to Willesden on the 14th of May. 710125 was moved from Worksop to Willesden on the 15th, and 710111 is being moved down to Willesden today (on the 4th of June) as 5Q72 from Old Dalby.
(Both Worksop - Willesden moves were also 5Q72)
On May 29th, 57305 & 57310 (top & tailed) moved 710118 from Derby Litchurch Ln to Worksop.

Hi - does this mean the introduction of the new units has started again?

 

[87015]

Todays Anglia runners and riders show as 102/107/108/117/119/120/121/124 in traffic.

 

[bluegoblin7]

I had my first solo West Anglia 710 yesterday evening - 710121. Has this happened prior to this on the West Anglia?

 

[59CosG95]

June 8th saw 710130 moved south to Willesden, and yesterday (June 16th) saw 710116 moved south.

 

[sharpley]

A 5 car unit was moved to Old Dalby on Monday that didn't have a number or overground roundel on it (that I could see). Got a photo of it on its approach into Melton Mowbray

 

[sharpley]

And another 5 car unit delivered to Old Dalby just now. This had no markings either (number or roundel). The unit number was shown on pieces of paper on the windows but forgot to make a note of it. Top and tailed by 37800 and 57312

 

[greatkingrat]

First 710 in passenger service on the NLL today, although it wasn't planned! There was a faulty train in the bay at Gospel Oak and another stuck at the signal outside so it was sent to Hampstead Heath where it detrained and ran empty to Willesden.

 

[Val3ntine]

What plans are there for the 5 car units? Will they run alongside the 378’s on the NLL clapham/richmond - Stratford route?

 

[Covshire1]

A 5 car unit was moved to Old Dalby on Monday that didn't have a number or overground roundel on it (that I could see). Got a photo of it on its approach into Melton Mowbray
View attachment 79633

710274

 

[Covshire1]

And another 5 car unit delivered to Old Dalby just now. This had no markings either (number or roundel). The unit number was shown on pieces of paper on the windows but forgot to make a note of it. Top and tailed by 37800 and 57312

710275

 

[hwl]

What plans are there for the 5 car units? Will they run alongside the 378’s on the NLL clapham/richmond - Stratford route?

Correct

 

[swt_passenger]

What plans are there for the 5 car units? Will they run alongside the 378’s on the NLL clapham/richmond - Stratford route?

The key point is that they wanted extra units for planned service increases on the ELL/SLL, and these need front escape doors for the Thames Tunnel section. It was easier to order a few 5 car 710s without end doors and do an internal shuffle.

 

[BJames]

Just wanted to check for any recent updates - how many 710 diagrams are now on the West Anglia STP Monday-Friday schedule at the moment? And any news or developments regarding driver training?

 

[Railperf]

Just wanted to check for any recent updates - how many 710 diagrams are now on the West Anglia STP Monday-Friday schedule at the moment? And any news or developments regarding driver training?

No idea on exact numbers but at least three or four pairs seem to be out - maybe more. I was on a pair heading to Chingford - with another pair entering Liverpool Street from Chestnut. And another pair also sitting in the station.

 

[JonathanH]

No idea on exact numbers but at least three or four pairs seem to be out - maybe more. I was on a pair heading to Chingford - with another pair entering Liverpool Street from Chestnut. And another pair also sitting in the station.

A posting on 'ukmodernemu' suggests there were four pairs of 710s out off-peak yesterday with another pair stabled at Chingford.

Arriva Rail London (London Overground) -
Class 315 unless otherwise stated & times from LST.

1015 (CHN) - 831/822
1018 (CFD) - 833/859
1030 (EFT) - 710120/119
1033 (CFD) - 710107/117
1045 (CHN) - 825/802
1048 (CFD) - 806/815
1100 (EFT) - 710121/108
1103 (CFD) - 710129/123
1115 (CHN) - 827/810
1118 (CFD) - 801/803
1130 (EFT) - 833/859
1133 (CFD) - 805/812
1145 (CHN) - 710107/117
1148 (CFD) - 831/822
1200 (EFT) - 806/815
1203 (CFD) - 710120/119

The person posting this information noted that the cleaners maintain a paper list of units in service which is visible at one of the platform ends.

 

[Railperf]

A posting on 'ukmodernemu' suggests there were four pairs of 710s out off-peak yesterday with another pair stabled at Chingford.



The person posting this information noted that the cleaners maintain a paper list of units in service which is visible at one of the platform ends.

I didn't note any stabled at Chingford - but i wasn't looking out for any.