RomeoCharlie71
Established Member
Didn't know it was here - I thought it was only 36418/20/2/3.Is 36419 staying?
36418 replaced something else at Dunfermline, can't remember what though.
Didn't know it was here - I thought it was only 36418/20/2/3.Is 36419 staying?
Further to this there will be changes on 3rd August and 10th August, details of which haven't been announced as yet.Service Change Consultation for Monday 28th September
Over the last few months, we’ve made several changes to our services in line with Government guidance and in reaction to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Our services are currently still running special timetables, and we plan to make further changes to these during August as we ease further out of lockdown, and more of our passengers wish to travel.
Going forward, we also want to prepare for the “new normal” and with that in mind, we’ve reviewed our network of services across Fife, Perth & Kinross, Dundee & Angus and put together some proposed service changes that we'd like to share with you. We're consulting with you, along with local authorities and staff and we're hoping to introduce these changes from Monday 28th September 2020.
Please note that there will be more changes to our services between now and 28th September, in line with Government guidelines, however we are currently only seeking feedback on the proposals below.
If you have feedback on our below proposals (due to take effect from Monday 28th September), simply complete the form at the bottom of this page and your comments will be considered before we decide and announce any confirmed changes.
A full summary of our proposed changes can be found below, along with a link to the proposed timetables (just click on the header to view).
Fife Area
Service 4: Dunfermline – Oakley – Blairhall
We're looking to make some minor timetable changes only.
Service 6: Crombie – Charlestown – Limekilns – Dunfermline
We're proposing to withdraw this service as it was under-performing prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, and despite interventions to make the service more attractive, it remains unpopular. We will however continue to run the morning and afternoon school journeys.
Service 8/8A: Dunfermline – Culross / Alloa
This service was extended to Falkirk in partnership with Fife Council and relied on passenger numbers increasing each year.
Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, passenger numbers are expected to stay low for some time, making this extension no longer viable.
We're proposing to re-route service 8A to Alloa to also serve Culross but will no longer service Clackmannan Main Street, staying on Alloa Road.
Service 19: Rosyth – Dunfermline – Halbeath P&R – Cowdenbeath – Ballingry
We're proposing to revise this service to run up to every 15 minutes during the day. The route would also change so the service runs the same route between Rosyth and Ballingry during the day serving Fife Leisure Park and Hill of Beath.
Amazon journeys would be renumbered to 19A and Rosyth Dockyard journeys renumbered to 19D.
Service 23: St Andrews – Cupar – Auchtermuchty – Kinross – Dollar – Stirling
We're proposing to withdraw this service as it was under-performing prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, and increasing costs mean that this service operates at a significant loss, resulting in us no longer being able to commercially run the service
Service 747: Halbeath Park and Ride - Ferrytoll Park and Ride - Edinburgh Airport
We're looking to revise this service to run up to every 20 minutes.
Service 92: David Russell Apartments – North Street
We're proposing to withdrawn this service which operates during St Andrews University term time only. It has seen decreasing numbers of passengers over the years and we are no longer able to run the service commercially.
Service X24/X26: St Andrews/Dundee – Glenrothes – Halbeath P&R – Dunfermline – Kincardine – Glasgow
We're looking to revise these timetables with service X24 no longer serving Glasgow Airport.
Perth & Kinross Area
Service 7/A/7B: Scone P&R – City Centre – Broxden – Hillend
We're looking to change the frequency of this service to run up to every 15 minutes.
Service 9: North Muirton – City Centre – Aviva
We're proposing some minor timetable changes to accommodate the changes to service 7.
Service 56: Perth – Bridge of Earn – Milnathort – Kinross
We're proposing to remove the day time commercial journeys due to low passenger numbers on this route.
The morning and afternoon college journeys and afternoon tendered journeys will not be affected.
Dundee & Angus Area
Service 73: Arbroath – Carnoustie – Monifieth – Dundee – Ninewells
We're looking to change the frequency of this service to run up to every 15 minutes from Monifieth to Ninewells.
As far as I'm led to believe, yes, re 3rd AugustIsn't the 3rd Aug to mostly restore to a near full network. While 10th will see changes to council services in Fife and Angus.
So Fife Council has pulled the plug on this one? What else are they getting rid of?Service change proposal from 28th September announced: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/east-scotland/service-change-consultation
Service 8/8A: Dunfermline – Culross / Alloa
This service was extended to Falkirk in partnership with Fife Council and relied on passenger numbers increasing each year.
Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, passenger numbers are expected to stay low for some time, making this extension no longer viable.
Further to this there will be changes on 3rd August and 10th August, details of which haven't been announced as yet.
As far as I'm led to believe, yes, re 3rd August
The Angus changes are commercial AFAIK
And so, the withdrawals begin!
So Fife Council has pulled the plug on this one? What else are they getting rid of?
for Perth services anyway.
I understand the current agreement with Transport Scotland/ScotGov is meant to be on the basis of a return to normal pre-Covid service levels. Without any additional support after the current agreement runs out next month, I’d expect to see a raft of cuts/withdrawals from all operators. No business can continue to provide 100% service when revenue levels may only be around 50-60%.Seems pointless to restore the full service just to change them again.
I suspect the proposed cuts to the Strathtay 73 will have protected some deadwood (in the short term anyway), as there will be a hefty reduction in operating costs with a PVR drop of 4 and potentially no conductors (at the expense of increased running/layover times).I understand the current agreement with Transport Scotland/ScotGov is meant to be on the basis of a return to normal pre-Covid service levels. Without any additional support after the current agreement runs out next month, I’d expect to see a raft of cuts/withdrawals from all operators. No business can continue to provide 100% service when revenue levels may only be around 50-60%.
I suspect the proposed cuts to the Strathtay 73 will have protected some deadwood (in the short term anyway), as there will be a hefty reduction in operating costs with a PVR drop of 4 and potentially no conductors (at the expense of increased running/layover times).
Source, please! Link and quotation, as required by forum rules. ThanksStagecoach East Scotland have announced more service increases from 3rd August...
Unfortunately, they do not have, according to replies on Facebook, the resources to restart the 23 from St Andrews to Stirling.
The 8 service isn't going to Falkirk.
The X24 isn't going to Glasgow Airport.
The 7 in Perth is running every 15 minutes.
The 73 is doing the same.
In fact, everything that they were consulting on doing in September will be applied from the 3rd of August by the looks of it...
Not exactly, No6 is still running while the No19s are still every 10mins, No7 in perth is still two routes, No8 are still doing Culross..In fact, everything that they were consulting on doing in September will be applied from the 3rd of August by the looks of it...
No it's not, and will still not operate from 3 August, and is proposed to be permanently withdrawn from 28 September
29/07
11189 Aberhill to Blairgowrie
15630/1/2/5 Arbroath to Aberhill
3 or 4 more are to follow in the next few daysBlairgowrie has hit the jackpot getting a 19 plate E400MMC. Surprised something that new is getting transferred out already.
3 or 4 more are to follow in the next few days
Aberhill will be Scania central by the 10th August
10002 to 10007 will be moving on presumably... or at least 5 of those will be!