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Really?I voted tory a year ago.
Go sit in the naughty corner for the next 15 minutes.
Really?I voted tory a year ago.
Let's hope some of those Tory backbenchers kick up a fuss as soon as parliament is sitting againm
All the alternatives were objectively worse.Really?
Go sit in the naughty corner for the next 15 minutes.
All the alternatives were objectively worse.
Has there ever been an election with a worse set of parties? Certainly not in my lifetime (admittedly less than two decades)!All the alternatives were objectively worse.
It doesn't seem to be significant news at the moment, which would have to change to see any ramifications for us and others.I see the WHO have actually said that this mutation is no cause for alarm. Wonder what next move is now for all these countries including our own?
Accuse the WHO of being the Tory party's puppet.I see the WHO have actually said that this mutation is no cause for alarm. Wonder what next move is now for all these countries including our own?
Apologise, admit that they were wrong, and compensate Britain for the economic damage done due the Dover being closed etc.I see the WHO have actually said that this mutation is no cause for alarm. Wonder what next move is now for all these countries including our own?
I'm already seeing the 'herd immunity can't work due to mutations'.I see the WHO have actually said that this mutation is no cause for alarm. Wonder what next move is now for all these countries including our own?
I'm already seeing the 'herd immunity can't work due to mutations'.
Did anyone go into the 2019 election voting for anything other than “least worst” option?
I spoiled my ballot given there was no options other than the two big dinosaurs and pro-EU nutjobs
I do worry about the rhetoric coming out of the WHO.
‘Herd immunity’, also known as ‘population immunity’, is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached.
Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it.
I'm starting to think Trump had the right idea about the WHO (though probably not for quite the same reasons...)
That's downright false...They've now apparently unilaterally decided to redefine 'herd immunity' as a concept that only applies to vaccinations. I'm not sure how the human race survived before vaccinations, but here we are.
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19
I'm starting to think Trump had the right idea about the WHO (though probably not for quite the same reasons...)
That's downright false...
With Eurostar shutdown for outbound trains, I've been wondering if this has affected railfreight. I don't know how this normally operates - is there some switch between French & UK locos at some point? It would seem an easy matter to isolate drivers in locos to ensure freight keeps running. Hopefully this would encourage goods shippers on the continent to move to the more reliable rail freight and away from unreliable and heavily polluting HGVs.
It depends where the mutations are. If the mutations are in locations that are involved in antigen response, then it's possible that immunity could be reduced. In the context of COVID, the various vaccines are intended to produce an immune response to the spike protein, which is where some of the mutations in this variant are located. However, it's likely that the immune system recognises various parts of the spike, to complete "antigen escape" is unlikely at present.Even without going into the world of academic research, given there have been nearly 13,000 variants so far, there should be many cases of reinfection if this is the case. There isn't - literally just a handful.
They didn’t survive very well.I'm not sure how the human race survived before vaccinations, but here we are.
They didn’t survive very well.
They didn’t survive very well.
I did discover thanks to some Facebook expert that everyone who received the smallpox vaccine in 1796 went on to later die. Indeed, none of them are alive today.
Makes you think...
They managed for hundreds of thousands of years. If we were that weak a species we wouldn't have made it to Edward Jenner's time!They didn’t survive very well.
Well, immunisations first started in the 18th/19th centuries, which conincides with the start of the rapid growth in global population following industrialisation.
So mass vaccinations are *part* (but not all of) the reason why the global population has exploded over the last ~200 years, as well as many other quality of life and health factors.
A news item on Sky last night said that for some reason, only the UK had the facilty to pick up the new virus, due to way we test ? If so, and it 'started' in Kent. bearing in mind the stark increase in the EU, it was brought over here and spread, the EU sort of shutting the door after horse has bolted !It may well explain some of the recent growth in places like Italy and Germany , - but maybe not picked up by their health monitors.?