No you can’t.
Arriva tried that when they took over Northern with some 158’s and within a short space of time removed them from the windows due to the sheer amount of complaints from people who couldn’t see properly out of the window. They’re awful.
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5x Class 153 conversion to bike and baggage vans for Scotrail
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Arriva tried that when they took over Northern with some 158’s and within a short space of time removed them from the windows due to the sheer amount of complaints from people who couldn’t see properly out of the window. They’re awful.
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py_megapixel
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Out of interest, what was on the vinyls? Just part of the blue swoosh on the livery?
The trade name is 'Contravision', and I concur with those saying it's utterly hateful.
scotraildriver
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I had the misfortune to travel on this monstrosity back in the day, it was pitch dark inside!
61653 HTAFC
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On the plus side, being on that is the only place you don't have to look at it from!
It was Arriva’s first summer and they were pictograms of their ‘we are……’ summer campaign.
I agree it's not perfectly transparent, but I've definitely been on board buses where it was barely noticeable. It tends to work best with light neutral colours.
Bletchleyite
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What it states is "advertising is more important than the passenger", and any bus company that thinks that deserves to fail.
It's one step worse than the practice of advertising cars on the side/back of buses.
I remember when it appeared on Tomorrow’s World as a new invention back in 1986. I only remember as it was the first TV Programme I ever recorded on our first ever family VHS recorder, and thus I watched it several times!
Agreed - Personally I don’t have a problem with it at all. I’ve been on vehicles where I’ve not realised it has been applied.
Nottingham59
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what's wrong with advertising cars on the back of buses? Seems the perfect place to reach committed car drivers....
hexagon789
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Are they all the same scheme? I couldn't if they were all to have a slightly different variation to each or if I'm thinking of TfW Mk4 DVTs
Anonymous10
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your thinking of the tfw dvts which are getting charity liveries might be worth checking out the tfw livery thread and the tfw mk 4 thread
Speed43125
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I was under the impression they'd be in different liveries as well actually....
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There were six different livery designs produced (I think I remember posting them on this thread when they first emerged) but the plan was always that they’d be outshopped in one chosen livery out of the six.
Speed43125
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Ahhh, that makes sense then, thanks!
hexagon789
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Thanks, I've seen those
Not just me then!
That'll be it then.
Putting them on the class of trains which operate the S&C was a particular act of genius! It seemed to come as a surprise to Northern that people would complain about not being able to see out properly on a route which is advertised for its views. The S&C trust complained a lot too, and Northern eventually backed down and removed the bits over the windows.
It was like looking out through a fog at the best of times, and even more noticeable when it rained (which it does a lot on the S&C) as the droplets got trapped in the holes in the vinyls and made it even more difficult to see out.
Andy Pacer
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Can anyone just confirm which 5 153s have been converted please, I dont fancy my chances searching through so many pages!
According the Wikipedia 153305, 153370, 153373, 153377, 153380
Andy Pacer
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Excellent thanks for that. I had a feeling they were the ex GWRs that went to Northern for a while but wasnt certain.
All three 153s, attached to a 156 are having an awayday to Oban today.
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Try these
First Run of the ScotRail Class 153 to Oban
Abellio ScotRail Class 153, 153380 on the rear with Class 156, 156458 leading shortly after departing Crianlarich working 3T91 Oban - Eastfield on the 13th of June 2021. This was the first visit of the ScotRail Class 153 to the West Highlands with this being used as a gauging run Video -...
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Think he meant today’s workingTry these
First Run of the ScotRail Class 153 to Oban
Abellio ScotRail Class 153, 153380 on the rear with Class 156, 156458 leading shortly after departing Crianlarich working 3T91 Oban - Eastfield on the 13th of June 2021. This was the first visit of the ScotRail Class 153 to the West Highlands with this being used as a gauging run Video -...
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fgwrich
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I hadn’t realised they had sent 3 dogboxes out on today’s run, which ones are they?
I’m also surprised they haven’t re-trimmed the seats in the standard Saltire pattern, as they are the same Richmonds fitted to the Corkerhill fleet.
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