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Brilliantly concise and easy to understand, and a blander colour scheme does help avoid distraction when reading or looking at it.
Have you thought about turning on Night Shift to help with the white? It helps to reduce eye strain quite a lot. I even keep it on in the day. You may wish to consider the same.Certainly, one of my most immediate reactions to tapping the link provided was that it was an assault on the senses. I generally use Dark Mode, and that bright white background with a long list of .pdf links was blinding! No spaces between each link was not appreciated either, that made it more frustrating to browse through.
Have you thought about turning on Night Shift to help with the white? It helps to reduce eye strain quite a lot. I even keep it on in the day. You may wish to consider the same.
Dark mode is good, but all the text is still white and blinding whilst everything else is just black, dark and boring.
I know the feeling, Dark mode does have its benefits although is not perfect. Whites are still very bright even when everything else on screen has been darkened. Light mode with Night Shift on is my preference as you get to enjoy full colour without the eye strain that comes with it.I use Dark Mode as default, but it doesn't work on a lot of things. This forum for example. Night Shift, I'm not familiar with that if I'm honest!
Hello and thanks to everyone who has commented so far. As the person responsible for this new venture, albeit under the umbrella of my sponsor Fabrik Communications, all and anything you see can be accredited/discredited to me, good or bad. I have been following the comments all week but have refrained from commenting until now in order to see how varied the feedback would be. ...
Night Light on my Android phone - thanks for the tip BTW, I hadn't discovered it.I am not sure where it is off the top of my head on Android but think you can find by swiping down from the top of the screen? I think it is called blue light filter.
I know the feeling, Dark mode does have its benefits although is not perfect. Whites are still very bright even when everything else on screen has been darkened. Light mode with Night Shift on is my preference as you get to enjoy full colour without the eye strain that comes with it.
Night Shift is a useful feature which reduces the amount blue and white light your screen emits at night. You will definitely squint and strain your eyes less. Usually it is best to set a timer for it to come on in evening and turn off at dawn. You can access Night Shift on an iPhone by swiping up and then pressing and holding the brightness slider. I am not sure where it is off the top of my head on Android but think you can find by swiping down from the top of the screen? I think it is called blue light filter.
It is built into Windows 10 too - click the button next to the click and choose Night Light. You can change how yellow it makes the screen to your preference. Perfect for working late on the laptop!
Night Light on my Android phone - thanks for the tip BTW, I hadn't discovered it.
As the person responsible for this new venture...
one thing that appears to be agitating some commentators is the renumbering of some tables. This is deliberate - over the years many tables have failed to be renumbered or reconstructed to take account of changed service patterns, so I have tried to address that where possible and I make no apologies for doing so, although I do accept this is subjective, but there is no reason why a table number or construct has to remain the same for eternity.
If it existed in printed form, I might buy one once services have settled down post-pandemic and I'm back to normal levels of moving around.
Feel it is important that for all stretches of line where there is a significant timetable overlap, one of the tables (at least) should be a "line of route" table showing all services, with a note in the other table(s) referring the user to that one (in this case it would be "See table 100 for full details of all trains between Preston and Glasgow/Edinburgh"). If this would make for a table that is too unwieldy (Clapham Junction to either Waterloo or Victoria being an obvious example) then a note such as "for further trains between x and y see tables a, b and c"
I agree about the lack of connectional detail in modern tables; as far as I can see the new GBRT adds many connecting trains in ordinary type if only in summary form, e.g. Kirkby to Liverpool Central in table 101, but it nowhere uses the old system of inserting connections in italics.
Agreed, sometimes it seems easier to reference timetable info from two or three decades ago than just two or three weeks or months ago.I would certainly purchase a printed version as this is the only practical way of keeping an historical record of the complete timetable.
Agreed, sometimes it seems easier to reference timetable info from two or three decades ago than just two or three weeks or months ago.
P.S. Wonder how much a complete version of this new national timetable would cost if printed out on a bespoke basis?
Thankyou, and well spotted. Now fixed along with other items in 135 and various other tables - 65, 82, 84, 102, 116, 185 and 186A small error on table 135:
In the very first column, the path for the 23:45 Paddington-Penzance is the FO departure and not the Monday to Thursday departure from Paddington.
But well done to all concerned on an excellent resource.
remember the 1st edition in May 1974
The BR Regions produced their own regional timetables (and before that the individual companies did) or if you wanted a national picture there was Bradshaws Guide though I think there was a gap between Bradshaw ceasing publication and the GBTT starting to be produced.What sort of timetables did we have before then?
The regional TTs were in a standard format (not type face though, until the 24h clock and large format came in in 1965*) and had a lot of overlap.The BR Regions produced their own regional timetables (and before that the individual companies did) or if you wanted a national picture there was Bradshaws Guide though I think there was a gap between Bradshaw ceasing publication and the GBTT starting to be produced.
I thought this at first, but if you scroll to the last page, the Stourbridge Town branch timetable is down there.Just noticed that Stourbridge Town is in the station index, where it's said to be in table 073, but it's not in the table itself.
I see it now, thanks for pointing this out, it appears as table 073A; but 073A is not in the index of tables.I thought this at first, but if you scroll to the last page, the Stourbridge Town branch timetable is down there.
I'd second a map and more specifically the return of the old maps from the GBTT era!! They were simple and easy to use.I might have missed it but I could not find a map
I was going back and forth in the list to find the routes I wanted to look at and with the numbers being different it made it harder to spot the line I wanted
The station Index is ok but you still look at a few numbers to find what you want - a map would cut down the searching
Peter
Sorry, 73a was an afterthought after I realised I had completely forgotton about the shuttle. It will appear in the index properly at some pointI see it now, thanks for pointing this out, it appears as table 073A; but 073A is not in the index of tables.
Maps are no 2 on the priority list after an enhanced indexI might have missed it but I could not find a map
I was going back and forth in the list to find the routes I wanted to look at and with the numbers being different it made it harder to spot the line I wanted
The station Index is ok but you still look at a few numbers to find what you want - a map would cut down the searching
Peter
Unfortunately, at the time of download, thats what the system says and only manual editing after that will address these kind of things. With very limited time available, checking every reservation symbol was not a priority nor a possibility considering this is for evaluation at this stage. When train life returns to normal these things will resolve themselves to the extent that they can, along with more flexible resources and time to the process.I really like this, lovely to see everything in one place. However one little niggle is that on the Reading -Guildford-Gatwick line, trains are shown as Reservations Compulsory when on the GWR website they say you should make a reservation. Indeed the GWR help desk have told me they are not compulsory, just buy a ticket and get on the train.
Lawrie
yes of course, nothing else new yet though.As an aside - if you happen to update any more tables than the ones you've listed already, could you possibly post a notification here please?