NI Thumpers

[102 fan]

All very valid, but it doesn't explain how a non working steam crane arrived at the DCDR one day. The same argument that is given for the non preservation of a Thumper was convienently not used in its acquisition.

 

[142094]

Any updates on when they are likely to be replaced? I've got an idea of going over at the end of June but will this be too late?

 

[GM078]

All very valid, but it doesn't explain how a non working steam crane arrived at the DCDR one day. The same argument that is given for the non preservation of a Thumper was convienently not used in its acquisition.

Good point. I don't know, I'm a non-working member of DCDR, though I wasn't a member back then anyway. It seems though in its early days (like many preservation groups) it took whatever was on offer. Can't imagine them acquiring it these days though!

 

[Ivo]

It'll probably be too late for the 80 but I can't say for certain about the 450s. Not so long ago, June 24th was suggested; given NI don't run six-car units during the peaks over summer, that may well be accurate...

Don't take this as canon or definite though.

 

[4SRKT]

You'll be fine in June as all the 450s will still be operating (those that aren't knackered that is). The 80 is rumoured to be withdrawn as Ivo says on 24th June, when the summer diagrams come into force, so if you can I'd get there before that.

 

[142094]

Might have to rearrange plans then. What's the youth hostel in Belfast like? I'll probably have to sleep overnight there to get the morning sailing to Stranraer.

 

[Lad Brookes]

Might have to rearrange plans then. What's the youth hostel in Belfast like? I'll probably have to sleep overnight there to get the morning sailing to Stranraer.

If it's the one in Donegall Rd, opposite the Royal, then it's not bad at all- or at least it wasn't when I used to stay there regularly until c.2007.

 

[K9-70]

A scene never to be seen again at Lisburn.

L to R.
Platform 1. 82 Suburban livery
Platform 2. 96 Intercity livery
Platform 3. 84 Silver & Red livery

K9-70

 

[Ivo]

[gets all misty-eyed]

I cannot tell you how hapy I am that I managed that one-off run on Wednesday last week before I left NI... £7.90 very well spent.

 

[102 fan]

[gets all misty-eyed]

I cannot tell you how hapy I am that I managed that one-off run on Wednesday last week before I left NI... £7.90 very well spent.

And they tell me there's no support for a thumper.....
It's no wonder I left the 2 societies here :cry:

 

[4SRKT]

Breaking news is that 94 had a serious failure yesterday (blown turbocharger). This doesn't look great folks. 90 won't be let out on its own as it also fails pretty frequently.

Hopefully it can be sorted out but OTOH NIR may just shorten the Newry 6-car set early to free up a C3K. The first C4K can't be far off entering service either.

A scene never to be seen again at Lisburn.

L to R.
Platform 1. 82 Suburban livery
Platform 2. 96 Intercity livery
Platform 3. 84 Silver & Red livery

K9-70

More never to be seen again stuff at Lisburn in this album:

http://www.railforums.co.uk/album.php?albumid=188

 

[K9-70]

Breaking news is that 94 had a serious failure yesterday (blown turbocharger). This doesn't look great folks. 90 won't be let out on its own as it also fails pretty frequently.

Hopefully it can be sorted out but OTOH NIR may just shorten the Newry 6-car set early to free up a C3K. The first C4K can't be far off entering service either.



More never to be seen again stuff at Lisburn in this album:

http://www.railforums.co.uk/album.php?albumid=188

I've a ton of stuff waiting to be rescanned and maybe uploaded to Fotopic if/when it ever comes back online again.

Photo 6 the driving trailer number is 735.
735 was the only trailer that had a repair patch and strange projection on the roof above the driving cab.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
Hi 4SRKT,
A friend on the Railcar Yahoo group has identified the 80 Class railcar set at Lisburn on which you travelled on from Coleraine on the 08-03-1991.

http://www.railforums.co.uk/album.php?albumid=188&pictureid=983
735, 772, 91 at Lisburn 08-03-1991

K9-70

 

[Ivo]

Doesn't sound good

The 80 was the top highlight of my trip. It truly felt like a trip down memory lane, to better days. Just four more weeks old girl, that's all we ask... (Ideally more but let's not push her.)

 

[4SRKT]

Doesn't sound good

The 80 was the top highlight of my trip. It truly felt like a trip down memory lane, to better days. Just four more weeks old girl, that's all we ask... (Ideally more but let's not push her.)

As I warned you last week, you would have regretted it for ever if you caught that earlier boat and flagged the 80 class opportunity. Imagine how you'd feel if you'd chosen the Glasgow Underground over that beast!

I'll be getting regular gen on the situation which I'll keep posting here. There will be people hoping for a last go (or a first go before it's too late......) so it'll be a vital service.

 

[102 fan]

I would spend any amount of money to recreate this pic

http://www.railforums.co.uk/album.php?albumid=188&pictureid=981

 

[4SRKT]

I would spend any amount of money to recreate this pic

http://www.railforums.co.uk/album.php?albumid=188&pictureid=981

It's an absolute beast of a pic isn't it? My pride and joy. I couldn't believe what happened that day during what I expected to be a mudane 25 minute connection between the 14:40 Derry > Belfast and 17:00 Belfast > Dublin. I found it about a year ago in an envelope with a couple of hundred other shots from that era. Happy days!

Although 101's last passenger turn was the following day, later in the year (November) I got haulage off it for about 3/4 mile when no 4 on an RPSI stock movement from Whitehead to Central failed between Knockmore and Lisburn. Eventually 101 was despatched from Central Services to rescue us, by this time freezing almost to death in the unheated stock. The train was caped at Lisburn and we caught an 80 class on the Sunday morning Derry > Belfast (11:05 off Derry IIRR) back to Botanic, which had itself been delayed by no 4's shenanigans.

 

[K9-70]

Although 101's last passenger turn was the following day, later in the year (November) I got haulage off it for about 3/4 mile when no 4 on an RPSI stock movement from Whitehead to Central failed between Knockmore and Lisburn. Eventually 101 was despatched from Central Services to rescue us, by this time freezing almost to death in the unheated stock. The train was caped at Lisburn and we caught an 80 class on the Sunday morning Derry > Belfast (11:05 off Derry IIRR) back to Botanic, which had itself been delayed by no 4's shenanigans.

Are you sure ?
UTA 4 was working the RPSI Special to Moira Station 09-1990, when it failed on the Knockmore Bank between Knockmore and Lisburn.
I think Noel Playfair was the fireman on No.4 and he was taken by car? to CSD to collect 101 and return to Lisburn to aid No.4 into Lisburn Station were the passengers detrained and were taken to Moira Station on a 6car 80 set No's 81 & 90.

101 & failed No.4 plus coaches then ran light to CSD.
Thumbnail attached shows 101 & failed No.4 plus train at Platform 1 with 90 waiting to take the passengers to Moira. I think the 6car 80 set ran wrong road to Moira Station.

K9-70

 

[4SRKT]

I'm certain of it. It wasn't a special: I was one of the only people on board (boarded at York Road), and the destination was Central. We arrived on platform 3 at Lisburn, not 1. I can't remember if it was a stock movement or a test train of some sort, but, it was certainly kaput! It also definitely wasn't in September 1990, because I didn't live in Northern Ireland at that time.

 

[Drimnagh Road]

4SRKT, I am shocked. There is a very important loco class you have left out on your signature.

Hint, the last time you travelled behind one was almost exactly a year ago.

 

[K9-70]

Hi 4SRKT,
I emailed a friend for more details about the failed RPSI steam train at Knockmore 09-1990.
It appears I got my date on the film incorrect. The correct date is 03-11-1990.

Another mistake I made was in naming Noel Playfair as fireman on No.4. This was incorrect.
The NIR crew working No.4 that day are, Billy McCaughley Jackie Kitchen and Gary Moore.

The attached photo made on the correct date, 03-11-1990 shows;

Hunslet 101, RPSI No.4 & coaches are definitley at Platform No1 as Platform 3 would have
been too short for the complete train to fit in without blocking the Knockmore branch line.
The starter signal is mounted on the footbridge.

NIR 81 & 90 waiting at Platform 2 to take the RPSI passengers to Moira.

NIR 98 "GLENOE" leaving Platform 3 with a train from Londonderry/Coleraine to Central

K9-70

 

[Drimnagh Road]

Very nice and rear photos K9-70, thanks for sharing.

 

[4SRKT]

Hi 4SRKT,
I emailed a friend for more details about the failed RPSI steam train at Knockmore 09-1990.
It appears I got my date on the film incorrect. The correct date is 03-11-1990.

Another mistake I made was in naming Noel Playfair as fireman on No.4. This was incorrect.
The NIR crew working No.4 that day are, Billy McCaughley Jackie Kitchen and Gary Moore.

The attached photo made on the correct date, 03-11-1990 shows;

Hunslet 101, RPSI No.4 & coaches are definitley at Platform No1 as Platform 3 would have
been too short for the complete train to fit in without blocking the Knockmore branch line.
The starter signal is mounted on the footbridge.

NIR 81 & 90 waiting at Platform 2 to take the RPSI passengers to Moira.

NIR 98 "GLENOE" leaving Platform 3 with a train from Londonderry/Coleraine to Central

K9-70

I'm sure you're right, but the trip I was on was definitely not open to the public. I was on it with a handful of RPSI volunteers (although not a volunteer myself I have been a lifelong friend of a number of RPSI folk), and I was living in Belfast at the time. In November 1990 I was living in halls of residence at Jordanstown.

It was definitely November 1991. I'm almost 100% certain we came in on platform 3 at Lisburn (although it is 20 years ago) and the 11:05 Derry > Belfast came in on 2. There was no requirement to move anyone on to Moira because almost nobody was on the train. Perhaps Martin Baumann et al on the Yahoo group can shed some light on the exact incident.

4SRKT, I am shocked. There is a very important loco class you have left out on your signature.

Hint, the last time you travelled behind one was almost exactly a year ago.

Sorry, it should read travelled on this year....... Hopefully I can put this right on September 9th.

If it had everything I'd ever used it would run out of characters! And there would be some ambiguity about what Irish Rail 201 class actually meant!

 

[102 fan]

It's an absolute beast of a pic isn't it? My pride and joy. I couldn't believe what happened that day during what I expected to be a mudane 25 minute connection between the 14:40 Derry > Belfast and 17:00 Belfast > Dublin. I found it about a year ago in an envelope with a couple of hundred other shots from that era. Happy days!

Although 101's last passenger turn was the following day, later in the year (November) I got haulage off it for about 3/4 mile when no 4 on an RPSI stock movement from Whitehead to Central failed between Knockmore and Lisburn. Eventually 101 was despatched from Central Services to rescue us, by this time freezing almost to death in the unheated stock. The train was caped at Lisburn and we caught an 80 class on the Sunday morning Derry > Belfast (11:05 off Derry IIRR) back to Botanic, which had itself been delayed by no 4's shenanigans.

It's one of the best Hunslet Pics I've seen!

 

[K9-70]

Breaking news is that 94 had a serious failure yesterday (blown turbocharger). This doesn't look great folks. 90 won't be let out on its own as it also fails pretty frequently.

Hopefully it can be sorted out but OTOH NIR may just shorten the Newry 6-car set early to free up a C3K. The first C4K can't be far off entering service either.

It was not 8094 that failed, it was 8090 that failed at Clipperstown.

See link below
http://www.youtube.com/user/nirtrainman?blend=9&ob=5#p/a/u/0/Q7A-TLF2jYY

8069 is now paired with 8094, but it is unknown if the 80 has worked a service train yet.

K9-70

 

[102 fan]

might get one preserved yet!

http://irnirishrailwaynews.yuku.com/topic/2265/Re-Recent-IRRS-80-class-Tour?page=-1

 

[K9-70]

8111 & 112 top & tailed seven withdrawn 80 Class railcars to Ballymeana today 05-06-2011.
Then 8111 & 112 doubleheaded back from Ballymeana to York Rd.

 

[Chester025]

So I take it the 80s are all over then? Looks like I went over just in time!

 

[K9-70]

So I take it the 80s are all over then? Looks like I went over just in time!

There's still one set at York Rd, 8090 + two trailers + 8094, 8069 spare and 8097 converted to sandite, but has a blown engine.
If my information is correct, the sandite equipment will be removed from 8097 and transplanted into a withdrawn 450 Class Demu at a later date.
So there will still be one thumper running around for some time to come.

The 80 Class railcars that went to Ballymeana (8089, 8754, 8082, 8733, 8738, 8747, 8093) for (storage/scrapping) today, have various defects.

K9-70

 

[I T S]

To date, I believe that 90 has a blown turbo while 69 has defective traction motors. As mentioned above 97 is sandite which is for a 450 at a later date. Unconfirmed but 451 is currently stripped at York Road... I say no more

 

[electra27000]

To date, I believe that 90 has a blown turbo while 69 has defective traction motors. As mentioned above 97 is sandite which is for a 450 at a later date. Unconfirmed but 451 is currently stripped at York Road... I say no more

A posting on the Irish Railway News forums indicates 69 has been repaired and both it and 94 have been out and about in service today.