Loco Hauled Travel

[theblackwatch]

Those of use who have been around in the hobby for quite a while will no doubt remember the 'Loco-Hauled Travel' and 'Diagram Diary' books published by Platform 5 and Metro Enterprises in the 1980s and 1990s. For those who aren't familiar with the books, they detailed loco diagrams for all classes, and later editions also included headcode listings. (HSTs were excluded for the first 10 years or so - for a start, they were officially classified as units until around 1987, secondly very few people were interested in them and most tended to avoid them, and thirdly, the all-line timetable recorded which trains were HSTs in it.)

The recent threads on diagrams made me wonder how many people would actually consider buying such a publication nowadays if it existed, perhaps even one including units given that there seems to be a growing interest in people actively going to travel on them. Or do people nowadays have an expectation that all 'gen' should be provided for free?

Before anyone asks, I am not considering producing such a book! I'm just interested in people's thoughts.

 

[Aictos]

Those of use who have been around in the hobby for quite a while will no doubt remember the 'Loco-Hauled Travel' and 'Diagram Diary' books published by Platform 5 and Metro Enterprises in the 1980s and 1990s. For those who aren't familiar with the books, they detailed loco diagrams for all classes, and later editions also included headcode listings. (HSTs were excluded for the first 10 years or so - for a start, they were officially classified as units until around 1987, secondly very few people were interested in them and most tended to avoid them, and thirdly, the all-line timetable recorded which trains were HSTs in it.)

The recent threads on diagrams made me wonder how many people would actually consider buying such a publication nowadays if it existed, perhaps even one including units given that there seems to be a growing interest in people actively going to travel on them. Or do people nowadays have an expectation that all 'gen' should be provided for free?

Before anyone asks, I am not considering producing such a book! I'm just interested in people's thoughts.

Yes such a publication would be interesting but with the number of loco hauled trains now compared to say 1991 or even 1998, is it really going to be financially viable?

Now as www.thejunction.org.uk already has something similar set up, if it isn't going to be financially viable to produce a publication then all efforts should be made to allow this site to display these diagrams without requiring membership and keeping them there for reference purposes.

 

[142094]

Think you've touched on the problem - these days it is quite easy to have a look around the net and find diagrams or sightings, so I bet some would feel aggreived if they had to shell out a few quid for them.

When you think how high-tech trainspotting is now it really does make you think of the progress made with technology in the last few years!

 

[Moog_1984]

Yes such a publication would be interesting but with the number of loco hauled trains now compared to say 1991 or even 1998, is it really going to be financially viable?

Now as www.thejunction.org.uk already has something similar set up, if it isn't going to be financially viable to produce a publication then all efforts should be made to allow this site to display these diagrams without requiring membership and keeping them there for reference purposes.

With the internet and XML, nope!

It actually had a headcode as its title which went up each year with accompanying photo of loco bearing it "1H85" was the last I bought and I defo' have it somewhere

Oh happy days!!!

 

[tbtc]

When you think how high-tech trainspotting is now it really does make you think of the progress made with technology in the last few years!

Its amazing how far we have come.

I think that the only way that you could get a "book" like the one suggested in the OP to work would be to aim it at the older enthusiast and make it a fairly "bespoke" publication.

My dad isn't online, so he relies on getting his gen from the press (he buys a lot of magazines each month...) - there is still a generation of enthusiasts out there who aren't online so can't easily find this kind of information out.

There is a bigger problem here which all newspapers/ magazines (etc) are going to have to deal with - why pay money for information which is available for free online?

 

[Rhydgaled]

these days it is quite easy to have a look around the net and find diagrams

You can find diagrams on the net??!?!?!?!? I know the 125 group has IC125 diagrams on their website, but I requested ATW's diagrams via my AM and we were told they are commertially confidential. In what way are rolling stock diagrams commertially sensitive?

 

[theblackwatch]

With the internet and XML, nope!

It actually had a headcode as its title which went up each year with accompanying photo of loco bearing it "1H85" was the last I bought and I defo' have it somewhere

Oh happy days!!!

The '1Hxx' series of books were different series produced by Peter Watts Publishing.

And judging by the number of requests on here, quite a lot of diagrams appear not to be on the interenet - or people don't know where or how to find them!

 

[Minilad]

I am not to bothered about diagrams. But if I remember correctly those books just showed a list of loco hauled services from major stations.
Maybe a list of classes and a then a list of what services are operated by those classes would be useful

 

[4SRKT]

I am not to bothered about diagrams. But if I remember correctly those books just showed a list of loco hauled services from major stations.
Maybe a list of classes and a then a list of what services are operated by those classes would be useful

If it's restricted to loco-hauled services this would just about fit on a cigarette paper, never mind needing a book!

 

[Minilad]

If it's restricted to loco-hauled services this would just about fit on a cigarette paper, never mind needing a book!

Well I think most enthusiasts would already know the handful of loco hauled services. But a rundown of units and what routes you could find them on would be useful I reckon

 

[theblackwatch]

If it's restricted to loco-hauled services this would just about fit on a cigarette paper, never mind needing a book!

I guess it depends on whether you count HSTs as locos - but I'm opening another can of worms with that one.

 

[Freightmaster]

...if I remember correctly those books just showed a list of loco hauled services from major stations.

That was another publication - "CLASS ONE" - which was published
by myself for several years as a companion volume to Freightmaster:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/CLASS-ONE-MARK-RAWLINSON/dp/B000S3ID7G/

(as well as the timetables, there were also loco diagrams for 47s, 86s, etc,
at the back of the book)

...but the end of loco haulage on VXC and VWC meant the book was
no longer viable, so the few remaining diesel-hauled trains were listed
in Freightmaster (they mainly use freight company locos anyway!)
and Class One ceased to be published.

MARK

 

[HSTEd]

You can find diagrams on the net??!?!?!?!? I know the 125 group has IC125 diagrams on their website, but I requested ATW's diagrams via my AM and we were told they are commertially confidential. In what way are rolling stock diagrams commertially sensitive?

They could sell them to people for money.

 

[theblackwatch]

That was another publication - "CLASS ONE" - which was published
by myself for several years as a companion volume to Freightmaster:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/CLASS-ONE-MARK-RAWLINSON/dp/B000S3ID7G/

(as well as the timetables, there were also loco diagrams for 47s, 86s, etc,
at the back of the book)

...but the end of loco haulage on VXC and VWC meant the book was
no longer viable, so the few remaining diesel-hauled trains were listed
in Freightmaster (they mainly use freight company locos anyway!)
and Class One ceased to be published.

MARK

I'd forgotten about your 'Class One' books Mark. Just checked my bookcase and I have 4 editions dating between 1998 and 2002. Was Summer 2002 the last edition to be produced?

 

[AndyLandy]

I guess it depends on whether you count HSTs as locos - but I'm opening another can of worms with that one.

I think it's quite telling how enthusiasts were never big on HSTs in the 70s and 80s when they were new, but nowadays, they have a reverence with a lot of people (I'm a huge HST fan!). I wonder if we'll see something similar with Pendolinos or Javelins in 30-odd years time?

 

[tbtc]

I think it's quite telling how enthusiasts were never big on HSTs in the 70s and 80s when they were new, but nowadays, they have a reverence with a lot of people (I'm a huge HST fan!). I wonder if we'll see something similar with Pendolinos or Javelins in 30-odd years time?

I agree with you - the (brand new) HSTs were bad for killing off the beloved Deltics, but then the (brand new) Deltics were bad for killing off Steam on the ECML...

 

[Moog_1984]

The '1Hxx' series of books were different series produced by Peter Watts Publishing.

And judging by the number of requests on here, quite a lot of diagrams appear not to be on the interenet - or people don't know where or how to find them!

By 1H84 they were in Platform 5 guise!: did peter watts do "miles and chains"?

Once they start de-engining 156s/58s and making them up as rakes of loco hauled stock with actual passenger capacity, we may need 1H20!

 

[theblackwatch]

By 1H84 they were in Platform 5 guise!: did peter watts do "miles and chains"?

Once they start de-engining 156s/58s and making them up as rakes of loco hauled stock with actual passenger capacity, we may need 1H20!

1H84 was definately not a Platform 5 publication - see http://www.magictrick.freeserve.co.uk/publications.htm

Peter Watts did 'Mile by Mile' (written by David Maxey). The 'Miles & Chains' pocket books were produced by Geoff Hurst of Milepost Publications.

 

[Minilad]

I would love to see a printed list of accurate mileages. I sort of remember the miles and chains book. I wonder if anyone would publish that sort of info.

 

[theblackwatch]

I would love to see a printed list of accurate mileages. I sort of remember the miles and chains book. I wonder if anyone would publish that sort of info.

The Quail maps have them in if you want a printed version. A reprint of the 'Mile by Mile' book is still available as far as I know (in softback) - unfortunately, being about 20 years old it does have new stations/lines missing.

 

[Minilad]

The Quail maps have them in if you want a printed version. A reprint of the 'Mile by Mile' book is still available as far as I know (in softback) - unfortunately, being about 20 years old it does have new stations/lines missing.

I have Quail maps. I was thinking more of a table of accurate mileages either by route by franchise or by NRT table number perhaps.
I have done my own but they area bit out of date now

 

[Freightmaster]

I'd forgotten about your 'Class One' books Mark. Just checked my bookcase and I have 4 editions dating between 1998 and 2002. Was Summer 2002 the last edition to be produced?

In printed form, yes.

I soldiered on with an online version until Winter 2004,
but even without the overheads of printing a book,
that too eventually proved unsustainable due to lack
of interest... .:cry:

Going back to loco diagrams, as recently as March 2003,
there were still a large number of class 87 workings on the WCML:

 Loco One:
[5A28	07:52 Oxley CMD       - Wolverhampton]
 1A28	08.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G24	11.15 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
 1A57	13.15 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
 1G33	15.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G33	17:48 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A09	18:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A09	18.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
[5A09	21:09 Euston          - Euston c.s.]
[5G46	23:03 Euston c.s.     - Euston]
 1G46	23.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G46	02:37 Wolverhampton   - Oxley CMD]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Loco Two:
[5A10	06:04 Oxley CMD       - Wolverhampton]
 1A10	06.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G20	09.15 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
 1A43	11.15 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
 1G53	13.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G53	15:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A81	16:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A81	16.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1H33	19.10 Euston          - Manchester {via Birmingham}
[5H33	22:55 Manchester Picc.- Longsight CMD]

 Loco Three:
[5A24	05:06 Longsight CMD   - Manchester Picc.]
 1A24	06.22 Manchester Picc.- Euston {via Birmingham}
 1G23	10.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G25	12:52 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A60	13:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A60	13.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G34	16.15 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
 1A00	18.15 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
 1G43	20.40 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G43	23:02 Wolverhampton   - Oxley CMD]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Loco Four:
[5A19	07:04 Oxley CMD       - Wolverhampton]
 1A19	07.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G22	10.15 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
 1A50	12.15 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
 1G31	14.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G31	16:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A85	17:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A85	17.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
[5A85	19:58 Euston          - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Five:
[5G16	06:00 Wembley CMD     - Euston]
 1G16	07.15 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
 1A30	09.15 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
 1G52	11.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G52	13:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A67	14:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A67	14.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G37	17.10 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G37	19:26 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A19	19:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A19	20.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
[5A19	23:18 Euston          - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Six:
[5A00	06:35 Wembley CMD     - Euston]

        {spare at Euston}

[5G13	18:44 Euston          - Wembley CMD]
[5G47	20:10 Wembley CMD     - Euston]
 1G47	21.20 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G47	23:44 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]

 Loco Seven:
[5A16	06:31 Oxley CMD       - Birmingham N.S.]
 1A16	07.33 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
[5A16	09:39 Euston          - Wembley CMD]
[5C20	14:13 Wembley CMD     - Euston]
 1C20	15.30 Euston          - Carlisle
[5N20	20:04 Carlisle        - Preston]

 Loco Eight:
[5A15	04:20 Preston	      - Lancaster]
 1A15	05.18 Lancaster       - Euston
 1G51	09.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G51	11:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A54	12:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A54	12.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G32	15.15 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
 1A83	17.15 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
 1G42	19.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G42	21:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley CMD]

 Loco Nine:
[5A06	05:25 Oxley CMD       - Wolverhampton]
 1A06	05.49 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G19	08.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G19	10:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A46	11:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A46	11.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G30	14.15 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
 1A76	16.15 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
 1G40	18.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G40	20:50 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A23	21:16 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A23	21.31 Wolverhampton   - Euston
[5A23	00:45 Euston          - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Ten:
[5F12	06:08 Wembey CMD      - Euston]
 1F12	08.10 Euston          - Liverpool
 1A55	11.32 Liverpool       - Euston
 1F20	16.00 Euston          - Liverpool
 1A21	19.32 Liverpool       - Euston
[5A21	23:38 Euston          - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Eleven:
[5G15	05:30 Wembley CMD     - Euston]
 1G15	06.40 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G15	08:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A34	09:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A34	09.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G26	12.15 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
 1A63	14.15 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
 1G36	16.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G37	18:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A15	19:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A15	19.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G45	22.50 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G45	01:41 Wolverhampton   - Oxley CMD]

 Loco Twelve*:
[5A09	05:53 Oxley CMD       - Wolverhampton]
 1A09	06.05 Wolverhampton   - Euston
[5G09	08:51 Euston          - Wembley CMD]
[5G35	15:40 Wembley CMD     - Euston]
 1G35	16.35 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
[5G35	18:29 Birmingham N.S. - Oxley CMD]

(* This diagram is a Pendolino on **Tuesdays**)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Loco Thirteen:
[5A02	04:40 Oxley CMD       - Wolverhampton]
 1A02	04.56 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G50	07.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G50	09:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A40	10:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A40	10.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G29	13.15 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
 1A70	15.15 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
 1G55	17.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G55	19:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley CMD]

 Loco Fourteen:
[5A03	04:58 Oxley CMD       - Wolverhampton]
 1A03	05.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G18	08.15 Euston          - Birmingham N.S.
 1A37	10.15 Birmingham N.S. - Euston
 1G28	12.45 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G28	14:49 Wolverhampton   - Oxley c.s.]
[5A72	10:06 Oxley c.s.      - Wolverhampton]
 1A72	15.19 Wolverhampton   - Euston
 1G39	18.10 Euston          - Wolverhampton
[5G39	20:17 Wolverhampton   - Oxley CMD]

...but the class 90s dominated:

 Loco One:
[5A17	05:32 Longsight CMD    - Manchester Picc.]
 1A17	06.37 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1H10	10.00 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
[5H10	13:05 Manchester Picc. - Longsight c.s.]
[5A74	14:05 Longsight c.s.   - Manchester Picc.]
 1A74	14.53 Manchester Picc. - Euston {via Crewe}
 1H27	18.25 Euston           - Manchester Picc. {via Crewe}
[5H27	21:28 Manchester Picc. - Longsight CMD]
   
 Loco Two:
[5A20	06:06 Longsight CMD    - Manchester Picc.]
 1A20	06.58 Manchester Picc. - Euston  {via Crewe} 
   (### 1A20 is a Pendolino on **Wednesdays and Thursdays** ###)
 1C15	11.25 Euston           - Lancaster
[5C15	14:52 Lancaster        - Carnforth UGL]
[5A87	15:14 Carnforth UGL    - Lancaster]
 1A87	15.28 Lancaster        - Euston
 1P08	20.38 Euston           - Preston

 Loco Three:
 1A21	06.53 Preston          - Euston
[5A21	10:23 Euston           - Wembley CMD]
[5H22	14:40 Wembley CMD      - Euston]
 1H22	15.55 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A18	19.28 Manchester Picc. - Euston
[5A18	23:02 Euston           - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Four:
[5P01	06:18 Wembley CMD      - Euston]
 1P01	07.30 Euston           - Preston
 1A52	11.20 Preston          - Euston
[5A52	14:45 Euston           - Wembley CMD]
[5H24	15:37 Wembley CMD      - Euston]
 1H24	16.55 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A22	20.14 Manchester Picc. - Euston
[5A22	00:05 Euston           - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Five:
[5H06	06:30 Wembley CMD      - Euston]
 1H06	08.00 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A51	11.27 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1H20	15.00 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A14	18.28 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1G44	21.40 Euston           - Wolverhampton
[5G44	00:30 Wolverhampton    - Oxley CMD]

 Loco Six:
[5A14	06:34 Oxley CMD        - Wolverhampton]
 1A14	06.49 Wolverhampton    - Euston
 1P02	09.30 Euston           - Preston
 1A64	13.20 Preston          - Euston
 1F21	17.00 Euston           - Liverpool
[5F21	20:27 Liverpool        - Edge Hill c.s.]

 Loco Seven:
[5A18	04:55 Edge Hill c.s.   - Liverpool
 1A18	06.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1F14	10.10 Euston           - Liverpool
 1A68	13.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1H25	17.16 Euston           - Manchester Picc. {via Crewe}
[5H25	20:24 Manchester Picc. - Longsight c.s.]

 Loco Eight:
[5A26	06:50 Longsight CMD    - Manchester Picc.]
 1A26	07.28 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1H12	11.00 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A71	14.27 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1H26	17.55 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
[5H26	21:03 Manchester Picc. - Longsight CMD]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 Loco Nine:
[5A05	03:38 Longsight CMD    - Manchester Picc.]
 1A05	04.32 Manchester Picc. - Euston {via Crewe}
 1H08	09.00 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A58	12.27 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1H23	16.20 Euston           - Manchester Picc. {via Crewe}
   (### 1H23 is a Pendolino on **Wednesdays and Thursdays** ###)
 1A01	21.15 Manchester Picc. - Euston {via Birmingham}
[5A01	02:00 Euston           - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Ten:
[5S55	06:30 Wembley CMD      - Euston]
 1S55	08.30 Euston           - Glasgow
 1M31	15.36 Glasgow          - Euston
[5M31	21:45 Euston           - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Eleven:
[5S47	04:05 Wembley CMD      - Euston]
 1S47	06.20 Euston           - Glasgow
 1M28	13.40 Glasgow          - Euston
 1F24	20.00 Euston           - Liverpool
[5F24	23:24 Liverpool        - Edge Hill c.s.]

 Loco Twelve:
[5A35	07:50 Edge Hill c.s.   - Liverpool
 1A35	08.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1F17	13.10 Euston           - Liverpool
 1A86	16.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1F25	21.00 Euston           - Liverpool
[5F25	00:41 Liverpool        - Edge Hill c.s.]

 Loco Thirteen:
[5A41	08:50 Edge Hill c.s.   - Liverpool
 1A41	09.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1F18	14.10 Euston           - Liverpool
 1A12	17.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1H00	22.00 Euston           - Manchester Picc. {via Crewe}
[5H00	01:52 Manchester Picc. - Longsight CMD]

 Loco Fourteen:
[5A31	07:45 Longsight CMD    - Manchester Picc.]
 1A31	08.27 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1H14	12.00 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A78	15.27 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1F23	19:00 Euston           - Liverpool
[5F23	22:15 Liverpool        - Edge Hill c.s.]

 Loco Fifteen:
[5A27	06:28 Edge Hill c.s.   - Liverpool
 1A27	07.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1F16	12.10 Euston           - Liverpool
 1A82	15.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1C25	19.25 Euston           - Carlisle

 Loco Sixteen:
 1A25	05.32 Carlisle         - Euston
 1F15	11.10 Euston           - Liverpool
 1A73	14.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1P05	18.35 Euston           - Preston
[5H05	22:28[FX] Preston      - Longsight CMD]
(5H05 is diesel-hauled by the Preston 'Thunderbird')

 Loco Seventeen:
[5A13	04:57 Longsight CMD    - Manchester Picc.]
 1A13	05.57 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1H09	09.35 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A64	13.27 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1F22	18:00 Euston           - Liverpool
[5F22	21:05 Liverpool        - Edge Hill c.s.]

 Loco Eighteen:
[5A11	04:50 Edge Hill c.s.   - Liverpool
 1A11	05.45 Liverpool        - Euston
 1S57	10.30 Euston           - Glasgow
[5S57	15:52 Glasgow          - Polmadie CMD]
[5M34	16:16 Polmadie CMD     - Glasgow]
 1M34	16.50 Glasgow          - Euston
[5M34	23:12 Euston           - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Nineteen:
[5F13	07:40 Wembley CMD      - Euston]
 1F13	09.10 Euston           - Liverpool
 1A71	12.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1S90	17.30 Euston           - Glasgow
[5S90	23:20 Glasgow          - Polmadie CMD]

 Loco Twenty:
[5D84	09:22 Polmadie CMD     - Carstairs]
 1D84	10.09 Carstairs        - Glasgow
 1M25	11.48 Glasgow          - Euston
 1S94	17.30 Euston           - Glasgow
[5S94	00:26 Glasgow          - Polmadie CMD]

 Loco Twenty One:
[5M22	08:40 Polmadie CMD     - Glasgow]
 1M22	09.36 Glasgow          - Euston
 1S86	16.30 Euston           - Glasgow
[5S86	22:30 Glasgow          - Polmadie CMD]

 Loco Twenty Two:
[5M18	06:15 Polmadie CMD     - Glasgow]
 1M18	07.20 Glasgow          - Euston
 1H18	13.55 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A06	17.27 Manchester Picc. - Euston
[5A06	20:45 Euston           - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Twenty Three:
[5F11	05:23 Wembley CMD      - Euston]
 1F11	07.10 Euston           - Liverpool
 1A47	10.32 Liverpool        - Euston
 1F19	15.10 Euston           - Liverpool
 1A16	18.32 Liverpool        - Euston
[5A16	22:38 Euston           - Wembley CMD]


 Loco Twenty Four:
{Maintenance spare at Wembley}


 Loco Twenty Five:
[5H04	04:38 Wembley CMD      - Euston]
 1H04	06.00 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A38	09.27 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1H16	13.00 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A84	16.27 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1H30	19.55 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
[5H30	23:03 Manchester Picc. - Longsight CMD]

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 Loco Twenty Six:
[5M08	05:20 Polmadie CMD     - Glasgow]
 1M08	06.10 Glasgow          - Euston
 1P04	13.25 Euston           - Preston
 1A07	17.20 Preston          - Euston
[5A07	21:06 Euston           - Wembley CMD]

 Loco Twenty Seven:
[5H05	04:50 Wembley CMD      - Euston]
 1H05	06.55 Euston           - Manchester Picc.
 1A44	10.27 Manchester Picc. - Euston
 1S83	14.30 Euston           - Glasgow
[5S83	20:09 Glasgow          - Polmadie CMD]

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 Loco Twenty Eight:
[5M25	23:22 Polmadie CMD     - Carlisle]
 1A32	06.40 Glasgow          - Euston
 1S75	12.30 Euston           - Glasgow
[5S75	18:08 Glasgow          - Polmadie CMD]

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 Loco Twenty Nine:
{Maintenance spare at Longsight Monday to Thursday}

[5A89	16:28[FO] Longsight CMD    - Manchester Picc.]
 1A89	16.52[FO] Manchester Picc. - Euston {via Crewe}
[5A89	20:27[FO] Euston           - Wembley CMD]

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 Loco Thirty:
{Maintenance spare at Polmadie Monday to Thursday}

[5M57	18:11[FO] Polmadie CMD     - Wembley CMD]

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