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CrossCountry Voyager 'refresh'

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Reading a publication recently I saw a picture of the CrossCountry Voyager refresh which includes a new red/maroon seat moquette in First Class, and an identical replacement of carpet and seat coverings in Standard.

Further to this thread:
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=49893&highlight=voyager+refresh
does anyone know what unit(s) complete so far, and how long the work will take?
 
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I think voyagers are getting door modIfIcatIons as well

Something like automatically shutting etc.
 

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I think voyagers are getting door modIfIcatIons as well

Something like automatically shutting etc.

Could probably do with having a look at the internal doors so they don't cut you in half if you are stood in the doorway... :lol:
 

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Surely that just makes every journey that bit more of a challenge?
 

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This refurb is so pointless. I can only assume there's an abundance of red/blue material at Central Rivers.

It's totally mad that the Meridian fleet has been completely overhauled (despite being fine before) and yet the Voyagers soldier on with their original scheme - which really isn't comfortable on anything but an empty Voyager.
 

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The Meridians did need going, the material of the original seats wasn't good, and it was getting very worn. It is not uncommon to see a 222 with threadbare seats going around, so they did need it :)
 

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Could probably do with having a look at the internal doors so they don't cut you in half if you are stood in the doorway... :lol:

A firm push with the shoulders soon returns them to their open status.

The trouble is that the "open" button becomes near enough invisible when you are queueing close to them.
 

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They should have their interiors ripped out and have the Meridian interior fitted. This would be a great improvement. I realise that this would probably be too costly.
 

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the 222s greater interior volume is due to more equipment being relocated under the floor to free up space for passengers, that would be insanely expensive to do to existing rolling stock.
 

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Mojo - to my knowledge the following units have been done:

220001/007/008/010/012/015/018/020/022; amongst a few others.

aswell as 221135
 

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Not changing the colours in Standard is apparently something to do with DDA regs - that there must be a contrast between the grab handles and the seat itself or something like that.
 

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EMT have orange grab handles and bright red seating - hardly contrasts! Similarly Northern have lilac handles on Purple seating.
 

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Could probably do with having a look at the internal doors so they don't cut you in half if you are stood in the doorway... :lol:

Can they please add foot-operated opening buttons for internal doors like the 222s have, so much easier when you have your hands full.
 

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I personally prefer the layout and seating in refurbished EMT HSTs, but I don't think many people like the seats.
 

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17th December
UK: CrossCountry has awarded Nomad Digital a contract to install wi-fi on its five HST sets and 57 Bombardier Voyager DEMUs.

Appearing as a news snippet in larger European rolling stock news.
Sent me looking for orginal press release which is older, 4th November

CrossCountry announced yesterday it has signed a contract to install Wi-Fi on its long distance high-speed trains.

After an extensive search for the best and most appropriate system to meet its customers’ needs, the contract has been awarded to the experienced global supplier of on-train Wi-Fi solutions, Nomad Digital.

Work to install the system will begin early next year, with the five High Speed Trains (HSTs) being the first to be fully fitted by the spring. The larger fleet of 57 Voyager trains will also be fitted out during 2012.

Commenting, CrossCountry’s managing director, Andy Cooper, said: “I am delighted we have been able to find the best Wi-Fi system to meet the challenges of delivering consistent service on our trains as they travel across Britain. Despite the growing availability of 3G for personal communications we are satisfied that mobile broadband adds value to our customers’ journeys.

CrossCountry customers will soon be able to enjoy the benefits of online connectivity when on our trains. The ability for our business and leisure customers to send and receive emails and browse the internet while on the move will further strengthen rail’s competitive advantage over using a car.”

Nomad’s CEO, Alexander Eriksen added “We are thrilled to have been selected as the Wi-Fi provider by such a prestigious company as CrossCountry, and look forward to working with them to deliver a first class service to their passengers.”

CrossCountry has been conducting a trial of different Wi-Fi systems throughout 2011 to ensure that the best system was chosen. The unique characteristics of CrossCountry services, which travel from West Cornwall to North Scotland and the South Coast to the North West, meant the chosen system had to deliver reliable connectivity for customers on their journeys. Nomad Digital was able to demonstrate they could deliver the best system to achieve this.

http://www.uknomad.com/press-cross-country-award-nomad-contract-to-install-wifi-details-128.html
 

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Is there a reason for the airline seats you find in a voyager/pendo?

I find the interior of an EMT HST much preferable. It's light, airy and open, and much more friendly a atmosphere than being cramped in a claustraphobia inducing hole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EMT_Refurbished_TS_Internal.JPG
http://www.railphotolibrary.com/Details.aspx?ID=259&TypeID=1

More seats per carriage meaning more revenue I would guess. Voyager seats are higher backed than the EMT ones too, which does make a big difference to the feel of the carriage. The difference is well highlighted in the set that EC have on loan from EMT. This has a carriage that's 75% as your photo and 25% high back blue seats and the difference is surprising.
 

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Refresh? They need a heavy refurb starting with new deeper overhead luggage racks.

This does seem a stupid question but if the pantograph thing does go ahead will this eliminate the underfloor engine noise and make them sound more 390 like going through the electric sections?
 

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Refresh? They need a heavy refurb starting with new deeper overhead luggage racks.

This does seem a stupid question but if the pantograph thing does go ahead will this eliminate the underfloor engine noise and make them sound more 390 like going through the electric sections?


Refresh... Said refresh shold be undertaken at Booths!
 

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This does seem a stupid question but if the pantograph thing does go ahead will this eliminate the underfloor engine noise and make them sound more 390 like going through the electric sections?

The engines will be shut down so therefore quieter / different sound.

The challenge will be getting the engines to start when you require them.
 
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